GOP's candidate for Michigan's Secretary of State is Karamo of Oak Park?

[Gistok]

^ you did not know the one sitting on her right was assassinated last night?

Funny how the world leaders that you claim to not like him,are crapping their pants right now under the threat of bombs raining down on them and WW3 ,when if they had listened to him back then they would not be living in fear today.

The look of contempt as you put it is more like a look of what the F*** are we even doing here,because nothing was resolved and sworn enemies were invited to attend,you are really going to invite China and Iran to sit down at the table and discuss climate change and trade.

The only thing Iran wants from us is to trade nuclear weapons,as much as it hurts you,Trump was the most powerful person there in that seating.

Lol at taking a snapshot of a moment in time and translate it into world policy or perception,of course then again context is a foreign concept when it comes to narrative. He’s still your daddy and you could be very well be calling him Mr President again,let that sink in for a moment.

I actually read your post Richard... and I have to agree with others... "word salad" is the best term for your disjointed post.

Yes I know who Abe is, and that he was assassinated yesterday... whatever that had to do with that photo, is probably a mystery to most folks here. I also know that that was Theresa May in the back row, who was dancing yesterday when she found out that Boris Johnson is on his way out at being British Prime Minister. And I also know who Justin Trudeau is [also in the back row]... the Canadian Premier that you like to character assassinate in your long winded posts after he committed the ultimate sin according to you... vis a vis the Pandemic... and that you've been calling him a dictator ever since... which makes for a good laugh on this forum.

And the rest of your word salad paragraphs about Iran and China... no clue to whatever point you were trying to make, except perhaps to practice typing, which you seem to exercise here so often.

[Richard]

^ I figured that news was sad to you as another fascist was removed,Japan has always been a policy of suck it up to the breaking point then it all explodes.

I would suspect that puts part of your income stream at risk should they go the more democratic route which appears to be the way they are headed.

As far as the rest of your comments,I understand,you have been programed to think a certain way and normalcy will never make sense and word salads are just things you cannot comprehend.

Your constant droning on about others who you deem defective in their writings just goes to show how far removed from reality you are,amazing how your biggest complaint is spelling on the internet where others in the world have bombs raining down on them,and even in your own city people are struggling to pay their bills because they are trapped under your mindset.

You may think that is normal,but it is not.

You verified that when you view the removal of every citizens rights as acceptable and justified when if a president did that in this country,it is an immediate treason charge subject to be shot at the stake.

Then you find it so hard to believe people would take issue with that,or you yearn for the days when that is an acceptable practice,I never posted any lies about trudo.

But I have to question,why do you have a Lego Trump on your night stand and not one of Trudoe,it make me think you are showing who your real hero is.

[Zacha341]

It's far worse. Coupled with our increased division, social disintegration, etc. rendering us weak and ripe. For the picking.

From a much larger interest. Waiting. As we fiddle/ faddle.

I totally agree with you. But I think that despite our problems here in the USA and globally... respect for America is better than it was in the recent past. World leaders, and the people, especially Europeans, have a much better respect for America [but with the fear than things could get bad again]... just look at the contempt in the faces of world leaders before...

[Honky Tonk]

I totally agree with you. But I think that despite our problems here in the USA and globally... respect for America is better than it was in the recent past. World leaders, and the people, especially Europeans, have a much better respect for America [but with the fear than things could get bad again]... just look at the contempt in the faces of world leaders before...

[southen]

^ I figured that news was sad to you as another fascist was removed,Japan has always been a policy of suck it up to the breaking point then it all explodes.

I would suspect that puts part of your income stream at risk should they go the more democratic route which appears to be the way they are headed.
…

You verified that when you view the removal of every citizens rights as acceptable and justified when if a president did that in this country,it is an immediate treason charge subject to be shot at the stake.
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You talk about fascism, democracy and the removal of rights yet supports a former president who clearly wanted an armed insurrection on January 6th. Who pushed baseless conspiracy theories about a stolen election despite advisors telling him it wasn’t true. You’re part of a party who stole one Supreme Court seat and whose last three appointed Justices lied on the stand about Roe and precedent, which the country overwhelming supports. One conservative justice, in said ruling, is setting the stage or overturn marriage equality, because, you know, freedom. Your party consistently tries to make it more difficult to vote all in the name of non-existent “voter fraud.” Throw in the fact that your party has won the popular vote once in the last 8 presidential cycles and it is pretty laughable for you to accuse anyone on the left of being fascistic or anti-democracy. Just about everything your party has done in the last several decades has gone against the will of the voter in this country and now with an evangelical bench you are looking to roll back rights. Tell me again how you support democracy?

[Zacha341]

A look at both SOS Candidates:

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-go...-michigan-2022

https://www.businessinsider.com/mich...crifice-2022-7

Less than four weeks remain until statewide primary election...

[Rocket]

The disgust you expressed for Biden’s choice of an unaccomplished "colored female" for VP was part of a love filled-post, yes, I concur. You have my full support.

Well, it was then candidate Biden that said those were the reasons he was picking her.

Do you think she is qualified? [And no, sleeping with a dirty old married man more than twice her age isn;t a qualification, nor does getting elected senator and serving part of one term. It just means she had political connections. Now, if she had accomplished something great as senator, that might be a different story. ]

Perhaps you consider her putting a vastly disproportionate number of blacks in prison in Cali is a qualification?


Anyway, now that she's been VP for a year and a half, do you think she's doing a good job?

[Rocket]

Geeze Rocket Man... the Newbie who has only been here 1 year, and is telling other old timers what to do...

Negative.

I was asking.

It's OK to ask, then say thanks after just a year I hope?

[southen]

She is under qualified since the new standard appears to be being a reality television star who pays off pornstars, has credible accusations of assault while admitting it on tv, was pals with Epstein, cheated on every wife he’s had, lies about their wealth and has bankrupted several business while defrauding folks with a fake university. Oh and you can throw in the Central Park 5 and the racist practices of his housing developments. She sure does come short of that being a lawyer and Senator who can speak in complete and coherent thoughts.

[Zacha341]

I think this thread is coming to an end...... shortly.

[Zacha341]

Well if you're twisting my arm [smile], in a word: No.

Anyway, now that she's been VP for a year and a half, do you think she's doing a good job?

[Honky Tonk]

She is under qualified since the new standard appears to be being a reality television star who pays off pornstars, has credible accusations of assault while admitting it on tv, was pals with Epstein, cheated on every wife he’s had, lies about their wealth and has bankrupted several business while defrauding folks with a fake university. Oh and you can throw in the Central Park 5 and the racist practices of his housing developments. She sure does come short of that being a lawyer and Senator who can speak in complete and coherent thoughts.

[Gistok]

I've always wanted to post this... thanks for giving me a reason...

[Gistok]

I think this thread is coming to an end...... shortly.

I know... but it felt so gosh darn good!

[Honky Tonk]

I've always wanted to post this... thanks for giving me a reason...

Ok, that's pretty funny...

[Richard]

You talk about fascism, democracy and the removal of rights yet supports a former president who clearly wanted an armed insurrection on January 6th. Who pushed baseless conspiracy theories about a stolen election despite advisors telling him it wasn’t true. You’re part of a party who stole one Supreme Court seat and whose last three appointed Justices lied on the stand about Roe and precedent, which the country overwhelming supports. One conservative justice, in said ruling, is setting the stage or overturn marriage equality, because, you know, freedom. Your party consistently tries to make it more difficult to vote all in the name of non-existent “voter fraud.” Throw in the fact that your party has won the popular vote once in the last 8 presidential cycles and it is pretty laughable for you to accuse anyone on the left of being fascistic or anti-democracy. Just about everything your party has done in the last several decades has gone against the will of the voter in this country and now with an evangelical bench you are looking to roll back rights. Tell me again how you support democracy?

This is another example portraying how confused you really are,I do not support democracy,I support our system of government which is a constitutional republic,that the problem with people like you,you comment and rant about a system that you clearly never took the time to actually learn about and understand how it works.

Thats the problem you are running around thinking and claiming everybody is trying to destroy democracy in a country that is not a democracy.

You should probably learn about it first,forget about how you took everything out of context on your rant,the guy I was referring to,despite the word “liberal party” in his listing,that liberal party is known as the far right party,you know the party that you accuse everybody you do not agree with of belonging to.

Listen closely grasshopper,in case you did not notice with our neighbor in the north,you have no guaranteed rights or protections under a democracy but you do under a constitutional republic,your rights under a democracy can be removed at any point in time,they cannot when you are protected under a constitutional republic.

Because that constitution says so.

So when you keep up with the narrative that everybody is out to destroy democracy in this country,all you are doing is showing how little you understand the system you are governed by.

Democracy does not give you the right to vote,you have that right as defined by the constitution that was amended with the voting rights act.

Something has to actually exist outside of what you think in your mind before you can claim somebody is trying to destroy it.

There are only 3 countries in the world that are governed under a constitutional republic,the rest are democratic which is why some of them have a history of constantly being flipped from being socialist dictatorships to democratic.

Thats why you socialists are pissing in the wind trying in trying to flip this country,the constitution was specifically set up in order to keep the commies,socialists and progressives out of the loop.

As hard as you try,you cannot change that because the oath of office and the military is to protect and defend the constitution of the United States.

[Henry Whalley]

I know... but it felt so gosh darn good!

Too bad there wasn't a gunman on that grassy knoll

[Zacha341]

IMO, there is some confusion on how a solely Democratic system works [which can devolve to mob rule] versus a Constitutional Republic [while not perfect] which has certain checks, balances and amendments. The US CR distinctions are no longer emphasized in K12/ Post Secondary it can be argued.

At basic levels some equate 'republicans' as the fabric of and supporting that restrictive 'republic' thing as it's understood to be [needing to be up-ended anyway]. Whereas the option of being a democrat naturally flows to perceived freedom [democracy]. Therefore majority rule [democracy without checks] is a standard-of-value without question. Interesting how we got here.

And how our state goes forward per these upcoming elections.

This is another example portraying how confused you really are, I do not support democracy, I support our system of government which is a constitutional republic, that the problem with people like you,you comment and rant about a system that you clearly never took the time to actually learn about and understand how it works...

[Zacha341]

We shouldn't even start with memes etc. LOL. They are a-plenty with our current admin - darn scary - witnessed live, now, at the global, not decreasing level.

Ok, that's pretty funny...

[southen]

That is a lot of paragraphs and a clever way not to address any of the points made in my last message Richard. Semantics aside, the form of government is supposed to address the will of the people, not enshrine the minority viewpoint that has high jacked the process and is ruling based on a religious belief, no? Or is that not in the constitution either?

Do any of you actually understand how the world viewed the United States under Trump? You act like Biden is some global laughing joke but Trump was well respected. The world laughed at Trump almost as much as liberals did when his administration was holding press conferences next to landscaping companies and sex shops or when he propped up the My Pillow guy as an advisor. If Joe is a joke Trump was an entire Netflix comedy special.

[Zacha341]

Hah! It's not an Either/ OR construct necessarily.

Trump was a problem, Biden also. Biden IS far worse at just a glance per where we now find ourselves! Yet still receiving a pass at the 'Anything better than Trump' level. Though that's wearing thin as even mainstream media's starting to question policy that can't be justified or auto-pilot affirmed.

They [Trump and Biden] certainly had/ have questionable people in their circles and those they appointed. Yet once loyal Dems are shedding support - and it can't be claimed that only GOP-types are questioning this countries course headings. For many politics started with Trump and end with Biden.

I voted for neither. We do must better or loose much of what we now take for granted. Our folly and confusion is being fully observed and assessed.

[southen]

Hah! It's not an Either/ OR construct necessarily.

Trump was a problem, Biden also. Biden IS far worse at just a glance per where we now find ourselves! Yet still receiving a pass at the 'Anything better than Trump' level. Though that's wearing thin as even mainstream media's starting to question policy that can't be justified or auto-pilot affirmed.

They [Trump and Biden] certainly had/ have questionable people in their circles and those they appointed. Yet once loyal Dems are shedding support - and it can't be claimed that only GOP-types are questioning this countries course headings. For many politics started with Trump and end with Biden.

I voted for neither. We do must better or loose much of what we now take for granted. Our folly and confusion is being fully observed and assessed.

Sure, if you ignore the circumstances of how the country ended up here, then yes, taking a snapshot of the current situation doesn’t look good. I didn’t know that we could analyze things like that without broader context. Good to know.

Don’t mistake Dems shedding support with some sort of endorsement of the GOP or that they would not vote for Biden again if Republicans put forth Trump or DeSantis in the next election. What you are seeing is when people of a certain political stripe put their ideals ahead of party. I don’t know a single leftist who is wholly happy with Biden. I am not. But you don’t have to look further than the threads on this website to see the blind loyalty and fervor for Trump or any crazy like Karamo to see that it is party over anything else on the right. You may be the exception but with how the GOP operates it isn’t about the will of the people [[Roe or gun reform) it is about what the party can do to simply win. It’s why in four years of Trump the only accomplishments the administration can claim was an unnecessary tax break and appointing three judges hell bent on removing the rights of anyone who isn’t a conservative Christian.

[Zacha341]

I did not present a snapshot but kept my comments brief as I'm not doing that 20-Paragraph thing. I know the long view. And for sure I look far beyond websites here etc. As a POC [whom this admin claims to champion and so love] for decades I've found it best yet to keep my head-on-a-swivel as it were and watch everyone. Especially those telling me to ONLY look over there for all of the hate, greed, graft, racism, fascism etc. Especially re. policy/ politics impacting Detroit were I live. I made very clear my specific stance on Trump and other political obligations therein -- often applied to my 'group'.

I don't mistake the dem. shedding as an GOP increase. If that's all it took I'd be a repub. and for MANY reasons I'm not. But the break-up of the strong hold - especially the repudiation to all-things-Trump - initially attractive to POC and other oppressed groups no longer falling into line is happening. Indeed the fall-off is good as shedders will invariably ask questions/ mount challenge to and not as easy to shut up as GOP cranks. Further, some will go indy in their voting practices. That'll shake things up towards better policy.

Re. where there are conservative Christians weighing in there are many Muslims concurring at many levels -- especially related to children. I've worked within that community long enough to know this. And there's a move of secularism. Heck, you don't have to be religious at all to apprehend some morality at certain levels of policy and practice. To claim that conservative 'Christians' stand alone in challenging certain rulings/ practice is like ascribing such solely to the GOP.

Yet many will persist with this 'ascribing' [boxing]. I know when to stop debating. Indeed in the short-term the boxing keep things nice, tidy. Even providing the appearance of order where the good people are here and the bad over there. LOL! Where on the other hand individuals are messy [smile] and tend to what's important and of value to them. Beyond partisan labels.

[Wheels]

Here is the difference. You are equating policies that don't align with yours as crazy while ignoring conspiracy theorists and whackjobs in your own party as if they are the same thing. Then again, there isn't a conspiracy theory you don't espouse to so I can see why any comment on a moron in your party would trigger you.

Biden is an example of why you don't elect people in their 70's to the presidency. Same with Trump. Only difference is Biden can actually have a conversation about policy while stumbling over his words. Trump can only talk about crowd sizes while sounding like someone with an IQ of 60. Probably relatable for you, must be why you like him so much.

You might want to back up and check out the large number of conspiracy theories labeled by libtards that have all come true!

[southen]

You might want to back up and check out the large number of conspiracy theories labeled by libtards that have all come true!

Feel free to educate me

I am still waiting to find out if Hillary was trafficking kids in the non existent basement of a pizza parlor. Are you still following those Q drops from the guy trying to drive traffic to his own website?