Could MCS be used again for light rail depot?

[hudkina]

A casino is never too far out of the way. I too think the best bet is to turn it into a casino/hotel. Isn't there an idea floating around to build a few more non-indian casinos around Michigan with the idea that one more would be given to the city of Detroit. I would even give it an Irish theme to go with Corktown.

[casscorridor]

The depot is located in a place where all the lines come together, including the one that goes under the Detroit River into Canada. Having the station anywhere else wouldn't work if there is going to be any connection to Canada, unless it was even further west! The distance from Downtown is not that far, and a inner-city rail connection or even buses could quickly transport people into Downtown and other neighborhoods.

The very point of renovating the depot is to signal a radical change in transportation. We need more people riding rail. There is an effort to build a new bridge to increase trucking, an an effort to build an entire city around the airport, as well as an plan to expand I-94 and I-75, and even there is even a plan to expand the rail tunnel under the river for freight. But almost no attention is given to public transportation. Billions are handed out to super-projects that drain public dollars and lead to little benefit for ordinary people.

What we need is a choice to take public transit, to take a train to instead of driving. To take a high-speed rail instead of flying. We don't really have that choice now. Isn't that what America was suppose to be about? Choices? Then why are there so few choices for transportation? It can't be because no one wants to take it, because studies have shown that people want public transit. The problem is that the transit, at least in metro Detroit is so awful that if you can afford to have a car and drive you probably do, it isn't really a choice for most people who take the bus regularly. We need transit that is so good that people who can afford a car choose the transit over the car. Transit that benifits everyone, instead of being exclusive to those who can afford it, considering cars can cost around eight thousand dollars a years, and the average Detroit income is less than twenty. We do not live in an equitable society, and our transportation system reflects this fact.

[Hermod]

What we need is a choice to take public transit, to take a train to instead of driving. To take a high-speed rail instead of flying. We don't really have that choice now. Isn't that what America was suppose to be about?
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We do not live in an equitable society, and our transportation system reflects this fact.

I want the choice to take a river steamer from Detroit to Port Huron like the old Tashmoo. Why can't I have my choice?

I want to be carried around in a sedan chair by public servants. Why can't I have my choice?

I want the bus to stop at my front door every five minutes and take me quickly to wherever I want to go for a dollar. Why can't I have my choice?.

America is about giving you opportunities, not guarantee that all of your "wants" will be available as choices [[on demand).

[ghettopalmetto]

I want the choice to take a river steamer from Detroit to Port Huron like the old Tashmoo. Why can't I have my choice?

I want to be carried around in a sedan chair by public servants. Why can't I have my choice?

I want the bus to stop at my front door every five minutes and take me quickly to wherever I want to go for a dollar. Why can't I have my choice?.

America is about giving you opportunities, not guarantee that all of your "wants" will be available as choices [[on demand).

I find it pretty sad and disgusting that nations far poorer than the United States--like Poland and Venezuela, and well, pretty much every other civilized nation on earth--can invest in upgrading their rail systems while we treat it as some kind of luxury that we just can't afford.

MDOT spends more money each year cutting the grass in freeway medians than it does to provide its current Amtrak service.

The 1950s are over. Your way doesn't work. Moving on....

[dove-7]

I find it pretty sad and disgusting that nations far poorer than the United States--like Poland and Venezuela, and well, pretty much every other civilized nation on earth--can invest in upgrading their rail systems while we treat it as some kind of luxury that we just can't afford.

MDOT spends more money each year cutting the grass in freeway medians than it does to provide its current Amtrak service.

The 1950s are over. Your way doesn't work. Moving on....

Keep in mind too, those poor areas have a different type of system/government where they make public transit priority numero uno. You try that here and people will be fucking yelling socialism. And with the Big three still in running the show, they're not going to make it easy to make this happen in Detroit. And before even that battle can happen, Detroit has to have what they lost, business and population.

Places that were once smaller that Detroit for several decades now are bigger and have a transit because business has flourished there. San Jose, Ca. San Diego, Phoenix etc.

[casscorridor]

I want the choice to take a river steamer from Detroit to Port Huron like the old Tashmoo. Why can't I have my choice?

I want to be carried around in a sedan chair by public servants. Why can't I have my choice?

I want the bus to stop at my front door every five minutes and take me quickly to wherever I want to go for a dollar. Why can't I have my choice?.

America is about giving you opportunities, not guarantee that all of your "wants" will be available as choices [[on demand).

Well those two examples you used are impractical, and inefficient. I think the point that you are missing is that America gives you the choice of what road you want to drive on, so long as you have a car to drive on it. It gives you the choice of what kind of car you drive, so long as you can afford one. But if you can't afford a car or just don't have one, you are really left out. It isn't about having all possible choices available, it is about not having only once choice. And for most of America, the only form of transit is a private auto. For my Americans, there is no opportunity to take transit, even if they chose to! I don't even really care that much about what kind of transit, just that it is exists and is a realistic alternative to autos. Your examples are not realistic. Alternatives such as buses and trains are. Our government spends billions upon billions of dollars on freeways for private cars to drive on, but gives almost nothing to public transit.

[Hypestyles]

The depot is located in a place where all the lines come together, including the one that goes under the Detroit River into Canada. Having the station anywhere else wouldn't work if there is going to be any connection to Canada, unless it was even further west! The distance from Downtown is not that far, and a inner-city rail connection or even buses could quickly transport people into Downtown and other neighborhoods.

The very point of renovating the depot is to signal a radical change in transportation. We need more people riding rail. There is an effort to build a new bridge to increase trucking, an an effort to build an entire city around the airport, as well as an plan to expand I-94 and I-75, and even there is even a plan to expand the rail tunnel under the river for freight. But almost no attention is given to public transportation. Billions are handed out to super-projects that drain public dollars and lead to little benefit for ordinary people.

What we need is a choice to take public transit, to take a train to instead of driving. To take a high-speed rail instead of flying. We don't really have that choice now. Isn't that what America was suppose to be about? Choices? Then why are there so few choices for transportation? It can't be because no one wants to take it, because studies have shown that people want public transit. The problem is that the transit, at least in metro Detroit is so awful that if you can afford to have a car and drive you probably do, it isn't really a choice for most people who take the bus regularly. We need transit that is so good that people who can afford a car choose the transit over the car. Transit that benifits everyone, instead of being exclusive to those who can afford it, considering cars can cost around eight thousand dollars a years, and the average Detroit income is less than twenty. We do not live in an equitable society, and our transportation system reflects this fact.

the anti-tax absolutists don't want to see improved transit, bus or rail..