Construction on East Jefferson

**GPCharles** · October-19-21, 09:28 AM

What's going down on East Jefferson, Dickerson to Conner?

Two weeks ago they tore out and dug up the center lane, what was the turn lane. For the last 10 days not much has happened. Are they extending the landscaped medium that was installed from Alter Rd. to Chalmers, or so, that was done a few years back?

**Jason** · October-19-21, 02:57 PM

I think they're redoing the utilities. There will be a temporary road while they're doing this and then afterwards they'll rebuild the street.

https://detroitmi.gov/departments/de...ordion-23526-1

**Zacha341** · October-22-21, 07:15 PM

The orange barrels persist and there's no one [workers] on site the times I was thru there this week? ---

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**stasu1213** · October-24-21, 10:13 AM

Light rail tracks could be installed in that median for a Qline like train to go down Jefferson to Ashland

**Honky Tonk** · October-24-21, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by stasu1213

Light rail tracks could be installed in that median for a Qline like train to go down Jefferson to Ashland

Sorry Bro', All those semis from the new trucking warehouse are going to need to be able to make a left turn onto Conner.

**Zacha341** · October-24-21, 10:48 AM

^ Right on HT! I've worked in that area and YES, the car haulers are frequent and moving fast, with tight turns as it stands.

Most of the bike-lane markers have been long mowed over flat!

**MikeM** · October-26-21, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

^ Right on HT! I've worked in that area and YES, the car haulers are frequent and moving fast, with tight turns as it stands.

Most of the bike-lane markers have been long mowed over flat!

The car hauler I followed today was going about 20 mph for miles. And despite your claim, I'd say only about one to two percent of the bike lane markers are missing.

To the OP: they are replacing the water main. The entire avenue will be rebuilt in a couple of years.

**Honky Tonk** · October-26-21, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by MikeM

The car hauler I followed today was going about 20 mph for miles. And despite your claim, I'd say only about one to two percent of the bike lane markers are missing.

To the OP: they are replacing the water main. The entire avenue will be rebuilt in a couple of years.

Thanks MikeM, I know. Those trucks have to get out of the warehouse somehow unless they grow wings. I don't want to argue, but take a ride up Conner, there are more than a couple of bike sticks missing, and they keep getting replaced.

**EastsideAl** · October-27-21, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by stasu1213

Light rail tracks could be installed in that median for a Qline like train to go down Jefferson to Ashland

Would definitely be nice. But that would also require vision and an actual transit plan for expanding and making the Q Line and light rail useful, which we don't seem to have.

**kuuma** · October-27-21, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by stasu1213

Light rail tracks could be installed in that median for a Qline like train to go down Jefferson to Ashland

if you want to see a rail component to the Jefferson plan, I suggest writing the project manager – his email is on the last slide of the last community presentation pdf.

I wrote last week while they were soliciting feedback about bike lane designs, and also to urge them to consider rail lines, and he was pretty dismissive. said they did "a study" that found that rail installation would not increase total DDOT ridership on Jefferson, which is not only likely BS, but suggests they're only looking at raw ridership numbers and none of the actual civic, environmental, or social benefits of rail. so they need to hear from as many people as possible til they realize the current plan lacks ambition.

**GPCharles** · October-29-21, 09:18 AM

Noticed this morning - After two weeks of doing nothing, they are pushing the barrels in so that only the center turn lane is closed.

**Meddle** · October-30-21, 12:28 PM

Remember the little airplanes painted on the nose of ace fighter aircraft?

**stasu1213** · October-30-21, 01:36 PM

Whomever were given the contract for paving Jefferson get paid twice for the job. The first time is the temporarily paving and the second time is the developing of the final streetscape. It appear that someone is looking out for a particular paving contractor

**Zacha341** · October-30-21, 02:22 PM

That figures and is not surprising.

Originally Posted by stasu1213

Whomever were given the contract for paving Jefferson get paid twice for the job. The first time is the temporarily paving and the second time is the developing of the final streetscape. It appear that someone is looking out for a particular paving contractor

**MikeM** · November-01-21, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by stasu1213

Whomever were given the contract for paving Jefferson get paid twice for the job. The first time is the temporarily paving and the second time is the developing of the final streetscape. It appear that someone is looking out for a particular paving contractor

Is this just a guess? Or a known fact?

**Zacha341** · October-30-21, 02:19 PM

^ There's no amount of money that would find me cycling for 'transpo' in the city. There are too many crazed, speed mania folk driving obvious to anyone/ thing/ cyclist outside their inner console. I'm not 'anti' car [love the option of driving] but I 'see' how SOME drive!

When I DO cycle for exercise [mostly WSU/ Matthaei Field lots and sidewalks area], or Palmer Park I wear a reflective yellow vest. And never-ever at night. I see drivers violating bike lanes often.