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  1. #101
    littlebuddy Guest

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    Islamofacist terrorists will not go away. It has little to nothing to do with our support of Israel or wars we are in. Islam at in its purest form is a terrorist religion, it started that way and still seeks to be that way for tens of millions of Muslims. The goal of Mohammad and Islam is to make the whole world submit to Islam, if not by conversion, then by the sword. The Muslim terrorists care little about your religion, all they care about is that you submit to Islam. Islam means submission and they want you to submit one way or another. This has nothing to do with Bush, Obama, or any other President or leader of any other country. Any preceived weakness on a non-Muslim's part, wheather a treaty, or dialogue, or turning the other cheek only makes a Muslim.s resolve stronger to see all non-Muslims submit to Islam. Moderate Muslims talk a good game, and I am sure really believe Islam is a religion of peace, but they are so far off base with what their founder was it is like it is a totally different religion. Israel has found this out time and time again what Islam is really like, Europe is finding out as their Muslim population grows and America will find out more and more if they choose to turn a blind eye to what Islam really is.

  2. #102

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    Islamofacists always use terrorism and fear to defeat 2 billions Christians. It's not working. Radical Muslims using terrorism by the scimitar is making Christians and Jews strengthen their defenses for a holy crusade part II. This time with advance technological defenses.

    Radical Muslims are not reading fully what is in the scriptures of the Qu'ran so they rely on racial imans for their connection to God. Sacrificing their bodies in the name of God [[ Allah) is blasphemy! Obediance to Allah is the Muslims top priority. Islam means jihad for peace not holy and totem war. Muslims killing their bodies will be reward to a different god named the Satan the Devil.

  3. #103

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    Team America is still the Islamofacist stabilisizing businesses. A plotted terror attack will make Americans and its allies attack their holy deserts and control their resources until radical Islam is no more and Islam for jihad of peace begins.

    The prophet Muhammad wants peace after the scimitar and he's waiting for it.

    I want all Muslims to read the re-read the Holy Qu'ran over again and the Word of Allah cleans their unholy minds. Please observe the 5 pillars of Islam.

  4. #104
    littlebuddy Guest

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    What Mohammad taught at the beginning of his being a prophet was way different than what he later taught when not many would submit to what he was proclaiming. Much like a Morman Prophet[[leader of the Morman church)will bring forth a new prophesy that totally contradicts the old prophesies and the new prophesy has to be obeyed. I would think most Muslims are like most Professing Christians in this country, they really don't follow much of what the Koran or Bible has to say, or have never even read it, just follow blindly what some religious leader has said. It[[Bible or Koran)can be so taken out of context and so totally opposite of what the prophet[[Jesus or Mohammad)has lived and said that almost anything can be done or justified in a liberal or moderate way. Not saying an extreamist[[terrorist)can twist the bible to make it fit, but it is by far more uncommon. Moderates Muslims, like liberal Christians, are not really following what their leader/prophet[[Jesus or Mohammad)really lived and taught. Terrorist Muslims are the truest form of Islam, the closest to being like what Mohammad lived and taught. This is the Islam of Mohammad, it is a religion of submission to Allah, either by the sword or conversion.

  5. #105

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    Well, well. Now even Jack Lessenberry acknowledges that "though it may make doctrinaire liberals squeal, this may be a time when the airlines and the security services do need to engage, openly or otherwise, in some form of sensible, non-racist passenger profiling."
    I know that there are a lot of Muslims who live wonderful and productive lives, and know lots of them. However, the world is also full of crazies, and most of the ones advocating wholesale slaughter are Muslim whack-jobs.

    I have no use for Christian whack-jobs . . . but they aren't the main threat to civilization.
    And yes, it's impossible to avoid smirking at Jack's suggestion that he's no longer among "doctrinaire liberals."

  6. #106

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    Jack has been a blowhard forever. What's new?

  7. #107

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    Blamegame has begin...

    Two days after the attack the republicans blamed Obama. Obama blames intelligence agencies.

    But Jim Demint really takes the cake. He blames Obama but forgets he voted against additional funding of the Transportation Security Administration.

    Fucking hypicrite!!

  8. #108

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    he voted against additional funding of the Transportation Security Administration.
    If an increase in a government bureaucracy's funding level had any positive correlation to its capability and effectiveness
    a) the "war on poverty" would have been won decades ago
    b) the Detroit Public School District would have the most successful students and the newest collection of schools in the state.

    Without giving us any hint or link as to why Demint voted against throwing more money at the TSA, how can you expect us to share your contempt for him?

  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitehouse View Post
    Blamegame has begin...

    Two days after the attack the republicans blamed Obama. Obama blames intelligence agencies.

    But Jim Demint really takes the cake. He blames Obama but forgets he voted against additional funding of the Transportation Security Administration.

    Fucking hypicrite!!

    Well, I have to admit from Obama's 2 speeches on this in 2 days; he sure does not see any of this as HIS responsibility!

  10. #110

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    Well, I have to admit from Obama's 2 speeches on this in 2 days; he sure does not see any of this as HIS responsibility!
    One thing we're not going to hear from this President is a ringing endorsement of Napolitano because it will just remind everyone of Bush's ''Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job''.

    Of course, the similarities end there. FEMA is supposed to respond swiftly to a disaster and then be proactive in its planning for the next one. DHS is supposed to prevent those pesky "man-caused disasters" by proactively "connecting the dots" and then swiftly responding to round up the suspects before they can act, not just swiftly responding to am attempted "man-caused disaster" as the head of the DHS boasted of doing with Flight 253 [["once the incident occurred, the system worked!").

  11. #111

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    Islam is divided into three sects:

    1. Islam for jihad for peace.

    2. The Nation of Islam [[ That is the Black American Muslim Movement)

    3. Islamofacist Republic [[ That is radical Muslim Movement to promote terrorism for their human sacrifice for Allah)

    Islam is no longer in empire as it was 1500 years ago. It's just people taking different paths to Allah just as Christians and Jews take their different paths to God.

  12. #112

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeg View Post
    Without giving us any hint or link as to why Demint voted against throwing more money at the TSA, how can you expect us to share your contempt for him?
    He wants the TSA workers to be on par with Walmart workers, no union,benefits etc. Until he is assured that there won't be a union he will hold out.

  13. #113

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    Seems like he need to ditch that Janet Napolitano -- she comes off weak as water, back-peddling, and changing her statements as the days went forward... No wonder we are getting these attempts again -- thinking about how we appear on the international front. Wishy washy and capricious at best.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rideron View Post
    Well, I have to admit from Obama's 2 speeches on this in 2 days; he sure does not see any of this as HIS responsibility!

  14. #114

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    Though secularism is on the rise, most people here [[in the US) still just want to go on with their lives without fear of terrorism. America with all its issues is one of the most pluralistic, open societies re. the right to practice ones faith as desired.

    Also, our issues with terrorism of this kind did not start with Bush [[I am not defending Bush just pointing out a crucial historical fact). Recall: the bombing in at the US embassy in Africa, the bombing of the USS Cole off Yemen and the first attempt to destroy the world trade center 2003 etc.: all under president Clinton.


    Really this is bigger than George W. Bush, otherwise it would have simply ended with his presidency.
    Quote Originally Posted by oldredfordette View Post
    Some people won't be satisfied until there is full fledged Christian style jihad on all practitioners of Islam. Why don't you follow your hero, George W. Bush [[the president who presided over the worst terrorist attack on US soil even after ample warning) and go shopping?
    Last edited by Zacha341; January-03-10 at 08:12 AM.

  15. #115

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    Though secularism is on the rise, most people here [[in the US) still just want to go on with their lives without fear of terrorism. America with all its issues is one of the most pluralistic, open societies re. the right to practice ones faith as desired.

    Also, our issues with terrorism of this kind did not start with Bush [[I am not defending Bush just pointing out a crucial historical fact). Recall: the bombing in at the US embassy in Africa, the bombing of the USS Cole off Yemen and the first attempt to destroy the world trade center 2003 etc.: all under president Clinton.

    Really this is bigger than George W. Bush, otherwise it would have simply ended with his presidency.
    Your right, this did not start under Bush, what Bush did however that Bubba did not did do was to increase the fear and war talk basically to further his and his parties political agenda. Bush always wanted to govern as a war time president, he felt it would be easlier to get the public behind him so any act of terror he equated to war whereas Clinton treated it as a crimininal act.

    Terrorism will continue to be with us until the underlying issues that make these people commit these acts are addressed.

  16. #116

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    Terrorism will continue to be with us until the underlying issues that make these people commit these acts are addressed.
    And what are the underlying issues? If you say anything the wrong way you will be accused of being insensitive or politically incorrect.

  17. #117

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
    And what are the underlying issues? If you say anything the wrong way you will be accused of being insensitive or politically incorrect.
    These people didn't wake up one day and decide... Oh , lets go kill some americans and I will blow myself up in the process. We have done a lot of meddling in middle eastern countries affairs both politically and economically over the past decades to further our interests and not necessarily theirs. Many of these people feel we have everything and they have nothing and they express their anger and rage thru there religion. Basically the same as our home grown Christian terrorist behave. Ultimately the way to reduce this activity is to make sure the governments in the countries that they reside is strong enough that it can provide basic necessities and opportunities for its people even if its not a government we fully agree with.

  18. #118

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    QUOTE: "Also, our issues with terrorism of this kind did not start with Bush [[I am not defending Bush just pointing out a crucial historical fact). Recall: the bombing in at the US embassy in Africa, the bombing of the USS Cole off Yemen and the first attempt to destroy the world trade center 2003 etc.: all under president Clinton.[/B] "

    Somebody needs to get some better lenses. There were "terrorist attacks" during the Reagan Admin and the First Bush Admin [[barracks in Lebanon, Achlle Lauro, Lockerbie, to name a few) this despite the fact that the Reagan Admin was funding radical islamists who were called "Freedom Fighters" [[many of those "Freedom Fighters" who survive are now called terrorists...See also, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar)

    As for domestic terrorism, there were widespread incidents of domestic terrorism during most of the 20th Century. Ever heard of the Ku Klux Klan?

    As to the absurd proposal that people in other countries see us as "weak", [[despite the ongoing occupation of two different dysfunctional Islamic countries) please read up on the current situation in Pakistan, another dysfunctional country that we have poured money into. With Taliban attacks on the upswing, there is a general consensus by Pakistani wingnuts that such acts are really part of an "American Conspiracy", which I would propose, is a sign that people see us as being infinitely more powerful than we really are, and also a sign that there is no country that is not cursed with ignorant, myopic nationalists.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8369914.stm
    Last edited by barnesfoto; January-03-10 at 03:40 PM.

  19. #119

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    You bring up some interesting points. I wonder how we will ever get to the 'underlying' issues when we are too politically correct to even 'identify' motives or concepts when they are stated, even from the source.
    Quote Originally Posted by firstandten View Post
    Your right, this did not start under Bush, what Bush did however that Bubba did not did do was to increase the fear and war talk basically to further his and his parties political agenda. Bush always wanted to govern as a war time president, he felt it would be easlier to get the public behind him so any act of terror he equated to war whereas Clinton treated it as a crimininal act.

    Terrorism will continue to be with us until the underlying issues that make these people commit these acts are addressed.

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