A possible Amalgamation of Detroit and Suburbs?

[Danny]

I don't think the "great State of Michigan" cares about Detroit having a lost urban core and a declining population.

Most folks there are convinced the state can function just fine without a strong Detroit.

Oh they will. Detroit is Michigan automobile and international trade capital. Lose that base, this Great State of Michigan suffers. Metro-Detroit suburbs needs Detroit for it's regional core. Detroit's loss of population means a loss of business and federal tax dollars. Would not like to see a Detroit with a pockets of ghost hoods.

[Richard]

I don't think the "great State of Michigan" cares about Detroit having a lost urban core and a declining population.

Most folks there are convinced the state can get along just fine without a strong/healthy Detroit.

The reality is the city controls a large part of the voting block,like other dense population centers do in other states,there is incentive to keep it as is.

The easiest solution would be to just switch sides and watch the population and investments double.

Then a few years down the road when the city is cranking,say we changed our minds and switch back,politicians do it all the time,flipping about.

[bartocktoo]

That's not going to happen. Harper Woods is not going to piece of Detroit ghetto hood. But for Harper Woods to be amalgamated to Detroit it's up the people's vote. And so will Highland Park and the rest of the suburbs after we take care of changing the State Boundary Commission's city annexation laws. It does have its flaws when it comes when a city becomes a ghost town.

I've wondered what would happen if Grosse Pointe Woods took on the smaller part of Harper Woods on the east side of the freeway [[they already heavily patrol there, and it is already GP school district), and Detroit the part of Harper Woods on the west. However, the voters would not approve a name change a few years back [[it was going to be renamed something "Pointe"). so I doubt anything like that would happen.

[Henry Whalley]

[[it was going to be renamed something "Pointe")...

Detroit could be called Gun Pointe?

[Richard]

Actually Detroit is losing its game,it has dropped into 5th place in homicides,which is an improvement considering they filled the number 1 spot for so many years.

All told, the most populated cities in the U.S. reported a 33% average rise in homicides between Q2 2019 and Q2 2021. Topping the rankings ahead of Detroit are New Orleans, Cincinnati, Baltimore, and Philadelphia.

https://www.thecentersquare.com/mich...35daac20c.html

Even at that I think as a tourist,I would feel more comfortable going to Detroit verses Portland or Seattle.

[Henry Whalley]

Even at that I think as a tourist,I would feel more comfortable going to Detroit verses Portland or Seattle.

Portland and Seattle have large homeless populations. I'm not a fan of the good book, but I guess Jesus taught that we should take care of the least of them.

[Richard]

^ it goes deeper then that,January to September 6000 cars stolen,the highest in the county,if your car is stolen it is a 4 day wait for the police to show up to file the report.

90% of the stolen cars are found in the homeless camps.

After the recent passing of bills,the police are required to sit in the car during riots,the use of less then lethal methods are banned,your property and businesses are no longer in your control.

Detroit has a rule of law and order and is trying to do the best it can while containing it,there is a difference.

[Zacha341]

Detroit: hardly perfect, but not the full petri-dish full of the rules for radicals crowd - fresh to try out what they've studied, and embodied!

Have said recently often that despite our lumps I'm thankful to live here rather than say Seattle or Chi-town. Have friends in Cali, family in Chitown - they can't wait for their mayor to step off and leave. The defund-the-police is fine so long as YOU don't live in areas were police are needed! Just do your jobs officers. No more is more reasoned, when indeed you may need police services.

Less then 15 years ago their was complaint of not enough policing in the D.

Most of the hands-off, 'defiund-the-police' intellectuals etc. never bother to find out IF their agenda is wanted, or workable. They have a set narrative [fixed] and the madness and lawlessness of the cities conceding is evident.

...Even at that I think as a tourist, I would feel more comfortable going to Detroit verses Portland or Seattle.

[Zacha341]

LOL! Well we get the 'point' that criminals never give up there guns no matter what laws are on the books!

Detroit could be called Gun Pointe?

[Wheels]

Between the guns and the car thefts and the high speed crashes how about

New Jack City ��[♂️

[canuck]

Henry Whalley/ Of
Of course, city council would demand bribes from forestry contractors.

QUOTE=Honky Tonk;618160]Or from the pandas themselves.[/QUOTE]




Yes, in politics, it’s called panda-ring to the masses.

[Hermod]

Detroit wants the suburbs money, not their voters.

[Henry Whalley]

...Detroit City will amalgamate to the suburbs to increase to its population and get more regional funding?

Bad idea, but I wouldn't call it Amalmageddon.

[Danny]

It's could happen if Detroit's population dwindles to ghost town levels.

[313WX]

It's could happen if Detroit's population dwindles to ghost town levels.

You mean it hasn't already?

[Danny]

You mean it hasn't already?

It could, there had been talks.

[7miledog]

Yup, combine Detroit into a tri-county [[Wayne-Oakland-Macomb) "Greater Detroit. Given current and projected populations, the corrupt Detroit politicans would be powerless "back benchers" in the combined council. Do you think the Detroit power structure wants that?

The corrupt Macomb County politicians wouldn’t go for it.

[Gistok]

The corrupt Macomb County politicians wouldn’t go for it.

Now that Macomb County got rid of Anthony Marrocco [powerful Macomb County Drain Commissioner]... and voted in Candice Miller, things have picked up there... although Warren still has some cleaning up to do.

Wayne County still has some remnants of the McNamara political machine, although Mike Duggan appears to be the best mayor Detroit has had in MANY years. And getting rid of Robert Ficano [another part of the McNamara machine] seems to have been a big help.

And Oakland County no longer has L. Brooks Patterson.

[Danny]

The corrupt Macomb County politicians wouldn’t go for it.

It may happen and in return all of their financial debts can be forgiven.

[Danny]

Here what an amalgamated Detroit City will look like.

Pop. 3,700,000

It will be the 4th largest city in the U.S.

It will be mostly white with a few blacks, ethnic races and Hispanics.

Its city councils will be district wards with a mayor.

New city services in be in place.

It's police, fire depts will operate independently within its former suburban communities.

Its school districts will operate independently but will provide 'school of choice options'.

And all financial debts will be forgiven.

[Henry Whalley]

Here what an amalgamated Detroit City will look like...

Detroiters would benefit, but suburban voters won't go for it.

[401don]

Surprised the legs this ultimate fantasy thread has. More likely Michael Jackson will rise from the dead and build his amusement park on the river.

[kuuma]

This idea sounds wonderful in theory - it does feel like the region is a quagmire of fragmented fiefdoms competing against each other rather than looking to a unified vision for the locality, in a place that otherwise absolutely has the critical mass and wealth to succeed with other metropolis-sized regions.

Transforming the administrative hierarchies to be more regionally focused and efficient as discussed here would obviously be a good thing, many of us here understand that, but I fear such a solution would require too many conservative and self-interested parties to suddenly be willing to share hoarded resources in the name of the greater good of the region, and I can't see that not triggering knee-jerk oppositions to "wealth redistribution", "socialism", "job theft", all those familiar and tired scare-phrases that would make such a campaign stalemate at best.

Sadly I think it's Detroit's fate to just grind on its own and succeed in spite of its own suburbs until the sentiment shifts and the Warrens and Livonias start to feel like they're missing out on something.

[Gistok]

Surprised the legs this ultimate fantasy thread has. More likely Michael Jackson will rise from the dead and build his amusement park on the river.

Hehehe... I agree!

[Danny]

Detroiters would benefit, but suburban voters won't go for it.

Even some suburban cities say no, if the majority of the suburbs say yes. The Amalgamation of Detroit will begin.