DTE *NOT* moving to suburbia

[David L]

How many employees does DTE still have downtown?

[Gistok]

They have 4,800 employees in Detroit. They spent over $50 million in improvements and expansion in their 3 building [2 million square ft.] HQ complex and the blocks around it over the last few years.

Where do you get the impression they are moving to suburbia?

[Gistok]

Downtown Detroit and environs are doing much better now than 20 years ago. DTE built some small parks around their 5 building 2 million sq. ft. HQ office space.

Looking at an aerial view of their campus, the results of their $50 million campus redo really shows nicely...

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3341...!1e3?entry=ttu

The long delayed Leland Hotel on the edge of the DTE campus on their southeast side... needs to be sold to someone who has enough money to do the restoration it deserves. Yes one Detroiter comes to mind. This 20 story building could be another gem like the Book Tower, since it's fancy interiors survive. Leland Hotel was built by famed Chicago movie palace architects in 1927 [which rarely did non theatre commissions] Rapp & Rapp... whose preferred architectural style was called "Rapp & Rapp Versailles". They also did the nearby Michigan Building/former Theatre in 1926. Interior images and story on development delay...

https://www.freep.com/picture-galler...b/10579850002/

But I digress...

[Scottathew]

I've been able to find nothing that suggests that the title of this thread is real.

It's good forum etiquette to create new threads with great care. Provide links to news articles. Provide relevant quotes from the news articles. If you're speculating, state that and your reasons why. Also, the title should match the content.

[admin]

The topic of this thread that DTE is moving to a suburban location is, as yet, unsubstantiated. This thread will be provisionally be left open, in the event of that its claim may be substantiated.

[K-slice]

How many employees does DTE still have downtown?

Where else would DTE employees be working? As far as I know they don't lease any other large office spaces.

[401don]

GM leaving Ren Cen for Milwaukee [[as long as we're making stuff up)

[ParisianLesion]

I work for DTE in a position where I would not only be privy to this information but would be part of the decision making process. No my name is not Jerry Norcia lol.

I can confirm that not only is DTE not moving to the suburbs, the idea has never been floated. We are currently slow walking a required return to the office for many employees, intentionally moving in that direction.

[Gistok]

DTE has patiently anchored the NW section of downtown almost singlehandedly for decades. With the sea of empty lots west of them now taken up by the massive well maintained MGM Detroit Casino, and with Stephen Ross's new development pending across Grand River from them, things are only looking up for their part of downtown.

As I said, the only drawback has been the Leland Hotel, that needs someone like Gilbert who has the deep pockets to redevelop it. Unlike the Book Cadillac, which even renovated is but a shadow of its' 1920s beauty, the Leland has the potential to be restored to 100% of its' 1920s French Renaissance glory.

[ABetterDetroit]

Uhhh. Does this thread mean we can now start making up anything with a [unsubstantiated] after it? What could possibly go wrong?

Donald Trump giving up presidential campaign to run for Mayor of Detroit. [unsubstantiated]

[ferndalien]

the Leland has the potential to be restored to 100% of its' 1920s French Renaissance glory.

You can restore the ballroom/sewer where City Club is when you pry it from my cold, dead, goth hands...

[sirrealone]

The obvious joke here is that they'd be moving because the current location has too many power outages.

[Jimaz]

The obvious joke here is that the main reason for the move would be that the current location has too many power outages.

I was surprised to hear on the radio this morning that Michigan is fifth in the nation for power outages. I knew it was bad but didn't think it was that bad.

Correction: They might have said sixth in the nation. Not sure.

Also, Michiganians lose power for an average of 15 hours per year. Nationwide that figure is 7½ hours per year. Louisiana is the worst.

[Gistok]

I was surprised to hear on the radio this morning that Michigan is fifth in the nation for power outages. I knew it was bad but didn't think it was that bad.

Yes... it has gotten worse in the last 10 years. Here in St. Clair Shores we seem to get them at least every other year. Many residents here have purchased generators to bypass outages. My sister/niece who live 1/2 mile from each other in Fraser, have shared purchasing one, in case one or the other's neighborhood loses power. Last week it was my sisters neighborhood that lost power.

One of the strange thing about having many homeowners owning generators here in SCS... is that during major storms, what sounds like distant lawn mowers is heard during the outages, by homeowner generators all over the neighborhoods.

[Jimaz]

... My sister/niece who live 1/2 mile from each other in Fraser, have shared purchasing [a generator], in case one or the other's neighborhood loses power....

Now that is really smart. Half the cost for virtually the same protection.

[Richard]

Yes... it has gotten worse in the last 10 years. Here in St. Clair Shores we seem to get them at least every other year. Many residents here have purchased generators to bypass outages. My sister/niece who live 1/2 mile from each other in Fraser, have shared purchasing one, in case one or the other's neighborhood loses power. Last week it was my sisters neighborhood that lost power.

One of the strange thing about having many homeowners owning generators here in SCS... is that during major storms, what sounds like distant lawn mowers is heard during the outages, by homeowner generators all over the neighborhoods.

Thats a generator theft trick here,steal a lawn mower,keep it running while swapping it out with the generator while people are sleeping.

Make sure to remind her not to have it running in the garage or enclosed space,sounds silly but there always seems to be carbon monoxide poisoning deaths related to generators and power outages.

[Trumpeteer]

Thats a generator theft trick here,steal a lawn mower,keep it running while swapping it out with the generator while people are sleeping.

Make sure to remind her not to have it running in the garage or enclosed space,sounds silly but there always seems to be carbon monoxide poisoning deaths related to generators and power outages.

Those type deaths are almost always from the use of portable generators. I believe we're talking the larger Generac type outdoor units here.

[jcole]

I really doubt that because how would you move a full size generator from one town to the next every time it was your turn?

Those type deaths are almost always from the use of portable generators. I believe we're talking the larger Generac type outdoor units here.

[Trumpeteer]

I really doubt that because how would you move a full size generator from one town to the next every time it was your turn?

You apparently didn't understand my comment. Richard mentioned carbon monoxide deaths and I replied that those are from PORTABLE generators. I then said that I believe we're talking about full size Generac systems here!

[Jimaz]

To give credit where credit is due, DTE does seem to go overboard warning people about the carbon monoxide risks of generators during outages.

I wonder if it would be worthwhile to require generator manufacturers to include a CO alarm in their design? Or maybe they already do. It would seem common sense.

[Trumpeteer]

To give credit where credit is due, DTE does seem to go overboard warning people about the carbon monoxide risks of generators during outages.

I wonder if it would be worthwhile to require generator manufacturers to include a CO alarm in their design? Or maybe they already do. It would seem common sense.

For portable generators that you are dumb enough to use inside you can buy a CO2 monitor for about $30 from Home Depot. Larger permanently installed Generac type OUTDOOR generators, a CO2 monitor is not needed and makes no sense.

[KnnNike]

The obvious joke here is that they'd be moving because the current location has too many power outages.

Lol, power outages are so much worse in the suburbs than the city. Yes, good joke.

My wife works for DTE, and we live 2 miles east of downtown. I for one am glad that she doesn't have to reverse commute to a depressing suburban hellscape.

[Gistok]

Lol, power outages are so much worse in the suburbs than the city. Yes, good joke.

My wife works for DTE, and we live 2 miles east of downtown. I for one am glad that she doesn't have to reverse commute to a depressing suburban hellscape.

Many of us who live in this suburban hellscape of which you speak [I at 11 Mile & I-94], find that in some places [far east side here] the hellscape of the city looks very much identical to the hellscape of the inner burbs... major exception being the number of retailers.

The major 'raison d'etre' for this forum is to bring people together, rather than badmouth which part of greater Detroit we live in...

[takascar]

Many of us who live in this suburban hellscape of which you speak [I at 11 Mile & I-94], find that in some places [far east side here] the hellscape of the city looks very much identical to the hellscape of the inner burbs... major exception being the number of retailers.

The major 'raison d'etre' for this forum is to bring people together, rather than badmouth which part of greater Detroit we live in...

Stop badmouthing Harper Woods

My brother lives around 11 and I-94 as well and has had
several outages in the last year. Some are due to weather, but
not all of them.

I remember when I lived on the east side of Detroit [[Warren and Outer Drive) when I was growing up. We very rarely had
an outage and that equipment, including some of the poles were ratty looking, but robust. We hung off of the Wayburn substation [[DC-1183-WAYBURN - I think was the circuit ID).

When we moved to 14 and Groesbeck, all you needed was a stiff breeze and the lights were out for hours. I think they also
had some serious problems with the 14 Mile substation as well [[14 just west of Groesbeck by the railroad tracks).

[Gistok]

^ Ditto here... lived in Balduck Park area on the far east side... and I don't recall any outages as a kid... we even had all the Elm trees back then. Now in SCS outages seem like an annual event!