Political correctness - Farmington HS Sub Fired

[Rocket]

Ah so it isn’t the person saying insensitive or bigoted things, it is the person who recognizes it that is the racist. With that logic you really don’t have to admit you’re ever wrong or even care about how something impacts someone else. Bravo.

Incorrect [you're on a roll today].

"IF" someone says something knowingly bigoted, in order to hurt someone else, then that's a problem and needs to be dealt with, and a firing is appropriate.

If on the other hand they say a common phrase in passing, and someone else happens to be offended, [or just pretends to be offended to get victim collateral], then a simple warning will do.

We can't destroy everyone's career just because someone claims to be offended.

The modern lefts "destroy everyone" mentality must be stopped.

This phrase has been used in the last 100 years not for racist purposes, but rather as a substitute for GD, or MF. It's to add impact to the statement, like how people add an F-bomb into a sentence because they want their statement to be more shocking, not because they're actually implying the person they're talking to picks cotton.

This is just another excuse the modern left uses to destroy people. They do it for sport.

We can't allow the left to destroy everything we've worked for centuries to build.

[Richard]

It can be difficult keeping up with you Richard. In other threads, you insist that nobody should assume anything about the Crumbleys because it simply isn’t fair to those individuals. Here you are now making wild assumptions that this child was coached on how to be offended because he couldn’t possible have come to this conclusion on his own. It was somebody in the classroom, a teacher, he’s been conditioned. Another time you mention how African Americans aren’t a monolith and they are quite capable of making up their own minds, but now you are back to claiming they’ve been brainwashed.

Thank goodness you are here to speak for the majority of people over 50. Again, your rules on what is appropriate seem to apply to everyone but you as you flip back and forth from one stance to another.

Actually in that thread some could argue that I clarified my stance adnauseam,but they would also park on the train tracks and get mad when the train hits them.

It does not matter what you say,you are canceled out because you are here telling people how they should think while showcasing your extraordinary powers to go back in time and know exactly what somebody was thinking 60 years ago as to intent.

You are doing that while typing on an electronic device whose raw materials was mined by black slaves,you will get into your car,where it’s raw materials were mined by black slaves,you will put clothes on your back that were made by child labor in Bangladesh,you will watch your smart tv whose raw materials were mind by black slaves.

I am going to go out in a limb and also say 90% of everything in your house was also created by forced labor and child labor.

You can go today and buy a slave on the open market.

You and others are obsessed over something that nobody can turn back time and fix,while doing that exact same thing today,the day you have the power to make change and stop it.

But just like 200 years ago,you overlook slavery because it is beneficial to you,it’s convenient,you lose the right to correct others or accuse them of anything while you are doing the same thing that you protest against .

[Scottathew]

This phrase has been used in the last 100 years not for racist purposes, but rather as a substitute for GD, or MF. It's to add impact to the statement, like how people add an F-bomb into a sentence because they want their statement to be more shocking, not because they're actually implying the person they're talking to picks cotton.

Do you think that people should stop using the phrase "cotton-picking" in this way? Do you think that people who use it at work that way should be reprimanded/coached and told not to use it?

Not trying to prove a point, just trying to get some clarity on your view. I do agree with you that instances like this [saying "cotton picking"], without any other surrounding circumstances, shouldn't be a firing offense.

[Zacha341]

Well the reference of black people and picking cotton has not always been applied as a negative. Reverend Jesse Jackson once said [1984]:

''The Hands that once picked cotton -- will now pick a President.''

[jcole]

But he didn't tell them to keep their "cotton pickin'" hands of the voting machine

Well the reference of black people and picking cotton has not always been applied as a negative. Reverend Jesse Jackson once said [1984]:

''The Hands that once picked cotton -- will now pick a President.''

[Zacha341]

Uh, um - ye-aah. That's why I posted it! It IS an affirmation, not condemnation.

[Danny]

Now hold on just a cotton-pickin' minute!

Careful, we don't say that here! Some DYES members are African Americans.

[Zacha341]

That's telling him Danny [smile]! We ARE here. Black, and not all the same. Hah.

Anyway, back to the specific topic, the PC/ Woke scriptures and laws on what 'specific' words mean [a growing list] is melting down most authentic conversation to address or change much.

There's a claim to want dialogue but not really. It's too much about my way of you're named and defamed.

After all when you hear terms such as 'Words are Violence - Silence is Violence' you see where we are at.

As I said before more people just go underground with their racism fully intact. Smiling politely to keep their jobs or get along.

Or you have the specific person that snaps under the pressure of broad-spectrum judgment with no true redemption or reconciliation offered.

[canuck]

The modern conservative movement has become quite adept at turning any issue around to become the victim. Yes Richard, you are under attack and the victim. The white conservative male in this country has had centuries of hardship and now you have to fight through the San Francisco school board doing something stupid regarding renaming buildings. The horror!

One poster already tried to say that being told that they have privilege was the worst racial slur that there is today and the most racist thing happening in this country. Again, it really is hard to see how your party has almost zero appeal to minorities...

For the record, cancel culture is a problem, period. Lowell put it perfectly when he said that there are teachable moments that we are missing out on in many of these instances. I agree. Sometimes it is completely justified, other times it isn't. It isn't a one size fits all issue. But lets also get away from making this simply a liberal issue as you like to paint it as. Has your boycott over the NFL ended? How about your boycott of MLB after they moved the all-star game? Did you burn all of your Nike apparel after they signed Kaepernick to an endorsement deal or simply throw it all out? Has your boycott of Starbucks ended after they went to the plain holiday cup instead of the one celebrating Christmas?

Both sides do this stuff. It can be worthy of a conversation like, "Do we really need to celebrate the Confederacy with this monuments that were placed decades later to intimidate the black population" or it can be as stupid as a corporation trying to be inclusive during the holiday season and choosing to claim there is a war on Christmas. It is issue by issue and you should treat it as such, but that would require nuance.

Excellent.

[Zacha341]

^ I agree too. Especially the last two paragraphs.

[Henry Whalley]

...Lowell put it perfectly when he said that there are teachable moments...

Agreed, but teachable moments are for parents not for public school administrators who are scared shitless about ruining their own mediocre careers. The real problem is that we expect and demand that teachers and administrators act wisely and rationally in a society that's just stark-raving nuts. The phrase 'cancel culture' was invented by the handlers of Tucker Carlson, and IMHO it doesn't apply to school administrators, many of whom probably go home each night to cry or beat their dogs.

The phrase 'cancel culture' is a pejorative invented by fascists to describe the everyday market choices of individuals and corporations. For instance, I avoid watching movies with actors whom I consider to be bad people. Everyone does this from all across the political spectrum. Some actors are so toxic that they can't find work. It's just the natural result of people making moral decisions and corporations making business decisions -- IOW it's the free market. Calling it 'cancel culture' is an attempt to paint this market behavior as sinister.

Bottom line is that there's no such thing as cancel culture, and I'm all for it.

[Richard]

The modern conservative movement has become quite adept at turning any issue around to become the victim. Yes Richard, you are under attack and the victim. The white conservative male in this country has had centuries of hardship and now you have to fight through the San Francisco school board doing something stupid regarding renaming buildings. The horror!

……..

Southen - if you actually read the link I posted,or even did a little research - that happened in one of the most liberal cities in this country.

So even the far left liberals have had enough of each other.

It had zero to do with that modern conservative movement that you have created in your mind.

My parents were conservative Democrats,nothing has changed in politics outside of the progressive party infiltrating the Democratic Party and gaining strength.

When you talk about racism,it was the Democratic Party that fought tooth and nail to keep the African American community down,then the argument became - That was then the party changed.

How come that does not apply to,as you describe,white conservative males,they cannot change ?

But then again,it was white conservative males that fought for woman’s rights and the African American right to vote and to desegregate.

So if the,as you describe,the white conservative male has always been about freedoms for all,who exactly is it that has not changed?

Do you honestly believe if a democrat feels their child is not being taught right in school they are going to sit down and shut up because they are not a white conservative male?

They are parents before party,schools are there to teach and not indoctrinate.

Ever hear the song -Harper Valley PTA


Parents have been involved in how schools teach their children and what they teach their children long before you or I was born,it has nothing to do with the modern Conservative party,it is their job as a parent to be involved with their childrens learning process.


Here is somebody that has something to say to you,he is anything but a white conservative.

https://youtu.be/XgE3VQk52WY

And another

https://youtu.be/m66rcHzWaPU

And another that is a slave descendant

https://youtu.be/L2fGVbMYp54

let me guess you are going to call them uncle toms.