Tea Party Illustrated Dictionary and Field Guide

[gibran]

Sorry folks the responsible people who would engage in a healthy debate has left the room ....[[in the teaparty)...what is left is tax evaders, non restrictive gun collectors, angry white men and women and those who think Sarah has a firmer grip on foreign affairs than our elected officials...these people are having rallies in April on purpose folks [[go to OKC someday and see what some now covertly supported)...these are secessionists, these are birthers, these are the modern KKK [[yes...in many counties in OK/AR/TX the KKK has embraced this movement)...these people have pushed out the reformist libertarians....and now the republican party has adopted a position to coop these folks...yes some are misguided good folks ...but like the above posts....STEP up and out front unless it is too late and the genie is out o fthe bottle...

bias [[ hell) just ride by one of the rallies across from hospitals and see them yelling at people whose loved ones are inside...or those whose love ones didn't have insurance and are now worried how to pay for the stay...it was disgusting and I had to stop myself from going over there and yelling back...

You all who find comfort in these folks representing you [[Sarah et al) are being used by Beck and the gang ....of idiots whose anger is fueling these folks all the while driving around the country making MILLIONS of the tea party express....Beck made 23 million last year alone fueling this on...so tell me whose their daddies....

[barnesfoto]

some people figured out the intelligence level of this sick subcult long ago when Sarah Palin, whose party brought the country to financial ruin and got us involved in two ill planned wars, showed up and started crowing about deficits. Others noticed that many of the so-called "leaders" of teabagger groups-those who led the shrieks against government health care-were themselves unwilling to give up their government health care...[[see: Dick Armee, Sarah Palin).

Still others noted that one of the teabaggist leaders was in fact, on welfare. Then there was the 500 dollar per person convention...why, how grassroots!

If that didn't convince one of the vast stupidity of these people, there was the case of Scott Ashjian, running for Harry Reids' seat. Despite impeccable conservative credentials [[Businessman, Mormon, etc, Ashjian is accused of being a "progressive plant" by other teabaggers [[Must be that Armenian name, hey, aren't Armenians from Arabia?)..
Finally we have a set of pictures, including one of a woman who accuses Nancy Pelosi of being stupid while herself showing a lack of spelling skills, and apparently we are supposed to ignore her ignorance [[or that of the "Lurn English" crowd because, hey, they're old white people.

Or, maybe those are actually liberal infiltrators!

However, it seems like the people who have the time to waste defending these obvious morans and coming up with still more conspiracy theories to layer over the already existing conspiracies. are ahem, non-liberals.

Of course, they could be liberals pretending to be dumb conservocrites to discredit conservocrites..

[Stosh]

Quote: "if there are intelligent, thoughtful people in this movement, they need to get to the forefront."

Agreed.

In a crowd, it's pretty hard not to have a front row, but I'll bet that they manage to do just that.

The entire movement is based on half ,or even quarter or non truths. How can you get those sort of people from a flock of the sheeplike is beyond me. All you need to do is to look up the lies, and voila, the truth is revealed. How simple is that?

They'd sooner have their reality spoon fed by the paid bloggers and the backers of this slimy excuse for a "grassroots" movement. Look up who's paying the bills and see who is actually behind this whole scheme and what their aims are.

I'd call it a movement all right. Of the bowel variety.

[gibran]

Now this would be irony: Pretend they win in 2012: since the tea party is so anti-government that they reject stimulus funds and bailout outs of auto industry [[one of the talking heads declared we Americans have to get used to European levels of unemployment)...that the unemployment stays at 10% for the future and even rises to 20%...forcing Americans to rely on a social system to support this high rate of unemployment...thus becoming socialist....OMG the tea party is moving us into to socialism....that's irony

[Sstashmoo]

Mike Huckabee just announced allowing gays to marry is the same as legalizing incest. He's hoping to run for the 2012 Republican ticket. He probably just forked that real good. He is aligning himself with the Tea party'ers..

We need a leader folks. This recent group of idiots and ball players liek Obama, Hillary, McCain et al, are not cutting it.

[oladub]

Sorry folks the responsible people who would engage in a healthy debate has left the room ....[[in the teaparty)...what is left is tax evaders, non restrictive gun collectors, angry white men and women and those who think Sarah has a firmer grip on foreign affairs than our elected officials...these people are having rallies in April on purpose folks [[go to OKC someday and see what some now covertly supported)...these are secessionists, these are birthers, these are the modern KKK [[yes...in many counties in OK/AR/TX the KKK has embraced this movement)...these people have pushed out the reformist libertarians....and now the republican party has adopted a position to coop these folks...yes some are misguided good folks ...but like the above posts....STEP up and out front unless it is too late and the genie is out o fthe bottle...
bias [[ hell) just ride by one of the rallies across from hospitals and see them yelling at people whose loved ones are inside...or those whose love ones didn't have insurance and are now worried how to pay for the stay...it was disgusting and I had to stop myself from going over there and yelling back...

You all who find comfort in these folks representing you [[Sarah et al) are being used by Beck and the gang ....of idiots whose anger is fueling these folks all the while driving around the country making MILLIONS of the tea party express....Beck made 23 million last year alone fueling this on...so tell me whose their daddies....

Gibran, Not to totally disagree with you but demographically tea partiers are more similar to average Americans than not according to Gallup unless you have some better statistics. According to Gallup, " Tea Party supporters are decidedly Republican and conservative in their leanings. Also, compared with average Americans, supporters are slightly more likely to be male and less likely to be lower-income." They are also more likely to be pro-life and oppose the health care plan. "In several other respects, however -- their age, educational background, employment status, and race -- Tea Partiers are quite representative of the public at large."
http://www.gallup.com/poll/127181/Te...ographics.aspx



The minority of tea partiers with the misspelled signs and the Sarah celebrity types are the ones who get on the news and the other 97% and their quest for smaller government are ignored. Such is news coverage. When I see all professional signs, I will take that as a sign that the Republican National Committee has successfully take over that movement. If you want to get rid of them, meet them half way by cutting federal spending significantly, balancing the budget, and replacing a measure of regulation with liberty. The other way to get rid of them is let the RNC take over the tea party movement and suck the life out of it.

[gibran]

those who identify with smaller government and real issues fine...but in the states mentioned in the daily papers we see another side of it...in Ok the call is for state militias by politicians pandering to the tea party... I don't see regular folks ... I see the demographics of white people scared to death of diversity and I see a collection of angry republican sore losers that were on the fringe to begin with, I sure hope real republicans can stand up to this movement... I would like to see the "n" sample size of this poll... you don't have to wait for the signs...just look at the congress men and women starting to coop these "small minorities with signs"... your libertarian party is getting lost in this movement...who is comingout are the tax revolters and gun [[not regular firearms either) hoarders, a small group of prolifers [[yet beleive in the death penality)...people are already calling on states to form militias,,,you want to wait for another tragedy> ever go to the OKC memorial?

I have seen these average folks camped outside of the Catholic Hospitals...yelling..and yes they fit the demographics...but they also fit the mob mentality also... I know you don't ebeliev in this type of movement Ola...you are more libertarian leaning [[which is where some of the good folks started at)///I am afraid it was hijacked and now what you see despite the poll is a different story.

[Stosh]

Gibran, Not to totally disagree with you but demographically tea partiers are more similar to average Americans than not according to Gallup unless you have some better statistics. According to Gallup, " Tea Party supporters are decidedly Republican and conservative in their leanings. Also, compared with average Americans, supporters are slightly more likely to be male and less likely to be lower-income." They are also more likely to be pro-life and oppose the health care plan. "In several other respects, however -- their age, educational background, employment status, and race -- Tea Partiers are quite representative of the public at large."
http://www.gallup.com/poll/127181/Te...ographics.aspx



The minority of tea partiers with the misspelled signs and the Sarah celebrity types are the ones who get on the news and the other 97% and their quest for smaller government are ignored. Such is news coverage. When I see all professional signs, I will take that as a sign that the Republican National Committee has successfully take over that movement. If you want to get rid of them, meet them half way by cutting federal spending significantly, balancing the budget, and replacing a measure of regulation with liberty. The other way to get rid of them is let the RNC take over the tea party movement and suck the life out of it.

The telling part of this movement is the education levels attained by it's adherents.

No College = High school or below education level,
Some College = 1 or 2 courses, maybe...

And this level of education indicates a distinct lack of intellectual curiosity.

It's damn easy to go on line to see the truth about all this BS they get riled about. It's not big government that these people are worried about. They are worried about what they are TOLD to worry about. If you haven't noticed, the subjects change weekly, along with the paid bloggers, and the Beck show.

I'm all for responsible government. That said, I'm also for a sane government. What these people offer isn't sanity, but a plunge into the end of this country as we know it.

[oladub]

According to a new Rasmussen poll-
By 48-44%, Americans now believe that the average tea partier has more in common with them on national issues than does President Obama.

"If the Tea Party was organized as a political party, 34% of voters would prefer a Democrat in a three-way congressional race. In that hypothetical match-up, the Republican gets 27% of the vote with the Tea Party hopeful in third at 21%." However, more tea partiers would vote with Republicans in a three way race.
"Twenty-four percent [[24%) of voters now consider themselves a part of the Tea Party movement, an eight-point increase from a month ago."

Election 2012: Barack Obama 42%, Ron Paul 41% [[Rasmussen) shucks.

[Sstashmoo]

Ok I'm ready..

Braced for the Ron Paul Pedophile or spousal abuse charges by the media.. The "Alien" stuff is already being used against Kucinich.

I hope RonPaul runs and I hope he wins, but realistically he doesn't stand a snowballs chance..

[johnsmith]

The telling part of this movement is the education levels attained by it's adherents.

No College = High school or below education level,
Some College = 1 or 2 courses, maybe...

And this level of education indicates a distinct lack of intellectual curiosity.

It's damn easy to go on line to see the truth about all this BS they get riled about. It's not big government that these people are worried about. They are worried about what they are TOLD to worry about. If you haven't noticed, the subjects change weekly, along with the paid bloggers, and the Beck show.

I'm all for responsible government. That said, I'm also for a sane government. What these people offer isn't sanity, but a plunge into the end of this country as we know it.

Plunge is right, as in, that post is so full of shit, it needs a good plunging.

[Stosh]

Plunge is right, as in, that post is so full of shit, it needs a good plunging.

I'm assuming that you are referring to my post. Unclear and off base as always.

I'd refer you to some reading material, but I doubt seriously that you would read it.

Maybe when this bowel movement called teabaggery causes the second schism in this nation's history, you will be happy. Sedition suits you, it seems.

And this:

"Twenty-four percent [[24%) of voters now consider themselves a part of the Tea Party movement, an eight-point increase from a month ago."

I'd love to correlate this by IQ and intellectual curiosity. I suppose the d-bag quotient is quite high in the party....

[Papasito]

Come election time, both parties will be grasping for these "teabaggers", as you call them.
That's right, Democrats will try to make themselves appeal to this voting block.
It's going to be interesting to see how they do that.

[gibran]

how can anyone justify what this movement is really about.. it's not the "limited government except when I need it crowd" that worries me ... funny these poor souls on here want to believe that this a populist movement [[maybe it was for some)whenin fact it is a movement that can and may lead to violence "you bettcha"...and feeds into the ego of Sarah "just charge through reality" Palin...

I have a feeling that real Republicans and Compassionate Libertarians may wake up with a sad case of be careful what you wish for....

stats aside if 1/9 people identify with someof the core values of this movement...that means a lot of people still don't...but look to Gaza where < 25% of the population screwed it up for the 75% percent...as a model of this mess.

[Stosh]

Come election time, both parties will be grasping for these "teabaggers", as you call them.
That's right, Democrats will try to make themselves appeal to this voting block.
It's going to be interesting to see how they do that.

What makes you think that these people actually vote?

[gibran]

voting isn't that a government intrusion of individualism...why not just have everyone be a president of their little world...Just like the Time Peter on the "Family Guy" did it....there you go...Peter the first tea party president...

[oladub]

In my never ending quest to learn about tea partiers and dispell myths, I have come across a CBS poll vindicating Gibran to some extent.


Oh-oh! A favorable Bush rating is like a favorable Wall Street Bailout rating. Must get the Paul ratings higher. Time to bring back the blimp and videos. Still giddy about the Rasmusen Poll. Time to pull out campaign videos. Why Republican leadership hates Ron Paul. [[I'm practicing)
animated Paul
Evanescence meets Ron Paul
Jacksonville Paint The Town RON
Aimee

[Stosh]

You may as well let them see the REST of the story, huh?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504365_1...61-504365.html

• • 75% don't believe that the president shares the values of most Americans. Fascinating. I'd pay money to sit down with these folks to learn more about their belief system. They must think of Obama as something of a cross between Eldridge Cleaver and a Maoist Mao-Mao. As for the over-achieving, doting wife and those ridiculously cute kids? Obvious stage props to divert attention from the revolutionary hordes massing on the other side of the Rio Grande.
  • 88% say the economic stimulus has had no impact on the economy. Two possibilities here. Either they aren't paying attention or they the tea partiers are so ideologically blinkered that it really doesn't matter what the facts are. By any measure except one - jobs - the economy is demonstrably stronger than it was when George W. Bush left the White House. We can argue about economic theory but data remain immune from ideology and they are beyond contestation.
  • 92% say that Obama is moving the country toward socialism. I'll wager two means of production and one Saul Alinsky union card that most of these folks never read Das Kapital and wouldn't know a Hegelian dialectic from the man in the moon. Obama, a bourgeois intellectual who has surrounded himself with mainstays of corporate capitalism, has a plan to take us to the socialist paradise? Yeah, and I suppose the New York Mets are a lock to win the World Series this year.
  • 54% identify as belonging to the GOP while 41% claim to be Independents. Just 5% are Democrats. This isn't surprising. Nor is it any shock to learn that 57% have a favorable view of George W. Bush. It apparently did not register that the Great Recession began under Dubya's watch [[as did the haphazard Wall Street bailout.)
  • Asked what they liked least about Obama, 19% simply don't like him. Another 11% say he is turning the U.S. more toward socialism, and 10% mentioned health care reforms. [[9% said he was dishonest.) I'm not sure how far to extrapolate but 89% of these folks are white and a majority feel that too much has been made of the problems facing blacks.

[barnesfoto]

Didn't somebody mention half truths and quarter truths?

Nearly 9 in 10 disapprove of the job Mr. Obama is doing over all, and about the same percentage fault his handling of major issues: health care, the economy and the federal budget deficit. Ninety-two percent believe Mr. Obama is moving the country toward socialism, an opinion shared by more than half of the general public.

“I just feel he’s getting away from what America is,� said Kathy Mayhugh, 67, a retired medical transcriber in Jacksonville. “He’s a socialist. And to tell you the truth, I think he’s a Muslim and trying to head us in that direction, I don’t care what he says. He’s been in office over a year and can’t find a church to go to. That doesn’t say much for him.�

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us...cs/15poll.html


Just to clarify, is Kathy Mayhugh a liberal plant trying to portray the Teabaggers as a bunch of loons, or is this the genuine ranting of a sick cultist?

[gibran]

the liberal plant slant is recent...the realities these folks with their quaint "folksy" ways had the signs long before the false flag "liberal plant" stories....face it whether they are educated and uneducated populists..someone finally got the scab torn off the racist birther, Muslim/socialist [[ they still don't know the difference between their "isms") president accusations....now they are practicing psychology and labeling the president a narcissist when their own leaders are socio paths and the real narissist is running around making millions on his radio show, and other assortments of personality disorders..

Ron Paul would be a welcomed candidate [[ I would like Nader)...but these folks would rather have the icon of conservatism Sarah Palin; despite what other polls are saying she is running on the Tea party Ticket...I hope Ron gets into the debate..I would like his take on the tea party...


the real bottom line is the protest or rally on the dates of WACO and OKC...folks this small offshoot of the teaparty are thugs...anyone who even remotely supports rallies on the days losely connected to OKC are thugs...I have worked with the first responders, seen the families of oKC, been to the site and we all should never even remotely give credence to this type of mentality...yet whethe ritis repubican using teabaggers or teabaggers being co-opt by republicans...these foks are breeders of serperation and prejudice...you can't dress a pig and tack on horns and call it a cow.

You want less government ..fine...you want a government the is dividing people and reachs out to the lowest denominator of society [[racists)...well you have found your party...these people will change the republicn party [[for worse)... i agree we need real leaders not sheep.

[Papasito]

if they choose Palin, that will be the end of this movement.
it's political suicide.

[Stosh]

Didn't somebody mention half truths and quarter truths?

Nearly 9 in 10 disapprove of the job Mr. Obama is doing over all, and about the same percentage fault his handling of major issues: health care, the economy and the federal budget deficit. Ninety-two percent believe Mr. Obama is moving the country toward socialism, an opinion shared by more than half of the general public.

“I just feel he’s getting away from what America is,” said Kathy Mayhugh, 67, a retired medical transcriber in Jacksonville. “He’s a socialist. And to tell you the truth, I think he’s a Muslim and trying to head us in that direction, I don’t care what he says. He’s been in office over a year and can’t find a church to go to. That doesn’t say much for him.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us...cs/15poll.html


Just to clarify, is Kathy Mayhugh a liberal plant trying to portray the Teabaggers as a bunch of loons, or is this the genuine ranting of a sick cultist?

Just to clarify your post....

Nearly nine in 10 of TEABAGGERS believe those statistics you mentioned.
Which shows purely and simply how screwed up these people truly are. Really.

A liberal plant? Hardly. This is emblematic of the rampant stupidity and ignorance in this country.

The fact that a significant portion of the voting population is dumb as a box of rocks is not lost on the polititions in this country. There are always sheep in this country, and plenty of people willing to use that to their advantage. I'm not thrilled as to some of the direction things are going in these days either, but this direction is wrong as well.

[Sstashmoo]

Quote: "TEABAGGERS believe what you posted. Which shows purely and simply how fuked up these people truly are."

You're only metric is what your favorite arm of the media is telling you? Been on the ground at one of these meetings? Researched their tenets? Love them, hate them, laugh at them, the "Really" is, more and more Americans are identifying and aligning with this movement. People are fed up, angry and tired of being pushed aside for the benefit of Special interests and Corporations.

This country has been being fleeced from the inside out for years, our manufacturing sector is all but gone, people are losing their jobs, savings, homes. We're 12 trillion in debt. Our current President harped on issues like trade during his campaign, takes office and does nothing but screw over his base and goes to work for his lobbyists. People are pissed and acting out and I don't blame them. Are they all members of Mensa? Probably not, but they are Americans and they are exercising their rights as US citizens. Anyone has a problem with that, can shove it.

[Stosh]

Quote: "TEABAGGERS believe what you posted. Which shows purely and simply how fuked up these people truly are."

You're only metric is what your favorite arm of the media is telling you? Been on the ground at one of these meetings? Researched their tenets? Love them, hate them, laugh at them, the "Really" is, more and more Americans are identifying and aligning with this movement. People are fed up, angry and tired of being pushed aside for the benefit of Special interests and Corporations.

This country has been being fleeced from the inside out for years, our manufacturing sector is all but gone, people are losing their jobs, savings, homes. We're 12 trillion in debt. Our current President harped on issues like trade during his campaign, takes office and does nothing but screw over his base and goes to work for his lobbyists. People are pissed and acting out and I don't blame them. Are they all members of Mensa? Probably not, but they are Americans and they are exercising their rights as US citizens. Anyone has a problem with that, can shove it.

I love your logic. Proves my point evey time.

Of course I research my statements. The tea party is controlled and manipulated by corporatists as well. Do YOUR research and find that out.

I'm dissapointed in Obama for forsaking trade as well, but not to the point of embracing the lunatics that are within this movement, and what their aims are. You fail to see the danger in all of this for this country, and blindly applaud the obvious seditionist tone in this idiocy. I feel that there's a fine line between sedition and the rights of citizens to protest, and that line has been crossed many times by the Tea Party, and their talking heads.

And anyone that has a problem with THAT, can shove it as well.

P.S. Nobody said that the Antichrist can't be a woman, either.

[gibran]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-a..._b_538395.html

while not being able to get their message out [[democrats) the others are covering their tracks well and hiding in the tea party...