Bill Maher on Teabaggers... Priceless

[Stosh]

[rb336]

thug is Governor Spencer an elected union official. This is the third such video of different events I've found.

"thug" huh? that video is so grainy, so obviously chopped, it is hard to say what was going on. interesting that the tabor guy admits to turning off the camera while he confronted the guy who was putting the blame where it belongs, only to turn it on again in time for the alleged punch

[oladub]

"thug" huh? that video is so grainy, so obviously chopped, it is hard to say what was going on. interesting that the tabor guy admits to turning off the camera while he confronted the guy who was putting the blame where it belongs, only to turn it on again in time for the alleged punch

rb, It is interesting that you take the side of the assaulter.

The earlier YouTube video had the camera being knocked around by the Obama thug at close range. The one you saw shows the guy being punched while holding his camera in one hand . Think about it. The segment showing him being punched in the face was obviously taken by a different camera. Since only one person was throwing punches, the punching bag has a lot of witnesses, there are at least two videos recording the event, and the police came along and probably collected some witness statements to the effect that the Obama thug shoved the guy's wife, the Obama thug is going to have a tough time defending himself.

[jerrytimes]

I didn't read all the posts here so I apologize if someone already mentioned this, but isn't Mahers statement only true because he's using dollar figures and not a stat based on percentage? People have made less money, hence they pay less taxes. Isn't that actually what has happened? I know that my wife and I paid less in the last year, but we paid a higher percentage of our income. We made less over the year because she is laid off.

[rb336]

rb, It is interesting that you take the side of the assaulter.

The earlier YouTube video had the camera being knocked around by the Obama thug at close range. The one you saw shows the guy being punched while holding his camera in one hand . Think about it. The segment showing him being punched in the face was obviously taken by a different camera. Since only one person was throwing punches, the punching bag has a lot of witnesses, there are at least two videos recording the event, and the police came along and probably collected some witness statements to the effect that the Obama thug shoved the guy's wife, the Obama thug is going to have a tough time defending himself.

not taking sides at all, just saying what can be seen in the video ain't the whole story and isn't very clear. The majority of people there were on the one guy's side, and could well have edited what they put up as well. you choose to believe one side with clearly altered video in support, I merely said the whole story isn't there. if it turns out the one guy hit the other without being shoved, then yes, he was a thug. are you willing to say that if your guy instigated the thing by shoving that he is a thug?

didn't think so

[Stosh]

rb, It is interesting that you take the side of the assaulter.

The earlier YouTube video had the camera being knocked around by the Obama thug at close range. The one you saw shows the guy being punched while holding his camera in one hand . Think about it. The segment showing him being punched in the face was obviously taken by a different camera. Since only one person was throwing punches, the punching bag has a lot of witnesses, there are at least two videos recording the event, and the police came along and probably collected some witness statements to the effect that the Obama thug shoved the guy's wife, the Obama thug is going to have a tough time defending himself.

Biased much? Obama thug? Christ, I imagine that Obama paid him to do that?

[oladub]

not taking sides at all, just saying what can be seen in the video ain't the whole story and isn't very clear. The majority of people there were on the one guy's side, and could well have edited what they put up as well. you choose to believe one side with clearly altered video in support, I merely said the whole story isn't there. if it turns out the one guy hit the other without being shoved, then yes, he was a thug. are you willing to say that if your guy instigated the thing by shoving that he is a thug?

didn't think so

Edited by the news crew most likely, but what was altered? I only saw one guy acting like a mugger attacking someone who was holding a camera in one hand. If the mugger had shoved the guy's wife, it wouldn't have been unreasonable for her husband to defend her. What was totally unreasonable was the assault.

Stosh: "Biased much? Obama thug? Christ, I imagine that Obama paid him to do that?

Stosh, You're right. Perhaps Governor Spencer, the mugger, wasn't an Obama supporter. Maybe he voted for McCain.

What's with the snapshot from your porno file?

[maxx]

Speaking of Bill Maher, he had Oliver Stone on his show last night. Stone's latest movie "South of the Border" has W giving the real reason we invaded Iraq. W said that war is good for the American economy.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_592444.html

Keep voting Republican and get more of the great economy war brings. And more tax cuts for the rich. And less money for schools, the FDA, and the EPA.

[Sstashmoo]

Quote: "Keep voting Republican and get more of the great economy war brings."

We have a Democratic President and congress and have had for the last year and a half. About 1/2 the duration of WWII. Just how long does it take to end this senseless "war" as our President claimed it was during his campaign? When he promised over and over to end our involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan. He's escalated it. And now he's threatening Iran at the urging of a democratically controlled congress. We can get ready for four more years of this jake leg, he's a prime ball player and shoe-in for the win in 2012.

[Stosh]

Stosh, You're right. Perhaps Governor Spencer, the mugger, wasn't an Obama supporter. Maybe he voted for McCain.

I am sure that you know of countless other assholes that are roaming the streets any hour of the day assaulting people, of any political persuasion known to man, and you pick this douch e as a prime example? I suppose that there's no point talking to you, your head is up the [[continued)

What's with the snapshot from your porno file?

porn shot from my "porno file" , as you call it, above.
Only you would be able to draw that analogy. I'm not seeing the attraction. It may be a Wisconsin fetish. Or maybe even some sort of closet libertarian thing?
I'm not judging, I mean I'm sure it gets lonely up there on your farm and all....

[oladub]

Stosh: "I am sure that you know of countless other assholes that are roaming the streets any hour of the day assaulting people, of any political persuasion known to man, and you pick this douch e as a prime example? I suppose that there's no point talking to you, your head is up the [[continued)"

At least you called him a '~~~~~~ e' and didn't defend him like rb. The theme though was Clinton warning us of violence that might stem from the tea party movement. With a little twist, maybe he was right. This guy was just the most recent example. I appreciate irony.

"porn shot from my "porno file" , as you call it, above.
Only you would be able to draw that analogy. I'm not seeing the attraction. It may be a Wisconsin fetish. Or maybe even some sort of closet libertarian thing?
I'm not judging, I mean I'm sure it gets lonely up there on your farm and all.... "

Umm, I didn't post it. It just reminded me of Democrats.

[Stosh]

At least you called him a '~~~~~~ e' and didn't defend him like rb. The theme though was Clinton warning us of violence that might stem from the tea party movement. With a little twist, maybe he was right. This guy was just the most recent example. I appreciate irony.

There's violence inherent in everybody. Calling the ignorant fool a "Obama Thug" is just like me calling you a boot licking Randian parasite. Not that I would, of course.

Umm, I didn't post it. It just reminded me of Democrats.[/quote]

I like that logo. Of course there's always this gem.

[maxx]

oladub: The earlier YouTube video had the camera being knocked around by the Obama thug at close range.

maxx: So the President is responsible for every nut who claims to support him? He could be a Republican trying to give liberals a bad name. So then are all the Tea-Partyers who employed Brown Shirt tactics at the hearings Palin thugs?

[oladub]

oladub: The earlier YouTube video had the camera being knocked around by the Obama thug at close range.

maxx: So the President is responsible for every nut who claims to support him? He could be a Republican trying to give liberals a bad name. So then are all the Tea-Partyers who employed Brown Shirt tactics at the hearings Palin thugs?

Sure, Governor Spencer "could be a Republican trying to give liberals a bad name". The President certainly isn't responsible unless one would listen to President Clinton who warned us about how rhetoric can lead to violence. The following rhetoric might qualify,

“They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun�, “Get in Their Faces!�, “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!�, “Hit Back Twice As Hard�, Obama to BP: “We talk to these folks… So I know whose a$$ to kick.�

Be angry, bring a gun, hit back twice as hard, and kick ass are President Obama's directives. That's how to bring us together [[very presidential too), So we can see how, in this case, this Obamatron thug was just following the President's directives by hitting back twice as hard. Shoving a woman was just a little indiscretion but I think within limits. So no, I don't think that President Obama is directly responsible because I don't agree with Clinton. Without Clinton's comments, I would write the incident off as another independent left leaning brownshirt acting out.

stosh: "I like that logo."

I suppose you did.

Re libertarians and Republicans. There is a some merging going on but as you may have noticed the RNC has been losing some battles with more libertarian elements in Kentucky, Maine, and most recently Nevada. In Nevada, Sue Lowden just got her payback for throwing the State's Republican convention for McCain so a more libertarian candidate will face Harry Reid. I wouldn't go quite so far as to say these are libertarian candidates beating the neocons. They are candidates who position themselves between libertarians and more mainstream Republicans. Democrats should be happy that the more neocon Bush, Cheney, Giuliani type wing of the party is being turned out to pasture.

[Stosh]

Now why on earth would you not like these tactics?

“They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun�, “Get in Their Faces!�, “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!�, “Hit Back Twice As Hard�, Obama to BP: “We talk to these folks… So I know whose a$$ to kick.�

These are the same tactics employed by the Republicans, AND Libertarians. It's not so much a good thing when it is used against you, is it? Get used to it.
Unless, of course, there's some sort of "come to Jesus" moment among the neocons... and the analists of the Libertarian Party, of course.

[maxx]

oladub:
I'm not talking rhetoric. I'm talking about people shouting down anyone who is trying to talk. Our whole democracy is supposedly based on reasoned dialogue and debate, but the rightwing loonies just want to vent.

[oladub]

Now why on earth would you not like these tactics?

These are the same tactics employed by the Republicans, AND Libertarians. It's not so much a good thing when it is used against you, is it? Get used to it.
Unless, of course, there's some sort of "come to Jesus" moment among the neocons... and the analists of the Libertarian Party, of course.

Neocon Republicans for sure but except for some Ron Paulers chasing Hannity with snowballs, I'm hard pressed to think of libertarians using such threats. Mostly they would prefer being left alone to using government as a tool to steal from their neighbors.

"Get used to it" Ah, now you've got the Obama spirit. When is Kristallnacht scheduled? A horsey picture, you like donkey pictures too, an anal reference, and even telling us to get used to Obama's thugs. A pattern emerges. You have managed to make 'change we can believe in' sound too much like a sado/masochist fantasy. Sorry, libertarians aren't into either end of the fantasy.

maxx: "I'm not talking rhetoric. I'm talking about people shouting down anyone who is trying to talk. Our whole democracy is supposedly based on reasoned dialogue and debate, but the rightwing loonies just want to vent."

It is a republic not a democracy. The democratic process is not furthered, however, by calling people loonies or worse [[read Stosh stuff) not that rightwingers have a monopoly on venting.

[Stosh]

Neocon Republicans for sure but except for some Ron Paulers chasing Hannity with snowballs, I'm hard pressed to think of libertarians using such threats. Mostly they would prefer being left alone to using government as a tool to steal from their neighbors.

Really? and who appointed you the spokesperson for every so called "libertarian" on the planet? Too often the term is quite interchangeable with Republican, or conservative. I'd like to see you back that up. Of course you can't.

"Get used to it" Ah, now you've got the Obama spirit. When is Kristallnacht scheduled? A horsey picture, you like donkey pictures too, an anal reference, and even telling us to get used to Obama's thugs. A pattern emerges. You have managed to make 'change we can believe in' sound too much like a sado/masochist fantasy. Sorry, libertarians aren't into either end of the fantasy.

Yes, of course, it's all about the horse, donkey, and elephant shit now isn't it. Anal is, as anal does, and you've cornered the market on that, as well as the shit concession, it seems. It's beginning to sound like you know waaayyyy too much about this brand of porn. Bestiality doesn't suit you. Stick to what you are more comfortable with, a clear Obama fetish love/hate relationship.

It is a republic not a democracy. The democratic process is not furthered, however, by calling people loonies or worse [[read Stosh stuff) not that rightwingers have a monopoly on venting.

I call it as I see it.
You are right, it is a republic. Which means you have no voice, and are dependent on government to govern, the way people vote them in. Must suck to be you.

[oladub]

Really? and who appointed you the spokesperson for every so called "libertarian" on the planet? Too often the term is quite interchangeable with Republican, or conservative. I'd like to see you back that up. Of course you can't..

You did. Not sure what you are otherwise talking about. Republican has to do with a party too statist, at the moment, for my taste although not quite as bad as the Democrat Party but only by degree. Libertarian [[small L) is the opposite of authoritarian. I'm by no means a libertarian purist but am probably closer to the libertarian end of the libertarian-authoritarian spectrum than you.

Yes, of course, it's all about the horse, donkey, and elephant shit now isn't it. Anal is, as anal does, and you've cornered the market on that, as well as the shit concession, it seems. It's beginning to sound like you know waaayyyy too much about this brand of porn. Bestiality doesn't suit you. Stick to what you are more comfortable with, a clear Obama fetish love/hate relationship.

All stuff you, not I, brought into the conversation. Don't forget to include your classic Ãœbermensch quote, ""Get used to it". My critique of Bush was much the same for his wars, spending, bailout; things I criticize Obama for but since Bush hasn't been President for 17 months, what's the point of keeping that up?

I call it as I see it.
You are right, it is a republic. Which means you have no voice, and are dependent on government to govern, the way people vote them in. Must suck to be you

Actually, the advantage of a constitutional republic as opposed to a peoples democracy is that individuals and minorities are guaranteed a measure of protection from the tyranny of the majority. Why imagine what other's are thinking though? Is it necessary to justify saying something like, "Get used to it" in reference to justifying thugs or even thug events? Or is just in the hopeychangey spirit of, “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun�, “Get in Their Faces!�, “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!�, “Hit Back Twice As Hard�, and So I know whose a$$ to kick.� ?

[maxx]

oladub: It is a republic not a democracy.

maxx: Actually it is a corporatocracy, run by businesses and for businesses. The sooner the average person realizes that, the sooner we can stop arguing with each other and demand a change in the way elections are funded and get back our government.

[ferntruth]

I could never stomach Maher, even when I agreed with what he was saying. His snide, uncouth manner is very unappealing. He just seems like a very condescending miserable little man.

Pot meet kettle

[maxx]

http://www.naacp.org/news/entry/naac...-the-tea-pary/
"Today, NAACP delegates passed a resolution to condemn extremist elements within the Tea Party, calling on Tea Party leaders to repudiate those in their ranks who use racist language in their signs and speeches...."

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