Michigan Authorities Upset About Ohio Train Derailment Clean-Up Coming Here

[royce]

Maybe I missed something, but why all the "fake" outrage over the contaminated materials from the clean-up from the train derailment in Ohio? Aren't the companies in Romulus and Van Buren Township equipped to handle such contamination? If they were called by the EPA to accept the clean-up, were they supposed to say no? Don't they get paid for handling contaminated material? Didn't local authorities give these companies their approval to handle contaminated materials such as the material from the derailment clean-up? Why would local officials need to be notified of "this" clean-up if they gave the two companies approval to handle contaminated materials? Can someone please help me make sense of this issue/non-issue?

[Richard]

EPA has taking it over so now where it will end up nobody knows.

I would be concerned that they are putting it into a deep injection well.

Mostly so because there are contaminated soil burning facilities across the country that were built to dispose of the contaminated soil from the leaking fuel tanks.

What is even more concerning is why republic waste has deep injection wells,but then again nat gas is hated and that is what they use in the contaminated soil burning facility.

Have we not learned by now every time we bury something in the ground it comes back to bite us in the ass in the future?

Deep injection wells are environmentally unfriendly for fracking but they are environmentally friendly for filling with toxic waste.

You just cannot make some of this stuff up.

If republic has deep injection wells there,you already do not know how much toxic crap has already been dumped down them.

[Gistok]

^ I wonder if that deep injection well or wells is where they disposed of many hundreds or thousands of tons of PCB contaminated soil from the bottom of the St. Clair Shores Lange/Revere canals about 1 mile from me, when PCBs from buried transformers [that cannot be located] kept leeching into over the last 22 years?

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...hope/71290054/

[Richard]

PCBs are in heavy concentration in transformers,but they were used in a lot of things,to me anyways that sounds more like a collection point where multiple contaminated water flows met creating that pool.

1 in 7 deep injection wells fail or are leaking,they already know that,when the walls leak,the passing ground water has a sucking effect and draws the contamination up and out of the well,Kinda like using a vacuum cleaner.

You can have a gas station with leaking fuel tanks where the ground water trace path led up to 5 miles away from the source,because the flow of the ground water carried it that far.

Sense the ground water flows from high ground to low ground naturally it will end up in the rivers and streams.

Up until 2012 we have injected over 70 trillion gallons of toxic waste into 680,000 deep injection wells.

Injection wells are used because it is cheaper then burning the soil and contaminants in special built incinerators.

It is cheaper in cash up front,but considering the health risks of an entire city with hundreds of thousands of residents that will suffer long term health issues,it is not.

Just blame it on the lead,because if that is what you are looking for,that is what you will find,that’s what they do,they weigh out how many lives will be effected or were,verses what it would cost to prevent it from happening in the first place or what it would cost to prevent it from happening again in the future.

1 leaking well contains enough toxins to contaminate a large city.

Us running out of water in the future is not the concern in the next 10 years,we will still be surrounded by water,but you will not be able to drink it.

The plus side is,we will have plenty of charging stations for EVs,but the one thing that we actually need to survive,water,is at the bottom of the save the planet charade.

That should be priority one,Flint was a wake up call and a window into the future,it was offset by bottled water,but when there is no safe water left to bottle,your kinda screwed.

In this case the EPA has taken over the disposal of the contaminated soil,which takes the burden off of Republic waste disposal services and Michigan can breath a sigh of relief.

They forgot to tell you that the EPA does not have deep wells,they contract it out to companies like Republic.

What they did was remove the liability from Republic and the state of Michigan and said,if something were to happen in the future it will be on the Federal government to fix it.

I guess it does offer a level of comfort when you are dying in the hospital at least you will have the federal government at your side offering its condolences.

Probably now would be a good time,while all of this free money is floating about,to ask the state for an honest assessment of all deep wells holding toxins,before and not after something happens or could already be happening.

[Henry Whalley]

Probably now would be a good time...

tldr

[Richard]

So they diverted the toxic soil to a soil burning facility in Liverpool Ohio where local residents are protesting under concern of toxins being released into the air in the process.

I would hate to be toxic waste,nobody wants you and there is no place to go and nobody wants to stop using the products that create it in the first place.

[royce]

Yeah, nobody wants toxic waste, but they voted people into office who approved of the facilities that deal with toxic waste. People need to know what their local officials are doing. This is old rhetoric. You snooze you lose.

[Richard]

Well,if we were smart like Canada we would be dumping it off on other countries and make it their problem,thats what 3rd world countries are for,nobody cares,probably why Canada ships all of their single use plastic to use to dispose of,that contains toxins,they view us as the closest 3rd world country,even spent billions on a new bridge to make it easier and quicker to move it.