RACE CARD=Created By Whites

[dosee]

Why does the media always assume the Race Card is played by Blacks?? Clearly Black folks in our nation did not create, invent and invoke the race card like white folks...

From slavery to separate but equal to disparate treatment to profiling..I find it troubling how so many people ignore the orgins of the 'race card"

Why???

[Detroit Stylin]

Simple, because it is much easier to scape goat instead of accepting one's role in something negative. That's not to say that the current group of idiots on the council don't use it enough however...

[cheddar bob]

There's only so many defenses you can use for enslaving a whole group of people, building a whole nation on the backs of their free labor, and then treating them like second class people. Accusing them of using the race card is one.

[Big Dog]

I'm hoping that Obama's presidency will help change this race card crap.

[dosee]

I guess our AG Holder was correct we are a nation of racial cowards... I have recently moved to another Detroit Suburb and I am ovewhelmed sometimes at the level of contempt for Detroit and Black folks .

This region is truly wicked on this issue...Why??

[lilpup]

Slavery has existed forever and still does.

[rb336]

IThis region is truly wicked on this issue...Why??

I suspect it has something to do with the fact that the factories brought huge numbers of African Americans to the area, while simultaneously bringing a huge number of poor European Americans from the deep south up here.

[SideLion]

Because we are 145 years removed from slavery and 40 years removed from segregation. I had nothing to do with either, nor did my family, and for you to lump me in with people that did simply because of the color of my skin makes you as bad as the people responsible for those terrible times. In fact, it probably makes you worse because you have history to learn from and failed to take the lesson.
Expecting me to take the blame for another person's actions is out of line and not going to happen. There are nations with black armies that rape, murder and maime other black men, women, and children. Should I judge you by their actions because of the color of your skin and the title, "African-American", even though you have no relation to those responsible? Should I play the "rapist/murderer" card on you because you happen to be black like those people, or would you rather I judge on on YOUR actions?

[Jal1012]

Because we are 145 years removed from slavery and 40 years removed from segregation. I had nothing to do with either, nor did my family, and for you to lump me in with people that did simply because of the color of my skin makes you as bad as the people responsible for those terrible times. In fact, it probably makes you worse because you have history to learn from and failed to take the lesson.
Expecting me to take the blame for another person's actions is out of line and not going to happen. There are nations with black armies that rape, murder and maime other black men, women, and children. Should I judge you by their actions because of the color of your skin and the title, "African-American", even though you have no relation to those responsible? Should I play the "rapist/murderer" card on you because you happen to be black like those people, or would you rather I judge on on YOUR actions?

Great point. At the same time consider this point of view: Black men and Black women as a whole are demonized and marginalized because of poor media images that misrepresent the true collective nature of the Black American culture. People such as myself, educated, Christian, morally upright, career-minded, and most importantly, family-oriented, get lumped in with a minute minority of women within the Black female culture that choose not to better themselves, are morally and sexually loose, and have no standards/values. The same is true for educated, Christian, morally upright, career-minded, and family-oriented Black men. The guilt by association and the need for a superior-minded race [[i. e. White race) to demonize, marginalize, and ostracize a culture of people so that they can maintain economic, social, and political control within the broader American society. White people have been very methodic in maintaining their economic, social, and political supremacy in the American society. It does not intimidate me. However, for some Blacks it is both intimidating and cripples their ability to fully participate in the greatness that does exist in America.

Just my .02.

[Johnlodge]

Good points also Jal.

Unfortunately, over half of African-American children are raised in a single family home in this country.

http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data...s.aspx?ind=107

This puts them at a significant disadvantage, and perpetuates a permanent underclass. Here in Michigan the numbers are even worse, with 70% of African American children having only one parent in the home. While not impossible to overcome, and certainly there are many very good single parents, it is another hurdle to success for an already burdened segment of society, and in this case it is not something society can easily remedy through policy.

[gibran]

generalization and sterotyping hurts all people and specificly thoes who do not see all as created equally...Social justice is where we should begin and the whole premise is that we RE-CREATE a system that ensure full participation for all...

That will need to have a willingness to understand eachother and show compassion and forgiveness..those who try to protect pwoer ultimately will lose..those that extend it to all will ultimately suceed.

MOP

[dosee]

I am so tired of the excuses from many white folks which is "i was not around 300 years ago yada,yada, yada..

I have a news flash nor was I around 300 years ago yet our nation made legal the ownership of certain property and other business opportunities just for white folks and as such these unearned benefits and privledges still have impact in 2009..

It amazes me how people will worship the sancity of the written words of our US Constitution which was composed centuries ago that still has impact in 2009 and yet out of the same mouth seek to distance the depravity and the impact of jim crow type laws and just bumps in the road ot our nation's twisted past....

Sorry but I am not buying that excuse, deflection or denial....

[detmsp]

I am so tired of the excuses from many white folks which is "i was not around 300 years ago yada,yada, yada..

I have a news flash nor was I around 300 years ago yet our nation made legal the ownership of certain property and other business opportunities just for white folks and as such these unearned benefits and privledges still have impact in 2009..

It amazes me how people will worship the sancity of the written words of our US Constitution which was composed centuries ago that still has impact in 2009 and yet out of the same mouth seek to distance the depravity and the impact of jim crow type laws and just bumps in the road ot our nation's twisted past....

Sorry but I am not buying that excuse, deflection or denial....

what's your point? i get that slavery, segregation, etc all still have an impact on society today, but i can't figure out what you're driving at here. is it that every white person today should feel personally responsible for these laws? is it that white people should be so guilt ridden that they can't say someone like MonCon is playing the race card?

[firstandten]

Because we are 145 years removed from slavery and 40 years removed from segregation. I had nothing to do with either, nor did my family, and for you to lump me in with people that did simply because of the color of my skin makes you as bad as the people responsible for those terrible times. In fact, it probably makes you worse because you have history to learn from and failed to take the lesson.
Expecting me to take the blame for another person's actions is out of line and not going to happen. There are nations with black armies that rape, murder and maime other black men, women, and children. Should I judge you by their actions because of the color of your skin and the title, "African-American", even though you have no relation to those responsible? Should I play the "rapist/murderer" card on you because you happen to be black like those people, or would you rather I judge on on YOUR actions?

In some cultures that believe in blood feuds 145 years means absolutely nothing, its like yesterday, so in some respects you are being held to a similar standard.

Race card , racism means nothing to me on a individual basis but it means everything to me on an institutional basis, and thats where whites has have there advantages in this society. Individual statements of bigotry should be ignored, but most cases of racism in America affect "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happyness" and thats where I have problems. Blacks in very few instances control the institutions that have such an affect on peoples lives that they could be termed racist. Until institutional racism changes you will keep hearing the words race card and racism.

[gibran]

My question is what we are doing as individuals to change the paradigm to bring people together...not continue to rationalize why we "haven't" responisibility...what kind of world do we want our children to inherit? I personally recognize the past sins of humanity ...and work to try not to perpetuate those sins...I feel that one is pervasive and the is prejudice...and it is one of the toughest to overcome..when you have been victimized or perpetuated it by denying it exhists...

[ccbatson]

Check out true conservatives...race is not an issue in their ideology. Makes you wonder about your beloved liberals, doesn't it?

[ccbatson]

Reagan...Romney is closest today.

[4real]

Why does the media always assume the Race Card is played by Blacks??
Why???

Can you point out an example of a major media always blaming blacks for throwing out the race card.

I usually see media NOT publishing the whole truth about all sorts of ilk.

[Omaha]

Sorry that I don't have more time to drop in to DetroitYES more often. And I hope this post doesn't bother anyone by attempting to return to the issue of race and the "race card" topic heading.



First, let me say I’m glad to see this dialog/discussion/rant on the forum. Racism and racial justice are rarely framed in terms that don't inspire agitation and anger...and that is very understandable.



The issue of race in the U.S. has gotten more complicated and nuanced for all sides since the election of President Obama.

There is at least one on this forum who would argue that racism no longer matters because if one black person can become President, no person of color faces any real barriers limiting the achievement of anything he or she wants. That is to say this particular poster is sure that in this great nation the only real limits are our own intelligence, diligence, and dedication to success. I had this very discussion on the old forum with a frequent forum poster who's a conservative Ayn Rand devotee



I choose to disagree with that analysis.


BTW, in my humble opinion, racism just doesn’t apply to white/black issues...nor to just Americans. I’d argue that it was there in some capacity when Portuguese brought Africans back to Europe as slaves in the 1400s. It was there when Columbus, sailing on behalf of the Spanish, decided that Spaniards and all Europeans were superior to those inhabiting the islands that he “discovered.� Europeans have been playing the race card for quite a while.



I believe, racism, most obviously applies to clashes between “whites� and “people of color� where prejudice and power combine to deny humanity and opportunity. Historically, in the U.S., it’s the WASP who has had the power to control the opportunity dispensing institutions of our nation.

Regarding black/white issues, in the U.S., how much has changed in the last 41 years when the National Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders made, what is in my mind, this irrefutable observation?

“What white Americans have never fully understood but what the Negro can never forget—is that white society is deeply implicated in the ghetto. White institutions created it, white institutions maintain it, and white society condones it.�

I’d argue, not enough.

[ccbatson]

Good points. Systemically, it makes sense to support the ideology which holds individual rights [[regardless of race/creed/color) as sacred. Namely, conservatism [[or, perhaps more purely of late...libertarianism, capitalism, and objectivism).