Anybody watching Kilpatrick's restitution hearing?

lilpup · December-07-09, 11:27 AM

They just went to a 5 minute break after KK asked to speak to his attorney during a grilling about how some of his early post-plea housing was paid for. Turns out the Kilpatrick Civic Fund picked up some pretty large tabs for KK and his family.

detroitchef · December-07-09, 11:49 AM

No big surprise there, he used that 'charity' pretty heavily in the past as well, when he was forced to repay some of the city issued credit card charges turns out this is the account he paid it out of. It'd be interesting to see if the charity filed reports on time, as I recall in years past they were almost as lax as the City in filing annuals. Also, I remember something about the use of campaign funds going to the charity and there being used for personal expenses, it was a major no-no. Funny how , when you look at this 'charity' all it's done to help people is help the Kilpatrick Family.

lilpup · December-07-09, 11:51 AM

He just invoked the 5th on two questions regarding fund $$

**Maple Leaf Rag** · December-07-09, 12:04 PM

Plastic Surgery Center of Dallas. Hmmmm. Boobs for the Missus or Lipo for this fat slob?

lilpup · December-07-09, 12:07 PM

$127K income claimed on tax return vs $500K spent in a 12 month period? KK takes the 5th again.

**gnome** · December-07-09, 12:09 PM

Not sure, but I think they said the amount for the plastic surgery was in excess of $20 grand. One check for 15 and another for 5 or 6.

lilpup · December-07-09, 12:21 PM

$595 at Gucci, $800 at Omaha Steaks - over $3k in "incidental" spending in a single month - must be nice being a felon in Texas

lilpup · December-07-09, 12:23 PM

another pleading of the 5th regarding a $10K cashier's check

**1KielsonDrive** · December-07-09, 01:23 PM

Send him back to jail, NOW! He'll only do more harm out on the streets.

**detroitbred** · December-07-09, 01:48 PM

Lying, cheating, stealing P O S

**Maof** · December-07-09, 01:50 PM

makes me wanna vomit!

**smogboy** · December-07-09, 02:44 PM

I still do not understand this man and his habits one iota.

The man lost his job here in Detroit in disgrace. He got convicted of a felony, spent some time in jail, and got rode out of town on a rail for all intents & purposes. And he's still spending money like he's got an endless oil well pumping out the dollars for him. He's damn lucky that Pete Karmanos had pity [[or is it payback?) on him and gave him a job where he could earn an income to support his family. He must know that he's on the short leash at that job. I wonder how they're putting this down for his absence from work- is it a personal day? A medical leave?

His arrogance to spend on Gucci, plastic surgery, golf, his rental mansion, and Lord knows what else just shows us all how disconnected he is with the majority of us. He must think that he's got guaranteed income for the rest of his God given days; he's spending money like there's no tomorrow know darn well that he still owes restitution.

If I were in his pink gators, I'd be more worried about being frugal because I wouldn't know where my next paycheck is coming from. Has his lawyer presented him with a bill for his services yet? All of this jetting back & forth between Detroit & Texas for court appearance can't be cheap either. Where does this man think his money is coming from??

**smogboy** · December-07-09, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by detroitbred

Lying, cheating, stealing P O S

You're being far too kind to KK.

lilpup · December-07-09, 03:29 PM

Another perjury charge in the making?

**Maple Leaf Rag** · December-07-09, 03:39 PM

"If I were in his pink gators..."

Now that Nate Abraham don't need 'em anymo

Buy American · December-07-09, 03:44 PM

thug KK raped and pillaged the Detroit taxpayers the entire time he was in office. He is still raping and pillaging the taxpayers now. He is cocky, has a 'tude, and thinks he's going to walk away with nothing more than a slap on the wrist. I certainly hope the Judge doesn't let him get away with it one more day!

**daddeeo** · December-07-09, 03:58 PM

Don't let him out of town!!
He can obviously afford to pay more than $6,000 a month the way he's been blowing money.
Guys been blowing smoke up the judge's keister.
Make him pay.

**detroitbred** · December-07-09, 04:07 PM

BOHICA, citizens of the City of Detroit [[ bend over, here it comes again ).

**Bobl** · December-07-09, 05:04 PM

Keeping the court waiting. Twenty minutes late from lunch. Classic!

**wazootyman** · December-07-09, 05:09 PM

...and the hearing really peaks at around 5 o'clock.

Judge Groner telling Michael Schwartz to just sit down...priceless.

Kwame's reaction to Judge Groner's request for a more substantive letter...classy. "Mr. Kilpatrick, watch your mouth. This is a courtroom."

Every day I watch this, I despise the man a little more. Is there anyone truly behind him anymore? What a cocky, arrogant ass.

**Ray1936** · December-07-09, 05:15 PM

Watched the streaming video this afternoon. Priceless! His rambling responses to "Yes" or "No" questions leave me wondering how he ever got a law degree. The man's an idiot.

I sure wish I heard what he uttered under his breath when he left the stand that made the Judge warn him as he did.

**unclefrank** · December-07-09, 05:37 PM

I always thought that he was the true spawn of Idi Amin.

**pffft** · December-07-09, 05:47 PM

According to the News reporter's blog, Kwame "chuckled" when he mumbled something, which led to the rebuke from the judge:

http://apps.detnews.com/apps/blogs/newsblog/index.php

Buy American · December-07-09, 05:47 PM

I sure wish I heard what he uttered under his breath when he left the stand that made the Judge warn him as he did.[/quote]

He said something to the effect of "yeah, okay" and the judge caught it immediately. The Judge has had it with this idiot and I certainly hope he doesn't cut him more breaks. You or I would be in the slammer without question!

**Just Amazed** · December-07-09, 07:24 PM

His plea agreement stated he was to turn over his Retirement funds and Income tax refunds, his charitable funds, Kwame got his retirement fund on 10-20-08, and didn't understand his tax refund counted, and used his charitable fund whatever way he wanted. OMG, he just thought he was going to do whatever he wanted. And where did he come up with the line about his kids being on probation

After Spada grilled him some more about why he didn't disclose his wife's assets, Kilpatrick said: "So are my kids on probation now, too?" [[copied from freep)

His kids had nothing to do with it and if he thought he might get some sympathy by throwing them in I have news for him, it just makes him look stupidER. As a matter of fact everything he did today made him look pretty stupid. And what arrogance coming back late from lunch, not suppling the Judge with sufficient proof regarding his meeting, uttering under his breath to the Judge and continually not answering the questions with a Yes or No. I can only hope the Judge does something. But being as this is a restitution hearing all that can happen here is that the Judge says Kwame has the means to pay the restitution and make him pay it.

I am not in the legal field so perhaps someone else knows, probation violation, perjury, anything else in relation to what has happened in this hearing would require further motions, charges and court hearings wouldn't it?