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    Default Court: No Warrant Needed for Cellphone Search at Border

    Be aware.


    Court: No Warrant Needed for Cellphone Search at Border
    They don't even need suspicion you've done anything wrong.
    This is a good reason to leave your phone at home when crossing borders.

    But is that the way we should have to live?

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    I sleep better at night knowing the federal government is protecting me,they are my hero’s.

    Cell phones are no different then having a ring camera,digital connected home camera and security system,smart TV,Alexa or even a roomba vacuum cleaner everything you say or do can be used against you in a court of law or provide hours of pleasure for some pervert sitting behind a screen monitoring it all.

    It would be cool if some youngster AP builder could make one that could be installed mission impossible style,here officer let me enter the code in for you so your job is easier.

    All that is not different then then the whole - I smell weed in your car I am going to search it,we are quickly becoming the enemy we oppose.

    Just leave your phone at home and travel with a burner phone and load it up with pictures that show you bent over mooning.

    All this really catches are the morons anyways,somebody looking to do harm is not going to be that stupid and cross the border with details of the next terrorist bombing plot on their phone.

    Just like the FBI chick that was busted with phone numbers of bin laden terrorists on her phone that were under surveillance and she had kept all of the records of their investigations at home on electronic devices.

    The lines between who is the good guy and who is the bad guy became blurry back in 1938.

    Did you see where they busted the guy that was selling encrypted cell phones and flipped him to supply all the major players across the world with them while the feds were monitoring it in real time.

    FBI is supposed to be domestic but they are playing a worldwide game and taking people out no different then the CIA.

    Cell phone is no different then a land line,the same rules apply,do not say,store or do anything on them that you do not want the world to see,because they can anyways.

    The example used in the video,like nobody is going to suspect a taped up pressure cooker as containing something it should not be when crossing an international border.

    Lots of space under an RV that has public excess,gee how did that get there,it’s not mine,makes for a better case then going through all of that to go out of the way to conceal something.

    Even worse with an RV considering they were perfect to move weed around the country - back in the 70s

    So you gotta figure crossing the border in a RV is going to be a guaranteed scrutiny check.

    See that is the difference,I know all of that because I read a lot of books,when you look at removing the privacy from millions in order to catch a few low level scumbags,you are not looking to make people safer,you are looking at overturning every rock possible for ways to systematically bring every citizen under total governmental control.

    The dangerous ones that seek to do us harm or the ones that do it for a living or a cause,are not that stupid,so the target is aimed at everybody but the ones that seek to do us harm.

    That’s why they were able to do us harm.

    As a private individual I can subscribe to a private satellite company and for a monthly fee I can watch you from anywhere in the world with the ability to even look for dust on your shoes,from the moment you leave you house,while you are In your house I can watch every move you make through your own security system,I say I but not meaning me personally.

    The British tabloids paid a hacker to excess the cell phones of politicians and listen to their conversations in real time,Russia has been in and out of our most secure governmental systems so many times we could erase our national debt by just charging them a $1 entry fee.

    Welcome to the age of technology,where you have zero expectations of privacy anywhere or anyplace,do you feel safer ?

    In 2021 75,000 Americans died from fentanyl overdoses,all of that came across the border along with tons of other drugs that are killing Americans on a daily basis but let’s make it a priority to have the ability to search every private citizens phones on the off chance they may have some kiddy porn or a personal use weapon for protection while coming out of Mexico a place where the police are just as bad as the cartels.

    Its perfectly okay to carry a load of government supplied weapons into Mexico to supply the cartels,just do not bring one back.

    Peoples stupidity is what is giving the feds freedom over our freedoms,look we caught a pervert at the cost of millions of taxpayer dollars and while we were unraveling the tape in order to discover the ammunition that was concealed in the pressure cooker so you can be safer,a cartel member drove right on by with 100 pounds of fentanyl in his/her/it/thems trunk.
    Last edited by Richard; June-21-23 at 11:00 PM.

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    It's a pain in the neck, but the safe thing to do:

    1. Make a backup of your phone. Either to the cloud or locally using iTunes.
    2. Create a second google/apple ID you don't plan on using much
    3. Factory reset your phone
    4. Set it up using the second ID
    5. Cross the border
    6. Factory reset the phone again and set it back up with your regular ID

    You can save the login credentials for the second ID and reuse it every time you go through the border to save a bit of time.

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    They would be bored to death searching my phone, can I get arrested for that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CassTechGrad View Post
    They would be bored to death searching my phone, can I get arrested for that?
    Lots of cats and dogs on my phone. I generally don't like people so I don't have any of those.
    It's funny watching those border security shows how many people say they are not coming into Canada or the U.S. to work, strictly for vacation, and then they look at their text messages discussing where, when and how much for the job they are starting.
    Last edited by 401don; June-22-23 at 09:33 AM.

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    This ish is getting out of hand...

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    This old thread discusses how they have jurisdiction over most of Michigan. So I guess even leaving your phone at home wouldn't protect you.

    It sure would be nice to be able to strongly encrypt the whole phone in a DIY fashion so that you could know there weren't any backdoors for the LEOs. But somehow I think that feature is reserved for the most heinous of criminals, not law abiding folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CassTechGrad View Post
    They would be bored to death searching my phone, can I get arrested for that?
    Ditto

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimaz View Post
    This old thread discusses how they have jurisdiction over most of Michigan. So I guess even leaving your phone at home wouldn't protect you.

    It sure would be nice to be able to strongly encrypt the whole phone in a DIY fashion so that you could know there weren't any backdoors for the LEOs. But somehow I think that feature is reserved for the most heinous of criminals, not law abiding folks.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sg1Fbt...BjZWxscGhvbmUg

    Gangsters’ secret encrypted phone app was really run by the FBI

    They do not even play fair anymore.

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    From the Cato institute

    Nearly a Third of Gen Z Favors the Government Installing Surveillance Cameras in Homes

    https://www.cato.org/blog/nearly-thi...ance-cameras-1

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    Next up, automated speeding tickets:

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/pol...s/70182348007/

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