N.Y. Terror Trials

[elganned]

Elganned...close, but missing the vital piece...Individual liberty via property rights.

Cc, do you even bother to read the posts you're allegedly responding to?

Individual liberty via property rights has some direct impact on holding people indefinitely without trial? How so?

[ccbatson]

The subject referenced was the "all men created equal" phrase Elganned.

[elganned]

And the "all men created equal" phrase was in support of not holding people indefinitely without charges, so we return to the original question:

What impact does individual liberty via property rights have on holding people indefinitely without trial [[or charges, for that matter)?

[rb336]

What I will never understand is why the right wing freaks insist on glorifying these thugs by treating them as warriors via military tribunal.

[elganned]

Because they know they don't have any real evidence, so they have to cobble together some sort of rump "tribunal" to try them where the rules are looser and they can justify their [[the govt.'s) actions ex post facto.

[ccbatson]

Thugs? Talk to an Israeli regarding terrorist acts like suicide bombings...better yet, visit Israel for a month or so, and then see if you think these are just "thugs"

[elganned]

Red herring.

Since none of the Gitmo detainees were picked up in Israel, nor detained for committing acts in Israel, whatever does or doesn't or did or didn't happen in Israel is irrelevant to this discussion.

BTW, since you seem to have missed it during your speed read, I'll repeat my question: What relevance does individual liberty via property rights have on detaining people indefinitely without charges?

[ccbatson]

Different issue...the point was whether terrorists are just thugs, or something far worse and more [[which is what my example illustrates).

[elganned]

Well, since no evidence has yet been produced that these individuals are indeed terrorists, your point is moot.

[ccbatson]

Confessions and evidence abound [[btw, this is according to Eric Holder)....the issue is not the evidence, but the venue for the nature of the action.