Nancy Whiskey's Permit Trouble

**agirlintheD** · February-27-10, 07:36 PM

If their name was Kilpatrick it would have already been rebuilt...just saying.

**reddog289** · February-28-10, 03:55 AM

Love how people complain on the lack of everything in the COD, Yet it seems to be a pain in the ass to do business in Detroit. The mighty Revs here must be smiling when they hear that a bar can't reopen, Less drinking, Less crime. The people of Detroit and the neighboring citys have spoke . No Alchohol, Its bad for all.
But seriously That place has been a Bar for a long time, Why should they have to go through this crap to reopen?

**1KielsonDrive** · February-28-10, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by reddog289

Love how people complain on the lack of everything in the COD, Yet it seems to be a pain in the ass to do business in Detroit. The mighty Revs here must be smiling when they hear that a bar can't reopen, Less drinking, Less crime. The people of Detroit and the neighboring citys have spoke . No Alchohol, Its bad for all.
But seriously That place has been a Bar for a long time, Why should they have to go through this crap to reopen?

If a business stays closed for a certain amount of time, it might lose its 'grandfather' status, much like happened to the Norwalk Bar in Hamtramck. There are laws and/or codes which define that stuff. Unfortunately, bureaucracies are self fulfilling entities, so they often have a vested interest in the wrestling match. The problem needing to be resolved is strong leaders who seriously desire to do what is good for all concerned. Closing Nancy's wouldn't serve much good for anyone, though it might please a few nearby neighbors. Nancy's has been an anchor of that neighborhood for many years. Let's hope there's someone in city hall that will stand up for them.

**Fury13** · February-28-10, 11:42 PM

The city needs to change its zoning policy. Sorry, but bars belong on corners within neighborhoods. You should be able to walk to them. That's how it's done in cities like Boston, NYC, Chicago. It's part of what makes neighborhoods in those cities appealing.

This modern paradigm of having bars only on commercial strips is anti-urban. But then, Detroit's zoning people must be clueless.

**Goose** · February-28-10, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by Fury13

The city needs to change its zoning policy. Sorry, but bars belong on corners within neighborhoods. You should be able to walk to them. That's how it's done in cities like Boston, NYC, Chicago. It's part of what makes neighborhoods in those cities appealing.

This modern paradigm of having bars only on commercial strips is anti-urban. But then, Detroit's zoning people must be clueless.

agree

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**1KielsonDrive** · February-28-10, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by Fury13

The city needs to change its zoning policy. Sorry, but bars belong on corners within neighborhoods. You should be able to walk to them. That's how it's done in cities like Boston, NYC, Chicago. It's part of what makes neighborhoods in those cities appealing.

This modern paradigm of having bars only on commercial strips is anti-urban. But then, Detroit's zoning people must be clueless.

I agree with your comments. But that's partially due to the fact those cities maintained and still have strong, contiguous neighborhoods.

**ddaydetroit** · March-01-10, 01:06 AM

Funny how they make laws they don't want you to drink and drive then they make laws against neighborhood bars that are within walking distance of homes?

**1KielsonDrive** · March-02-10, 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by ddaydetroit

Funny how they make laws they don't want you to drink and drive then they make laws against neighborhood bars that are within walking distance of homes?

Absolutely excellent point.

**casscorridor** · March-02-10, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Fury13

The city needs to change its zoning policy. Sorry, but bars belong on corners within neighborhoods. You should be able to walk to them. That's how it's done in cities like Boston, NYC, Chicago. It's part of what makes neighborhoods in those cities appealing.

This modern paradigm of having bars only on commercial strips is anti-urban. But then, Detroit's zoning people must be clueless.

Maybe the problem is that city hall is deciding the zoning, and not the neighborhood itself. Do you think the residents of North Corktown want Nancy's to stick around? If so, I think they should be able to, without interference from city hall.

And can we really trust city hall to zone anything properly? Just look at the massive blunders they've made in the past... demolition of black bottom and the construction of Brewsters, Jefferies, the Freeways and Lafayette Park/Elmwood Park, the Demolition of Rivertown for the supposed casinos, the demolition of the entire riverfront area south of downtown. The list goes on and on and on. Nothing is going to change, until we get rid of corporate control over our city, until people have control over their own neighborhoods and the neighborhoods have control over the city.

**Fury13** · February-28-10, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by 1KielsonDrive

If a business stays closed for a certain amount of time, it might lose its 'grandfather' status, much like happened to the Norwalk Bar in Hamtramck.

So the Norwalk Bar building can no longer be a bar? That's a shame... that place had character. I know the building was purchased; do you know what it will be used for?