I Hate Hamtramck Nazis

[Henry Whalley]

Good call on Ralph Bunche. People who should be lionized and revered, usually aren't.

| Harvard Magazine

Reading about Ralph Bunche's life and accomplishments leaves me in awe at how much one man can do in a lifetime. There are many wonderful photographs to be found on the web.

[Richard]

I've seen this movie before. Trump refused to denounce the Proud Boys and Antifa. What's the difference? DeSantis probably does stands with them. This country is getting worse by the minute.

The flip side of that coin was you had a political party call for violence against the opposition while they were in public,and refuse to condone violence in the streets and cities burning in a re-run of the night of broken glass, we have seen that movie before we have also seen how people thought it was justified because it did not involve them and it was against those who they felt and continue to feel are sub human.

That’s like me saying I think you are a Nazi supporter and just come on the internet and pretend that you hate them in order to drawn attention away from yourself,even if you denounce them it will not change my views on you,it’s totally irrelevant if you are or not or even if the true meaning it applies.

To me most use the word in order to desensitize the public to the true events,in order to make it look like it was no big deal and a perfectly acceptable way of dealing with those you do not like.

the walk of shame is how it seems most would prefer it to be

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AIpjk7TG3Dw

When you attach labels to others in order to provide credibility or garner public support of hated towards those who you deem your enemy, you have become what you are accusing others of being.

This is why the witch burning days were so popular,denounce to the public that you are not a witch or burn at the stake.

Calling others religious zealots while demanding others denounce in public or suffer the consequences.

So do we get to round up all the atheist’s and force them to denounce their religious beliefs until they accept Jesus Christ as their savior?

Yea we have seen that movie before,it was not fiction it was fact,but yet some feel it is their mission in life to keep replaying it over and over.

What about all of the socialists running amuck in this country,the socialist party has a history of supporting brutal dictatorships that sit right next to Hitler and even hired somebody of his worst followers after the war in order to implement the same purges in their country.

It would be nice to be able to round all of them up and send them to the gallows,but as long as they are also citizens in this country,they are also protected by the constitution that rules us,so no matter how much I personally despise them,I am not willing to change that and the very reason this country was formed in the first place.

Which was to escape the tyranny that others are so willing to impose on others.

So like it or not,as much as we despise them and as long as they do not act out on their fantasies,the Nazis,socialists,communists and other groups are allowed a seat at this big table right alongside of everybody else.

Because in order to rid of them,you have to become them.

[Henry Whalley]

The flip side of that coin...

???

[hybridy]

Story has gone national…wonder who’s more happy about it?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...n/11106240002/

[Zacha341]

That came to my mind NOT in sympathy to this particular action but understanding how we've witnessed personal information leaked [including where people work, family members data shared etc] inappropriately. Accusations etc. are easy to let loose -- yet hard to walk-back!

And the forum is ok with someone posting his name and phone number REGARDLESS of your opinion?

[CassTechGrad]

Animal Farm [[1945) by George Orwell
The pigs express the idea that animals have a right to freedom and equality in “a complete system of thought” called Animalism and written as The Seven Commandments. Then as the pigs seize more and more power, they change the Commandments until Animalism is reduced to a single principle which is virtually the opposite original idea: “All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others”

[Richard]

The constitution is pretty clear,all American citizens have the exact same rights and are to be treated equally.

The problem is all you hear is democracy is being destroyed in the United States,it does not matter because we are ruled by as constitutional republic,those in power like vê for people to think we are a democracy so it becomes easy to change the rules.

If people actually followed the constitution and stopped with the democratic manipulation we would have never been had the civil rights trauma,because American citizens are American citizens,the constitution does not allow to single one group out over another.

Take a community where a majority is made up of Middle Eastern immigrants,they came from a country where homosexuals are killed.

So when they are in this country and if they retain that belief would they not find a rainbow flag just as offensive ?

Just as somebody highly religious in this county would.

[Henry Whalley]

The constitution is pretty clear...

SCOTUS decides what the constitution says.

[Richard]

SCOTUS decides what the constitution says.

Yes they interpret the meaning of intent of the original framers.

Our constitutional republic was copied from what was already in place in Venice Italy for 30 years prior,so the intent is pretty clear and tested,it is not like they just sat down at the pub and penned it all out.

[Henry Whalley]

Our constitutional republic was copied from what was already in place in Venice Italy.

Not even close to the truth. Here's the story:

Republic of Venice | Encyclopedia.com

[Richard]

Not even close to the truth. Here's the story:

Republic of Venice | Encyclopedia.com

https://brewminate.com/government-an...n-city-states/

Venice was already an elective form of government in the 1100s,it was not until the wealth came into play which gave a few power that changed the government to their way of benefit,1947 they went back to the constitutional rule.

Some media forms love to say - look the evil power elites ruled the government when they did at times until uprisings forced change.

The first instance of Republic [[elected by people of the land) was indicated in Rome by historians. The aristocrats must have thought of expanding to provide better governments and for the purpose, they would have nominated different people allowing the citizens to elect their favorite representatives into government.


This could be the first form of democracy – government by the people, for the people. Today, most countries are republic – meaning they can elect representatives into the government. There are instances of monarchy too. Even in case of kings/queens, people are allowed to select representatives who'd govern them.

https://www.powercutmedia.com/2016/0...early.html?m=1

Constitutional government is defined by the existence of a constitution—which may be a legal instrument or merely a set of fixed norms or principles generally accepted as the fundamental law of the polity—that effectively controls the exercise of political power. The essence of constitutionalism is the control of power by its distribution among several state organs or offices in such a way that they are each subjected to reciprocal controls and forced to cooperate in formulating the will of the state.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/pol...nal-government

Like I posted the idea of a constitutional republic was not penned out in a pub,it dates back to the Roman times,what the founding fathers did was take the parts that worked and applied them.

Because sense the Roman times it was a constantly evolving form of government that was able to be tweaked.

The founding fathers saw what happened when those powerful enough to tweak the constitution did it to benefit them and not the people,even though they put in abilities to tweak the constitution they made it extremely difficult to do with many checks and balances in place so one form of government could not take total power from the people.

Just because your link picks up 300 years after the first forms of a constitutional government was first established,it does not make it close to the truth.

Notice how your link forgot the part about all of those rich merchants that changed the politics,ended up dead in the streets.Public execution style.

Just as Mussolini did when he changed it for his total
control.

Under a constitutional republic

Follows a written Constitution that protects the rights of the minority from being infringed upon by the majority.

Under a Democracy

Ruled by a majority that enjoys unlimited power. Minority groups have no protection.

While all citizens supposedly have a say in government and are to be treated as equals, the majority often ends up tyrannically ruling the minority.

https://legaldictionary.net/constitutional-republic/


This is exactly why some people constantly pound into peoples heads that we are a democratic rule and we should void the electoral vote,and change the constitution,because that is exactly what they want.

The majority to rule over the minority.

Thats also what the civil war was about,the heavy populated industrial north wanted to dictate to the low populated agricultural south prices when it came to goods.

The north had more people with slaves then the south ever did,it just became came a good rally cry and cause.

What does it have to do with Nazis in Hamtramck? It’s that pesky constitution that everybody loves to want to tweak in their benefit and is the first thing any inspiring dictator does do they can gain total control,the constitution does not allow for that the downside is,we have to deal with things we may not like but if we wish to change that we also have to be prepared for the floodgates opening up and that wrath can just as easily be turned against us.

[Danny]

Will those Neo-Nazi's ever stop! Their Hitler dream for a uber race is over.

Take down that Swastika! It means nothing to America.


'Ich bin ein Hamtramck.'

[Richard]

Will those Neo-Nazi's ever stop! Their Hitler dream for a uber race is over.

Take down that Swastika! It means nothing to America.


'Ich bin ein Hamtramck.'

Unfortunately no,there is always going to be those who live on the fringes of society,get rid of the Nazis then you have to socialists and commies to deal with,it is just not worth stripping millions of their rights in order to deal a few wakos.

It’s akin to burning down your house because you saw a spider in it.

Just ignore them and do not provide them with relevance,they will not go away so why upset your life dealing with it.

If we are going to base it on personal aspects,I personally believe Germany a country should have never been allowed to exist after 2 world wars that cost millions of lives and the level of atrocities committed.

The largest population movement in history was after WW2 when every person in Europe that had any German blood in them,no matter if they were generational removed from Germany, was forced by locals to walk back to Germany with the clothes on their backs even people that had never been to Germany in their lifetime.

My ancestor’s came to this country after being stripped of everything they owned and fleeing persecution,long before Hitler was hatched,just like many others,I know what I would like to do in dealing with Nazis without thinking twice about it,but that constitution wields more power then they will ever,so thats what I have to abide by like it or not.

It was not just the Jews,it was anybody that did not fit the profile of those who decided the parameters of the profile and it was subject to change accordingly,we cannot become that.

[Henry Whalley]

[QUOTE=Richard;631249]What does it have to do with Nazis in Hamtramck?QUOTE]
TLDR

[Richard]

[QUOTE=Henry Whalley;631315]

What does it have to do with Nazis in Hamtramck?QUOTE]
TLDR

As you can clearly see I do not speak or write in acronyms,there was a time when they were popular in the government but now seem to be the acceptable way of communicating.

I guess it makes it easier for me,no point in attempting to master the English language,since most do not seem to use it anyways.

Nazis are Nazis no matter where they reside.

TLDR ?

Teddy Likes Delanor Roosevelt ?

[Zacha341]

^ Uh-I think TLDR means 'Too Long Didn't Read...'