First armed robbery in Birmingham in 30 years

**Zimm** · July-19-10, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by lincoln8740

no... what they will try and say is "see Detroit is not that bad crime happens everywhere!!"

din't you mean "Detroiters commit crimes everywhere"? or perhaps "Everywhere Detroiters go, crimes are committed?"

Bearinabox · July-19-10, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Zimm

din't you mean "Detroiters commit crimes everywhere"? or perhaps "Everywhere Detroiters go, crimes are committed?"

Thank you for proving Iheartthed's point.

**Zimm** · July-19-10, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Bearinabox

Thank you for proving Iheartthed's point.

i posted those as a joke, but in all honesty, former detroiters getting the section 8 handout have moved into my neighborhood recently. those houses now have driveways full of broken down cars, yards full of crap that is never picked up, and lots of kids walking in the middle of the street like they were in the hood. a couple of neighbors have reported small items from their yards going missing, and a young girl [[6 or 7) from one of these houses was reported to the police after going door to door panhandling. while my neighborhood has never been the home of the well-to-do, this sort of thing has never been present until now.

sadly, the stereotypes are based in fact. i grew up and spent most of my life in places where this was not the case-in fact, the stereotypes did not exist. but in the 9 years i've spent in the detroit area, what i thought were backwards, closed-minded stereotypes have proven to be 100% accurate.

Bearinabox · July-19-10, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Zimm

i posted those as a joke, but in all honesty, former detroiters getting the section 8 handout have moved into my neighborhood recently. those houses now have driveways full of broken down cars, yards full of crap that is never picked up, and lots of kids walking in the middle of the street like they were in the hood. a couple of neighbors have reported small items from their yards going missing, and a young girl [[6 or 7) from one of these houses was reported to the police after going door to door panhandling. while my neighborhood has never been the home of the well-to-do, this sort of thing has never been present until now.

sadly, the stereotypes are based in fact. i grew up and spent most of my life in places where this was not the case-in fact, the stereotypes did not exist. but in the 9 years i've spent in the detroit area, what i thought were backwards, closed-minded stereotypes have proven to be 100% accurate.

Thank you for proving Iheartthed's point.

**Johnlodge** · July-19-10, 02:32 PM

**bailey** · July-19-10, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Bearinabox

Thank you for proving Iheartthed's point.

The related a personal anecdote based on his own observations. Is he lying like the bus beat down guy?

Bearinabox · July-19-10, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by bailey

The related a personal anecdote based on his own observations. Is he lying like the bus beat down guy?

He can relate all the personal anecdotes he wants. He should just be aware that when he interprets those anecdotes as supporting evidence for nasty stereotypes about Detroiters, he's proving Iheartthed's point. I think I've made that sufficiently clear to him, and what he does with the information is up to him. I have no idea whether or not he's lying, and don't much care; the truth of the anecdote is completely irrelevant to my point. Also, please show me where I accused "the bus beat down guy" of lying.

**Thames** · July-19-10, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Zimm

i posted those as a joke, but in all honesty, former detroiters getting the section 8 handout have moved into my neighborhood recently. those houses now have driveways full of broken down cars, yards full of crap that is never picked up, and lots of kids walking in the middle of the street like they were in the hood. a couple of neighbors have reported small items from their yards going missing, and a young girl [[6 or 7) from one of these houses was reported to the police after going door to door panhandling. while my neighborhood has never been the home of the well-to-do, this sort of thing has never been present until now.

sadly, the stereotypes are based in fact. i grew up and spent most of my life in places where this was not the case-in fact, the stereotypes did not exist. but in the 9 years i've spent in the detroit area, what i thought were backwards, closed-minded stereotypes have proven to be 100% accurate.

How do you know they are former Detroiters? Honest question.

**Zimm** · July-19-10, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by Thames

How do you know they are former Detroiters? Honest question.

they told me they were.

**iheartthed** · July-19-10, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Zimm

they told me they were.

Did they also tell you they were using section 8?

**Zimm** · July-19-10, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by iheartthed

Did they also tell you they were using section 8?

yep, although it was no surprise to me as the houses with section 8 renters had been posting signs saying "section 8 accepted" for a few months while vacant.

**jt1** · July-19-10, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Zimm

they told me they were.

That's so nice of you to speak to those lower people. You surely are a saint. Do you have as much contempt for them when you speak with them or is it only when you post about them.

**Thames** · July-19-10, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Zimm

they told me they were.

I see.

I understand your frustration with your new neighbors. NOBODY would want to live near the behavior you describe.

I don't have any links to back up my statements, but I am 100% certain there are many reasons for their bad behavior, or even just one, lazy. However, I am also 100% certain, that no where on the list of reasons for bad behavior, is there the reason, "skin color".

From your other words, it seems you haven't always bought into stereotypes, but now is not the time to do it either.

Don't let your bad experience suck you down into the stereotype hole of bullshit.

I could tell you about my experience with my lily white [[long time) neighbor and my new black/formerely Detroit neighbor, but I won't bore you with it, I'm hoping you get my drift.

**Zimm** · July-19-10, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Thames

I see.

I understand your frustration with your new neighbors. NOBODY would want to live near the behavior you describe.

I don't have any links to back up my statements, but I am 100% certain there are many reasons for their bad behavior, or even just one, lazy. However, I am also 100% certain, that no where on the list of reasons for bad behavior, is there the reason, "skin color".

From your other words, it seems you haven't always bought into stereotypes, but now is not the time to do it either.

Don't let your bad experience suck you down into the stereotype hole of bullshit.

I could tell you about my experience with my lily white [[long time) neighbor and my new black/formerely Detroit neighbor, but I won't bore you with it, I'm hoping you get my drift.

i think you have a pretty good take on the message that i am trying to convey.

i've got experiences of my own that i suspect mirror what you're alluding to.

**Detroit Stylin** · July-19-10, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Zimm

i posted those as a joke, but in all honesty, former detroiters getting the section 8 handout have moved into my neighborhood recently. those houses now have driveways full of broken down cars, yards full of crap that is never picked up, and lots of kids walking in the middle of the street like they were in the hood. a couple of neighbors have reported small items from their yards going missing, and a young girl [[6 or 7) from one of these houses was reported to the police after going door to door panhandling. while my neighborhood has never been the home of the well-to-do, this sort of thing has never been present until now.

sadly, the stereotypes are based in fact. i grew up and spent most of my life in places where this was not the case-in fact, the stereotypes did not exist. but in the 9 years i've spent in the detroit area, what i thought were backwards, closed-minded stereotypes have proven to be 100% accurate.

= He's seen one or two people do it now its undeniable proof that millions of Black men women and children are all the same....

**Zimm** · July-19-10, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Detroit Stylin

= He's seen one or two people do it now its undeniable proof that millions of Black men women and children are all the same....

it's as if you didn't even bother to read the entire last paragraph, lamenting how it has taken 9 years of living here to take from the point where i did not have the stereotypes that permeate the region to where i acknowledge them as i live them every day.

these days, it's the one or 2 black people i engage with every day who are unlike the myriad around them that keeps me from lazily applying pre-conceptions to all. it hasn't always been like that, and it's a dam shame. more a result of larger shifts around here the past 40 years than anything else, i suspect. decades of seeing the best and brightest among us leave for greener pastures has left us with a growing percentage of the worst among us.