Monica Conyers runs for Wayne County Exec. despite conviction

[drjeff]

To begin, as a preference, I won't vote for someone who has been convicted of bribery or who is strongly suspected to have committed bribery. The full explanation for why is beyond the scope of this thread.

THAT said, Dr. Conyers, Esq., has a high achieving resume that is to be appreciated, and any snarky and insulting remarks [unless maybe around the bribery issues that she did serve time for and may be considered to have been made to atone for so further snark and insults achieve nothing more of value especially if she has expressed remorse] are uncalled for.

[E.G. "never worked an honest day in her life"]

Monica Conyers - Wikipedia

Back in the day, for a woman, simply being married and having two sons checked the boxes for what she was expected to do. Raising two sons is considered to be hard work.

But, she has achieved further. As according to the Wikipedia article, she completed a four year degree, then obtained a law degree. It is considered to be hard work to finish a law degree.

Special education teachers are in general highly appreciated for what they do. Therefore they are paid a living wage and receive the fringe benefits and pensions that teachers usually receive.

A lawyer is not called Dr. They have not earned that title and it is never used.

[Dumpling]

I looked at the American Bar Association page on the matter. They recommend a lawyer's NOT referring to themselves as "doctor" if they have only earned a J.D. degree [Juris Doctor]. The Bar Association has an ethical obligation against self praise.

In cases where individuals could mistake the lawyer as being a medical doctor the term "doctor" should not be used.

Here on this thread where several have posted with some intent to demean I think it is fine to refer to Monica Conyers as Dr. Conyers [making it completely clear that she has a J.D. rather than an M.D.].

But thank you for bringing the matter to our attention. It does remind me of the flap about the U.S. President's wife's doctoral degree in education.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/natalie...h=1de4b39c6089

[CassTechGrad]

I don’t know weather to laugh or cry but if Mayor Barry can do it then so can Monica

"In 1990 Mayor Barry found himself smoking crack cocaine with a female friend. The room was under video surveillance, so when he was arrested Barry spoke his immortal words—“Bitch set me up”. Even a conviction and a prison sentence couldn’t keep him out of office and in 1994, Barry was reelected to a fourth mayoral term. His campaign slogan was “He may not be perfect, but he’s perfect for D.C.”

[Richard]

I kinda think as a majority,or for the most part,Detroiters tolerance level for that kind of crap has moved past the old days.

There are still a few hardliners trying to stay in power or regain power,but little by little they seem to be getting weeded out.

[Meddle]

A lawyer is not called Dr. They have not earned that title and it is never used.

The word Dumpling is looking for is 'convict'.

[Zacha341]

True. Esq, or counselor but not Dr. without a doctorate degree!

A lawyer is not called Dr. They have not earned that title and it is never used.

[Zacha341]

Uh-oh. Those pesky details such as 'finishing' what you start does seem to emerge. Anyway she needs to move on. I'd not vote for her...

...she never passed the Bar, and never became a lawyer.

So it's a little hard to judge her based on that.

I'm going to guess that being corrupt, racist and crazy in her more recent years will probably carry more weight with voters.

[Dumpling]

O - Kay!

https://www.bankrate.com/glossary/r/...oan%20officers.

[or the deeper dive into all the background]

https://notoriousrob.com/2020/07/a-b...tors-and-race/

Would the esteemed Dr. Jeff and others object to the made up term "Doctist" or similar to refer to all those holding doctoral degrees such as in law and education? Should "Doctist" then refer to ALL those with doctoral degrees that are not in medicine? Which should be "Doctor" and which should be "Doctist"?

People do like to celebrate long years of study with significant intellectual output in realms of knowledge.

Trevor Noah could then address the president's wife as "DOCTIST BIDEN". It won't have the same ring as "DOCTOR BIDEN" which is what I think he used. However the understanding of the accorded respect for her achievements and capabilities would be there!

I'm not committed to the exact term "DOCTIST"...I like the word "SCHOLAR" too but that applies to first graders nicely as well.

But still if you would address Jill Biden as "SCHOLAR BIDEN" or
refer to Monica Conyers as "SCHOLAR CONYERS" the intent of respectful address is there.

We could instead borrow "SENSEI" from the Japanese. It would be cultural appropriation with probable untoward incidents though. So if I would be introducing Jill Biden to someone I would use "Biden Sensei" and in referring to Monica Conyers in this thread it would be "Conyers Sensei".

[Honky Tonk]

O - Kay!

https://www.bankrate.com/glossary/r/...oan%20officers.

[or the deeper dive into all the background]

https://notoriousrob.com/2020/07/a-b...tors-and-race/

Would the esteemed Dr. Jeff and others object to the made up term "Doctist" or similar to refer to all those holding doctoral degrees such as in law and education? Should "Doctist" then refer to ALL those with doctoral degrees that are not in medicine? Which should be "Doctor" and which should be "Doctist"?

People do like to celebrate long years of study with significant intellectual output in realms of knowledge.

Trevor Noah could then address the president's wife as "DOCTIST BIDEN". It won't have the same ring as "DOCTOR BIDEN" which is what I think he used. However the understanding of the accorded respect for her achievements and capabilities would be there!

I'm not committed to the exact term "DOCTIST"...I like the word "SCHOLAR" too but that applies to first graders nicely as well.

But still if you would address Jill Biden as "SCHOLAR BIDEN" or
refer to Monica Conyers as "SCHOLAR CONYERS" the intent of respectful address is there.

We could instead borrow "SENSEI" from the Japanese. It would be cultural appropriation with probable untoward incidents though. So if I would be introducing Jill Biden to someone I would use "Biden Sensei" and in referring to Monica Conyers in this thread it would be "Conyers Sensei".

Makes Sesei to me.

[DetBill]

Democrats are dumb. But you knew that, right?

Yes, only smart people try to destroy our Capital Building and overthrow our democracy because they do not like legitimate election results.

[softailrider]

Yes, only smart people try to destroy our Capital Building and overthrow our democracy because they do not like legitimate election results.

There are a lot of people who do not think that election was 100% on the level. Some of them are smart, some aren't.

[Cincinnati_Kid]

There are a lot of people who do not think that election was 100% on the level. Some of them are smart, some aren't.

Whether some thought the election wasn't 100% on the level, is irrelevant. To storm the Capitol and destroy it because you think you lost is childish and immature. They get another shot in 24. Hopefully they behave this time, but I doubt it.

[Rocket]

To storm the Capitol and destroy it because you think you lost is childish and immature.

Breaking a couple panes of glass isn't what I'd call "destroying the capital".

Let's not pretend this was Minneapolis, Seattle or Portland.

Also, there is plenty of evidence of this being false flag maneuver. Lots of undercover FBI people on site urging people on, and a good number of leftists agitators flown in from around the country yelling at the crowd to "burn it down" etc.

Also what's with Pelosi refusing the security bump you'd normally have when there's a parade or protest going on outside while Congress is in session?

Instead we have video of her security guards holding the doors OPEN for protesters to enter the building? https://nypost.com/2021/01/07/capito...s-video-shows/

[Gistok]

Breaking a couple panes of glass isn't what I'd call "destroying the capital".

Let's not pretend this was Minneapolis, Seattle or Portland.

You forgot to mention Benghazi... 6 House committees by a Republican run House... didn't they know it was just a misunderstanding with the locals? But they won't participate in 1 House committee on the Capitol "tourism visit". Funny that? Richard will be here in 3... 2... 1...

[Richard]

^ no need for my input,you are doing a good enough job making the case for the other side on your own.

You could have the book tower fall on your head and still claim it did not even though there was 20’ high letters clearly spelling out Book Tower.

I hope you are enjoying the war that you guys started at others expense,considering the hundreds of thousands of deaths and millions suffering going on there, kind makes everything else seem irrelevant,not sure how you can even top that.

The claim to fame of starting WW3 adds to your bonus points of Yay we impeached the sucker.

Thats your theme for the mid terms - Storm the capital? Hold my beer - we will show you how to storm an entire nation and do it right,bunch of little wussies storming a capital,if you are going to do it,do it right like we do,use tanks and javelins and if it comes down to it,nukes.

In your sides quest for unlimited power has unleashed an animal that shoots 13-14 year old girls in the legs so they cannot run from them while being raped,innocent civilians with their hands tie behind their back shot in the head simply because they were Ukrainian.

And your biggest concern is your storming the capital narrative?

You are scared of guns,if the right wanted to take over the government in this country,you would not be able to stop them and it would have already happened.

2 years later 1 has been charged with a sedation act,so legally,nobody actually stormed anything,but you guys have already made it clear,legalities have zero to do with anything.

Damn republicans will not pass our pork stimulas package so we can fool the public into thinking the economy is going great,I know lets start a world war,that will pump billions into the economy building weapons.

But will not people die and cities get destroyed in that process,yes but think of the increased ratings come the fall if we win it before then,we will be hero’s,it’s not us dying anyways.

250 years in office Pelosi has never been in any active war zone,but here she is right along side with Schiff smack dab in the middle of Ukraine will knowing full well Putin could have dropped a missile on their head at any given second,that’s desperation at its finest.

Personally I think the progressives convinced her to do it,as bait.

They wanted to burn Ukraine down 3 years ago if it would have helped impeach a president,now they are best buddies because it is a way for them to save face and gain points.

On the list of things to worry about,storming the capital is down under the feet of a centipede,considering the havoc being reaped not only in this country but across the world,all of that has your name written on it in bold letters.

You guys have the badge of honor in bringing something to Europe that nobody has in the last 70 years, all in a desperate attempt to retain power.

Right now on the Russian side only the daily death rate is over 400 per day,during WW2 the death rate for the UK was 300 per day.

on the Russian side only - 45,000 casualties and wounded in less then 60 days.

They can all rot in hell as far as I am concerned and we will not know Ukraine statistics until it is over because you do not want to give the bad new to people fighting against an overwhelming force for moral reasons.

That right there will be written in the history books long after a claim of storming the capital that has never been actually proven.

Instead of doubling down,now is about the time that you guys need to be worrying less about what the republicans may have done or are doing and more about the devastation your choices are wreaking on this country and the world.

People have long memories,even more so the painful lessons they are learning right now,no matter which way they lean,it may be prudent to stop looking like a one legged midget in ass kicking contest and drop the drama so you can concentrate on the task at hand otherwise any inkling of power for your party is going down the drain for a long time.

Thats when you will have truly done you best to destroy “democracy” in this country.

You have the socialists and progressives foaming at the mouth watching the Dems and conservative Dems imploding within,you do realize that if they overrun your party,your only choice will be as a socialist or a republican . God forbid, but it seems like you guys are trying really hard to accomplish that.

Hows that?

[Gistok]

^More word salad... posting is easy... adding logic to make it all sound intelligible requires skill.

P.S. The Book Tower never had any large signage, especially 20 ft. tall letters. Only 1 non-theatre building in city-center Detroit fit that bill... and it used to be an automotive HQ...

[Richard]

^ that’s okay,I am sitting back laughing and crying,laughing while watching you guys self destruct as you still cling to blaming others,and cry over all of the innocent people getting massacred for your games in the process.

If how things are going seems logical to you,maybe you need to relearn the definition of logic.

What are you going to tell Putin,I do not want the nuke dropped on me,the 500lb will work,you get so lost in the semantics that you cannot see the forest for the trees.

If book tower falls on you the height of the signage is going to be the least of your worries and I highly doubt you will have a tape measure on you let alone have the time to verify,I believe in that case your logic will be overwritten by Newtons Law and gravity will not be in your favor.

Thanks for the little Detroit history lesson,appreciate that part

[Cincinnati_Kid]

Breaking a couple panes of glass isn't what I'd call "destroying the capital".

Let's not pretend this was Minneapolis, Seattle or Portland.

Also, there is plenty of evidence of this being false flag maneuver. Lots of undercover FBI people on site urging people on, and a good number of leftists agitators flown in from around the country yelling at the crowd to "burn it down" etc.

Also what's with Pelosi refusing the security bump you'd normally have when there's a parade or protest going on outside while Congress is in session?

Instead we have video of her security guards holding the doors OPEN for protesters to enter the building? https://nypost.com/2021/01/07/capito...s-video-shows/

Breaking a couple of panes of glass? To my recollection, people got killed including a Capitol police officer. Come correct, or don't come at all...

[Rocket]

Breaking a couple of panes of glass? To my recollection, people got killed including a Capitol police officer. Come correct, or don't come at all...

^ No, that was a lie that CNN, MSNBC, Chuck Shumer and Nanci Pelosi told you.

There was only one death, and that was of an unarmed woman who was murdered BY a capital police officer.

[Gistok]

^ No, that was a lie that CNN, MSNBC, Chuck Shumer and Nanci Pelosi told you.

There was only one death, and that was of an unarmed woman who was murdered BY a capital police officer.

And what did your "reliable" news source tell you she was doing when she was "murdered"?

I think P. T. Barnum was right....

[preserve]

how did Monica Conyers become this rant?

[Rocket]

how did Monica Conyers become this rant?

DetBill was attempting to excuse the left's hyper corruption and deadly violence by bringing up the false flag maneuver of 1/6/'20.

[Dumpling]

This is me in Post #18:


THAT said, Dr. Conyers, Esq., has a high achieving resume that is to be appreciated, and any snarky and insulting remarks [unless maybe around the bribery issues that she did serve time for and may be considered to have been made to atone for so further snark and insults achieve nothing more of value especially if she has expressed remorse] are uncalled for.

....and the wording "Dr. Conyers, Esq." is an incorrect construction. I can choose "Dr. Conyers" and be correct. Or, I can choose "Ms. Conyers, Esq." and be correct, but it is not correct to use both "Dr." and "Esq." at the same time. In this case the "Esq." might be preferred since the Bar Association recommends against referring to oneself as "Dr." if one holds a Juris Doctor degree.

[Dumpling]

The word Dumpling is looking for is 'convict'.

On another thread someone brought up Steve Lehto, a "lemon lawyer" partly based in Michigan, who has a YouTube channel titled "Lehto's Law." If you haven't already, watch a clip or two from his channel. They can be informative. In the videos he advocates more for consumers and citizens than for dealers and governments [to be sure, his viewers are less likely to be dealers or governments]. If you are comfortable calling a person like him a "convict" that's your choice.

In real life as opposed to YouTube, in Detroit, lawyers are far more likely to accompany the landlord than the tenant in landlord tenant disputes. This usually does not work out well for the tenants. If you enjoy calling those lawyers "convicts", that's your choice.

In your experience are JD's in Detroit connected with the dealers, governments, and landlords, or do they side with tenants and consumers? Are even those that side with tenants and consumers "convicts"?

Thank you for your further thoughts on this.

[Richard]

I think P. T. Barnum was right....

yes we saw that on a grand scale with the tin foil hat wearing ones pushing a collusion conspiracy