Goodbye Delray

[kraig]

I hope everyone is noticing that now that it's time for the money to get spent the meetings aren't taking place on the Southwest Side.

So, they come to us so that we can block Matty Moroun. They come to us to garner support for a publicly financed bridge [[financed not owned, it will be sold to some group just like the toll road in Illinois sooner rather than later) even though there is zero ownership for the City of Detroit. In fact, the City of Detroit's primary role in all of this will be to block Matty Moroun and kick all of the businesses and residents out of the Delray area, and that's it. But, they don't come to us when the opportunity to make money is discussed.

Everyone needs to pay very close attention to what getting used by politicians looks like. I bet you the Southwest Detroit Business Association [[you know the group that finances the campaigns of Toboccman and Tlaib) are going to get a piece of the pie.







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[rb336]

there are still residences and businesses in delray?

sorry, I know there are, but that is one area where the residents would benefit from getting bought out

[Andrew in Windsor]

How would they benefit if they are given "fair market value"? Where could you move to with a check for $10 or $15k?

[edw]

Where could you move to with a check for $10 or $15k?

just about anywhere else in the city.

[gumby]

How would they benefit if they are given "fair market value"? Where could you move to with a check for $10 or $15k?

Well they could move to many of the other crappy neighborhoods in Detroit where houses go for under $1000. Look I love Detroit as much as the next guy but lets face it Delray is a cesspool and there are many other cesspools in the city with just as cheap housing.

Hell I live in probably the best neighborhood in Flint [[College/Cultural) and my grandparents still managed to get the house next door to mine for $30,000.

[kraig]

there are still residences and businesses in delray?

sorry, I know there are, but that is one area where the residents would benefit from getting bought out

No they won't. Eminent Domain does not work well in Detroit, it never has. They're not going to get the assessed value, they're going to get the amount the homes were bought for 20-30 years ago. Which won't be enough to buy a new home and a lot of the residents are too old and don't have the income to take out 30 year mortgages. They're done, no one in authority is going to look out for them. Maryann Mahaffey probably would have were she still alive, but no one on this City Council will. They see the DRIC as a good thing simply because it messes with Matty Maroun, but two wrongs don't make a right.

Joann Watson and Barbara Rose-Collins should be very happy and proud of themselves. They've wanted another Paradise Valley and they're going to get it in a manner of speaking. The same way Paradise Valley was torn apart for the freeways and the people were thrown out of the area, Delray will be torn apart and the people will be thrown out.

Onward Christian Soldiers, yeah right.

[rb336]

No they won't. Eminent Domain does not work well in Detroit, it never has. They're not going to get the assessed value, they're going to get the amount the homes were bought for 20-30 years ago. .

and what, exactly, is a house in delray going for these days?

[kraig]

and what, exactly, is a house in delray going for these days?

More than they're going to get. If you ever have the opportunity, talk to someone that lived in Poletown or Graimark [[now Jefferson Village) areas. They'll give you an earful.

[rb336]

More than they're going to get. If you ever have the opportunity, talk to someone that lived in Poletown or Graimark [[now Jefferson Village) areas. They'll give you an earful.

Those were much more vibrant communities at the time

[Gistok]

I'm not thrilled about another neighborhood [[Delray) being torn up for a publicly financed bridge... no matter how crappy we think Delray is. After all there are folks living there. [[It's always easier with it involves disrupting other people rather than ourselves.)

But I wonder how much the "public" bridge will end up costing the taxpayers. For some reason when the government is involved in things... prices go up.

And here's a thought... what if Maroun tells potential buyers of the bonds needed for this new bridge that he will undercut the price of crossing his own bridge [[to stay competetive), even if it means pricing it below the lowest point where a return to the bondholders of the new bridge is possible.

Couldn't that keep potential buyers of new bridge bonds away?

I do believe that there are many things that Maroun could have up his sleeve to keep a non-Maroun bridge from being built.

[Danny]

Delray is dead! gobbled up by pre and post-industrial waste, turning it into a world's biggest toilet!

[kraig]

I'm not thrilled about another neighborhood [[Delray) being torn up for a publicly financed bridge... no matter how crappy we think Delray is. After all there are folks living there. [[It's always easier with it involves disrupting other people rather than ourselves.)

But I wonder how much the "public" bridge will end up costing the taxpayers. For some reason when the government is involved in things... prices go up.

And here's a thought... what if Maroun tells potential buyers of the bonds needed for this new bridge that he will undercut the price of crossing his own bridge [[to stay competetive), even if it means pricing it below the lowest point where a return to the bondholders of the new bridge is possible.

Couldn't that keep potential buyers of new bridge bonds away?

I do believe that there are many things that Maroun could have up his sleeve to keep a non-Maroun bridge from being built.

The study for the DRIC already cost us 35 million. And if it's ever audited they'll never be able to justify the cost. But, if you really want to see something funny, watch the City Planning Commission Director and staff anytime the DRIC is brought up by Council. They never give Council real information on the DRIC and will immediately mention the Ambassador Bridge. It's like a word association exercise.

CC Question: What's the environmental impact of the DRIC project?

CPC Answer: The Coast Guard has some questions about the Ambassador Bridge.

[LodgeDodger]

there are still residences and businesses in delray?

sorry, I know there are, but that is one area where the residents would benefit from getting bought out

Hey now, people have their homes there! A place a person calls home is just that, a home.