30 Clifford burned for "Red Dawn"

[jcole]

Isn't that a cross at the very top center? No one has mentioned it yet. It seems an odd building to use as a church. Maybe I'm seeing things.

IIRC, in the original Red Dawn the local high school football team was called the Wolverines.

It was 'dressed' like that to be in the movie 'Eight Mile'. See Diehard's post above

[gumby]

If I had a dollar for every forum I visit where someone isn't grousing about the forum golden olden days where everyone knew what they were talking about... whereas now a'days everyone doesn't.... I'd be rich.

Most all Forums have always had their share of [[[[[[[[[s as well as intellectuals... and likely always will.

For those who think that earlier times were somehow more intellectual, more genteel and civil... may I suggest the movie "Pleasantville"....

First off Gistok that is not what I said, I was grousing about the knee jerk reactions that some of these morons have about a movie being filmed, but now that you mention it we used to get actual inside information from people in the know. Now we get idiots who hung out in a luxury box at a Tigers game talking to Matty Moroun about a Mike Ilitch building. Yeah real step up there. Ask Ndavies about the Vinton Building now and see if you get a response... Ask Skulker about the innerworkings of the BC deal, oh wait he is no longer here. I realize we have always had our [[[[[[[[[s here [[Brian and Rasputin were some of the biggest [[[[[[[[[s ever) our intellectuals just don't stack up like they used to.

[FlyingJ]

EastsideAl, I hope they broke the news of what GM did to Poletown real gently. I also don't want to invoke the implosion of J.L. Hudson's hurtling asbestos chunks into the faces & lungs of Detroit denizens. I also don't care to remind you these epic chases & explosions were done in Downtown L.A. ALL THE TIME. It was a sorta sunkissed Cass Corridor until that gentrification kicked in, then people in 400K condos don't wanna hear buses blowing up @ 3 AM. They're also herding the homeless to the "L.A. River" but that's neither here nor there. Any new business in Detroit is good...rebate or no, & if you didn't complain when they blew up the " Idle Hour Laundry" beneath the Ambassador Bridge in "Hoffa" why are you bitching now?

[1KielsonDrive]

Pcm, # 47 is funny. I posted about DG on the UA link here. I handled my comments about DG in a pretty nice way considering..........

[1KielsonDrive]

Rest assured that dump of a building in a corner of downtown is still standing.

Thanks for your humour, EastSider. No I didn't read the previous post you alluded to. It doesn't matter - my point is still the same : I've inspected a zillion buildings, for my own and other's use, in and around downtown over the last 25 or 30 years. Every one was sold, preparing to be sold, sold, was tentatively sold or some such SOLD bullshit. 99.99 per cent of them are still sitting vacant, repossessed, unused or whatever. It's because of owner's unrealistic, uncaring, deluded attitudes. "What's the asking price?" "I'd take 750 thou, cash". Whaaaaaaa???? "Well, you know, the casinos are only a mile away". Whaaaaaa? "Well, the Super Bowl is coming to town". [[Sung to the tune of Santa Claus is coming to town). I've used this example a hundred times: there's a building on Michigan Avenue near the new transit center. It's been for sale for about 30 years, vacant almost the entire time. The owner's [[a Lincoln Park guy) asking price has been continually rising over the decades. There's a building on Michigan at Corktown that's been on the market for over a decade. I had an agreement with the old guy who owned it to purchase it for a reasonable amount. He told me he was ill and feared his time was coming.Sure enough, he passed over the christmas holiday. I spoke to his son later. His son said, no deal, we're going to rehab it. It's too close to the Casinos to let it go for cheap. That building is still sitting vacant about 8 years later. I could go on but you get the idea.

[1KielsonDrive]

And then throw in that you have to deal with one of the most dysfunctional [[the nicest term I can think of at the moment) city hall in the entire universe, and you have all the makings of Detroit.

[Pcm]

Pcm, # 47 is funny. I posted about DG on the UA link here. I handled my comments about DG in a pretty nice way considering..........

Ha, I haven't been following that thread. What'd I miss?

[stinkbug]

"My problem isn't with the notion of attracting filmmakers to Michigan and the Detroit area, or even necessarily with the use of the building itself, my problem is with setting off giant explosions in the middle of downtown. Isn't there a field somewhere, or a backlot set in California, they could use for shots like this, instead of the middle of a city?

As was seen in the Youtube video, there were people living within clear sight and sound of this [[including seniors in the buildings on Washington Blvd.), and the explosion set off car alarms all over the place. They even did on a Monday when people are out and about, not on a Saturday morning or something. Seems to show a real lack of respect to our city, its residents, and our property to me.

But, hey, maybe I just don't understand enough about filmmaking, what wonderful people those Hollywood filmmakers are, and how fortunate we are to live in a place that people feel just jim dandy about setting off explosives right in the center of"

CAR ALARMS disrupting the peaceful, perfect serenity of downtown Detroit? In my city??! Those filmmakers have a lot of nerve. I hope they didn't bother the local commerce of Capitol Park, ie the lady who offered me anything I wanted for $7.50.
Sure they can come here, but we have to saddle them with restrictions to the point where it would be impractical and stupid to do business here.
Stay away from our abandoned buildings in our ghost town! Take your jobs elsewhere! I don't give a shit if you didn't damage that abandoned heap of a building! You woke up Crazy Screamin' Joe from his afternoon nap in front of the Synagogue!
If I can put this as gently as possible...try not to be so sanctimonious. If people have a problem with it, they'll complain for themselves, they don't need you to. No need to be the champion of the poor and downtrodden...whoever you're advocating for.
We need jobs, and its not as if they're transplanting Zug Island to downtown.

[ScienceFair]

Isn't that a cross at the very top center? No one has mentioned it yet. It seems an odd building to use as a church. Maybe I'm seeing things.

IIRC, in the original Red Dawn the local high school football team was called the Wolverines.

Is it too much to ask to read the entire thread before chiming in? This is one of the most ignorant threads I've seen in a while and that's saying something. The cross is from the fake St. Andrew's hall set they built for filming 8 Mile.

I pass this building everyday on my way to work, it is still standing and there is a security guard on duty 24/7, a luxury that most vacant buildings don't have. There are lots of problems in this city, but believe me, filmmakers are not one of them.

[1KielsonDrive]

The building that was 'exploded', so to speak, is where Griswold meets Clifford, across from the downtown synagogue, the vacant lot that used to be the original Kosin's Menswear, the old Mayfield Chop House [[now a strip club) and the former............ I forgot. Shhhhh..........t. I think it was Quickee's. No, it was Seros. It's now D'Mongos, or something like that. It was Dale and Connie Lindinger's during the early to mid 80's. A great little lunch diner.