Coldest Weather Outbreak in Over 30 Years......

[Henry Whalley]

Ever notice how the same ones who say it was antifa who invaded the capitol are now claiming it was green energy, not deregulation, cronyism, and corruption that crippled utility infrastructure in Texas?

Having spent as little time as possible there my assessment is that
"Texas isn't the end of the world, but you can see it from there."

[Dumpling]

Richard, your 950 persons per day migration rate might
be a stretch. It might be true but for only the briefest
of time spans like two weeks or two months.

I casually Googled it. For the pandemic year uptick in
migration especially from hard-hit New York and New
Jersey, for the entire year from July 2019 to July 2020
[[I think) the estimate based on Census data was 661
persons per day. That's still a lot of people! It may be
though that it was young people in New York losing their
restaurant kinds of jobs or being dismissed from school
and selecting Florida as the optimal state to weather the
pandemic in with some young people moving back after
vaccinations and normalization of life in New York
and New Jersey. Time will tell just how many stay and
how many move back.

[Richard]

If you would like to feel good about your low utility bill from
living in the south, this is so you can see just how much you
are saving on your utilities by not living in Michigan.

The energy provider in Detroit is DTE. According to the bill
for January 2021, my average daily electric cost for the time
period was $4.32. [[It's twice what it was for me this time last
year - there is a little chart showing that I used 10.1 KWH per
day in January 2020 vs. 22.1 KWH in January 2021. There's
a bit more lighting and a new furnace system this year but
I am probably due to break out the Kill-A-Watt meter to verify
that these are the reason for the higher usage.) The little
chart for natural gas usage shows 7.2 CCF this year versus
6.7 CCF last January. The average daily gas cost for January
was $5.74. The total current charges were a bit over $300.
It is for a house that is about 1,000 square feet.

After about 2022 a price increase of about 11% will be added in
to everyone's utility bill.

That certainly may push some Michiganders towards Florida.

But just for today, here there are minimal bugs, the
birds are singing [[to be sure some of them are Canada geese)
and the coal fired plant across the river was fired up this
morning, sending energy onto the grid for everyone
to the south except Texas.

We already received our notice of a 15% increase on our power bill “for future green energy investments” .

They still never took off the added $16 additional fuel charge that was added when gas was $4 per gallon.

But I paid $3.45 per gallon for gas today,so $4 is not that far off.

Germany had to swap out their 200 electric public transit buses because range did not meet expectations.

Our transit company here spent millions to convert the buses over to natural gas in the name of green,now they want to eliminate natural gas.

Maybe in the name of green they will just make them peddle buses,where all of the riders will have to pitch in and peddle,of course if it is a slow route and you are the only passenger it might be difficult.

Oregon is going as far as not allowing any new construction unless it is totally dependent on electricity,no alternative heat sources.

Their plan is not to wean us off of fossil fuels,they want to just cut the cord now and then deal with the fallout as it occurs,but yet everything that is used to make green energy is based on products that are made from fossil fuels.

So they will Jack the price up of fuel in order to force us to switch to EV but yet that price increase will also Jack up the cost of everything else in our lives.

I ran a cost comparison with Michigan verses Florida a few years back and it was really only a $100 difference.

Canada supplies much of the east coast with power,at cost during the night off peak,I wonder what would happen if they decided one day to stop doing that or if they said they were shutting down that power generation facility in the name of green.

The entire east coast would go dark for a very long time.

We have a law on our books down here,if you make your house 100% self energy reliant they will condem it.

It is not considered habitual unless you are hooked up to utilities.

So even if you go 100% solar etc. you still have to pay the $45 per month in order to stay hooked up to the meter.

I have friends up north with large historical homes,they spend on an average of $3500 per month in heating costs in the winter.

[Gistok]

Oladub... that $1.9T amount is large. But the $2000 sum is what Trump wanted... and so the additional $1400 is making up the gap.

I personally think that the 75K/150K upper limit is too high. But there are folks out there in real need of help still. I was driving a few miles away from me, and saw a huge 2 mile backup line back in early January. It was because our county was giving away free products [[Kleenex, Toilet Paper, Hand Sanitizer and masks) for people in need, and there are a lot of people hurting and hungry in our country... that need help. Unfortunately the current $1.9 stimulus is rewarding those who don't need it, as well as those who do.

As for the state funding part. Not all of those in need are blue states.

From what I have read, the Fed Reserve Chairman and other business leaders are in support of it.

[Meddle]

I was driving a few miles away from me, and saw a huge 2 mile backup line back in early January. It was because our county was giving away free products [[Kleenex, Toilet Paper, Hand Sanitizer and masks) for people in need,

Playing Devil's Advocate .... are you 100% sure that all of those people were using all of that stuff themselves and not selling on a popular auction site? Not everyone claiming to be in need and lining up for free stuff are entirely honest.

[Gistok]

Playing Devil's Advocate .... are you 100% sure that all of those people were using all of that stuff themselves and not selling on a popular auction site? Not everyone claiming to be in need and lining up for free stuff are entirely honest.

Forgot to mention... it was for people 65 and older... they had to have proof. Now granted that doesn't mean they cant sell it on Ebay.

[oladub]

Oladub... that $1.9T amount is large. But the $2000 sum is what Trump wanted... and so the additional $1400 is making up the gap.

I personally think that the 75K/150K upper limit is too high. But there are folks out there in real need of help still. I was driving a few miles away from me, and saw a huge 2 mile backup line back in early January. It was because our county was giving away free products [[Kleenex, Toilet Paper, Hand Sanitizer and masks) for people in need, and there are a lot of people hurting and hungry in our country... that need help. Unfortunately the current $1.9 stimulus is rewarding those who don't need it, as well as those who do.

As for the state funding part. Not all of those in need are blue states.

From what I have read, the Fed Reserve Chairman and other business leaders are in support of it.

Trump should have kept his mouth shut.

If every American were given $1,400 x 327M Americans it would equal $458B However, those younger than 17 are not going to receive anything and probably some upper income people will not receive the full amount if anything. But pretending that every individual received $1,400, the total of $458B is only 24% of $1.9T. There are some substantial number like $130 billion to help schools reopen safely, $40 billion for colleges but they don't add up to anything near the balance of $1.9Tx76% = $1,442 T+. This $1.9T giveaway must be a pork monster.

$1.9T = $5,700 of new federal debt for every American. Biden is going to charge most of this to our children. It's a ball and chain they will have to bare.
If they voted for Biden, they deserve it.

[Gistok]

Oladub... I don't disagree that there is a lot of pork in there... I wish there was a way that the stimulus could help Main Steet instead of Wall Street... but I think that Main Street is already screwed.

No doubt that these trillions [[plus the trillions already spent) are going to be an albatross around the necks of future generations of Americans.

[Richard]

Have to give Cruz credit

He just might be the first Hispanic to LEAVE Texas because of ICE.

Even more surprising ABC news actually highlighted the thousands of Texans that came together to help their neighbors out during a crisis instead of sitting around complaining about it,or waiting in the government to save them.

[Richard]

Trump should have kept his mouth shut.

If every American were given $1,400 x 327M Americans it would equal $458B However, those younger than 17 are not going to receive anything and probably some upper income people will not receive the full amount if anything. But pretending that every individual received $1,400, the total of $458B is only 24% of $1.9T. There are some substantial number like $130 billion to help schools reopen safely, $40 billion for colleges but they don't add up to anything near the balance of $1.9Tx76% = $1,442 T+. This $1.9T giveaway must be a pork monster.

$1.9T = $5,700 of new federal debt for every American. Biden is going to charge most of this to our children. It's a ball and chain they will have to bare.
If they voted for Biden, they deserve it.

and they are just getting started how many more trillions are going to be needed to implement their upcoming programs.

Putting 11 million illegals into the system.
Opening up the southern border to 100s of thousands of “refugees”
Eliminating student debt
Government grants for EVs
billions in charging stations for the EVs
The $400 million they sent to Mexico to buy the refugees lunch.
The millions it will cost to house,feed and provide medical care to the thousands of refugees stored on this side of the border,then the additional hundreds of millions needed to actually process them through the system ,then pay the wages to those who will have to monitor the ankle bracelets as they are released into the public.
The billions that will be sent to the world climate change conspiracy club.
The trillions that will be sent to NATO to cover costs for countries that cannot afford it.
Billions sent to other countries in the name of aid,minius the kickbacks.
Millions sent to all of the American workers that Biden fired in his first couple of days in office.
Millions needed to support Americans fired because of a relaxed EB5 visa program that will replace American tech workers with cheap imported labor.
The Trillion it will cost to go back into Iran and do another regime change before we get nuked.

That is just in the first two weeks of Bidens new world.

Future generations will not have to worry about paying that tab,by the time they get there ,the wealth will have already been transferred to the top at this rate.

[Gistok]

^Richard... are you just throwing numbers against the wall and seeing what will stick?

Trillion for regime change in Iran... oh that is sooooo funny.... where did you get that figure? Breitbart, or Fox News? Remember Fox News were the same ones who said that an Obama trip to India would cost $2 billion and require 34 war ships... what was so funny when Hannity mentioned that, the source was some mid-level politician from India who pulled that number out of his ass, and yet when it was proven false, Hannity never retracted that.

For all your energy bill lamentations, the poor people of Texas are suddenly hit with sky high electric bills, depending on how they are set up for energy consumption. One man had a $7,000 bill for one months bill. Some folks with automatic withdrawals [[something I never do) have had their entire checking and savings account wiped out [[plus the overdraft fee if they don't have a protection program) getting electric bills up to $17,000. Suddenly Michigan's electric rates don't look so bad!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/20/busin...uct/index.html

https://www.vox.com/2021/2/20/222929...r-storm-griddy

I can just imagine what the electric bills will be for businesses that use this "wholesale power plan".

[Richard]

^ sometimes you have some convoluted logic.

I posted the link of the Texas rate hikes in regards to the snap rate changes,I did not make that up nor did I set up a studio to record it or even hire an actor to play in the show.

But yet you called it my energy laminations.

This is where I got my information,next you will call if some right wing site and spreading false information.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mh3q5p9qYG0

Show me your spread sheet of how much it costs to go to war in order to do a regime change in Iran.

Iraq cost 4 trillion dollars and they had little to no defensive military.

Refugees at the border

The Federation for American Immigration Reform Monday put the five-year price tag at $8.8 billion in federal and state costs, or nearly $80,000 per refugee. There are some 18 federal and state programs refugees can tap for financial help, including food stamps, child care, public housing and school loans.
On a yearly average, it is $1.8 billion, or $15,900 per refugee. Included in that are enormous refugee resettlement costs such as $867 million in welfare, housing assistance and education.

It cost three times the average medium income in the city of Detroit,for 1 refugee.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/r...lfare-medicaid

The comprehensive immigration overhaul being taken up in the Senate this week could cost taxpayers $6.3 trillion if 11 million illegal immigrants are granted legal status, according to a long-awaited estimate by the conservative Heritage Foundation.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/stu...t-6-3-trillion




This is how much it costs to rejoin the climate change conspiracy

These higher costs would be spread across the entire economy and would shrink overall economic growth and employment. Heritage Foundation analysts estimated that the regulations required to meet the Obama administration’s commitments would impose the following costs by 2035:

• An overall loss of nearly 400,000 jobs, half of which would be in manufacturing.
• A average total income loss of more than $20,000 for a family of four.
• An aggregate GDP loss of over $2.5 trillion.

Other countries would continue getting a free pass under the agreement, but if the U.S. signed back on, one can be sure that environmental activist lawsuits would make sure the U.S. kept its obligations.

https://www.heritage.org/environment...t-families-20k

Remind me again how I am just throwing numbers against the wall?

In the end you do not get to pick which state run apartment they will put you in,they will tell you which one.

Do you even notice how many trillions are involved just with the EOs grandpa smurf has signed so far?

And it has only been 3 weeks.

You need to be doing what everybody else is doing with assets in this country,move them out overseas,because they will not be yours for much longer.

You think I am joking when I say their plan is a 53% personal tax obligation,how else did you think they were going to pay for it all when you voted for them?

They suckered you into thinking the big corporations were going to foot the bill and you actually believed them.

The same big corporations that put them into power are now going to turn around and pay for trillions in programs?

They knew what was going to happen already if Biden took office,they already made their moves,to late now for you.

You should learn a little bit about our enemies in the world and know what they are capable of.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/09/middleeast/iran-military-weapons-tactics-intl-hnk-scli/index.html

I realize that I used a left wing propaganda fake news site for a reference
But in this case they really just copied and pasted it.

Did you know it cost for 1 hour of flight time in a F35A - $28,455

One bombing run to Iran from our base for 5 aircraft including munitions cost 1 million.

Do you know how those plans get their fuel?

They fly a tanker out of Tampa to the Middle East,fuel the planes then return to Tampa.They do not release those costs to the public but a B1 bomber cost 170,000 per flight hour.

Numbers are not spaghetti thrown against the wall.

[Gistok]

Getting back onto the subject..

Half of Texas still has water issues... either boiling water alerts... or worse... frozen broken pipes.

This will cost billions to fix [[water damage included), and require a huge number of out of state licensed plumbers and carpenters temporarily setting up shop in Texas [[if the hotels aren't still booked up)... the cost of repairing all the busted water pipes and water damaged plaster is mind boggling. There are probably a large number of frost belt carpenters who are in the winter slow season, who could make quite a bit of income temporarily relocating to Texas right now.

I could see this costing each homeowner $5000+ to get it all fixed.

I wouldn't want to be in the state government of independent minded Texas right now.

[Gistok]

I'm sure some heads will explode...

But Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez raised nearly $5 million for relief efforts in Texas...
​https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/21/polit...ief/index.html

[Richard]

To raise money, Ocasio-Cortez is using Act Blue, a Democratic fundraising tool, that helps her build an email listserv as she receives donations.


She did not do it out of the kindness of her heart,she did it to get a free campaign tool.

So she used people suffering as a campaign tool.No surprise though.

If I am going to donate,I will donate with no strings attached,even more so when one can now expect to be bombarded through the mail and email with the democrat party socialist weekly newspaper.

She will probably make more money for herself selling the donor/mailing list on the side, then actual donations received.

[Gistok]

To raise money, Ocasio-Cortez is using Act Blue, a Democratic fundraising tool, that helps her build an email listserv as she receives donations.


She did not do it out of the kindness of her heart,she did it to get a free campaign tool.

So she used people suffering as a campaign tool.No surprise though.

If I am going to donate,I will donate with no strings attached,even more so when one can now expect to be bombarded through the mail and email with the democrat party socialist weekly newspaper.

She will probably make more money for herself selling the donor/mailing list on the side, then actual donations received.

Of course not... she could have gone to Cancun instead...

[Richard]

Of course not... she could have gone to Cancun instead...

Mexico is still to close to have her around.

What was Cruz supposed to do,go door to door and tell everybody to shut off their water main so the house does not flood?

What exactly was he supposed to do that 1000s of others were already doing?

Wave a magic wand ? He left with his kids,so that was 4 people less on an already strained system.

Look at the cities across the country,it’s not like any of your representatives have actually stuck around in your best interests.

At least he is not fake and using others bad situation for political gain,but that seems to be the standard in that party.

[Henry Whalley]

AOC is doing what Cruz should have done.

[jcole]

AND she went down there to help distribute and offer comfort.

I'm sure some heads will explode...

But Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez raised nearly $5 million for relief efforts in Texas...
​https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/21/polit...ief/index.html

[Jimaz]

Book your Mexican Getaway Now!

[Richard]

AOC is doing what Cruz should have done.

No,he took the higher ground and did not use a natural disaster for political gain.

Name one other politician that has raised funds for natural disasters on US soil in that manner,it is not an excepted practice for the exact reason AOC highlighted.

Their job comes in afterwards with working with the feds on disaster relief funds.

If you look at politicians that have raised disaster relief funds for foreign causes,it always becomes a big issue because usually only a small percentage of the funds raised,actually reach the intended target.

Its not uncommon in states that regularly see natural disasters for people to leave until the dust settles,there was nothing he could have done at this point to help outside of get his children out of the picture for a few weeks because he will not come into play until after the dust settles and his time will be consumed with it and not have to be dealing with the kids.

In every city and state,every documented year on record and every season there has been a recorded natural disaster or a once in 50 year weather event.

Even FEMA has a 100 year flood plan,in case that devastating happens within that 100 years.

Every season brings the odds of somebody somewhere hitting that 100 year weather event.

Last thing anybody needs during the process is a politician running around disrupting everything and making it political under the fake guise of offering comfort.

She waited until the political momentum kicked in and became a hot topic and she saw the opportunity to score points and create a political mailing list.

Did she raise funds and offer comfort when the dams burst in upper Michigan?

She did not raise funds when the California wildfires were displacing tens of thousands there.

But when it comes to a red state that is turning purple she saw opportunities to buy political gain under the guise of caring about people.

[oladub]

I'm ok with AOC rounding up $5m to give to the charities of her choice in Texas. In fact, I'm impressed with her doing so, her ability to round up that money, and political acumen in making Cruz look bad in the corporate press. AOC is often good about recognizing existing problems but often brain dead about how to resolve them. This time, she cleverly threaded the needle. The childless, pro abortion AOC took the opportunity to needle Cruz while he was catching up on promised family obligations. She knew the press would make her the winner of that round.

The larger problem Texas needs to fix is to get its building codes to address these 100 year freezes if Texas doesn't want to get caught like this again...and/or note in every property transfer and rental contract that these situations are possible when temperatures get to near record lows. Then its up to communities and individuals to prepare for such things. Individual responsibility is still a thing in some quarters. Resident of Florida, for instance, know that hurricanes happen. It was puzzling that we didn't hear more about heated school gymnasiums not being provided for those who lost power but then there was Covid.

There was one case of of a Honduran born boy dying from the cold in his bed. His family is now trying to sue power companies for $100M for not letting them know that the cold might last for several days Another of a child who froze to death crossing the Rio Grande.

I had a farm that was largely in a flood plain. I knew that when I bought it. I had one 500 year flood and two 100 year floods in the time I owned it. It ruined some corn crops and destroyed fences. I would have been laughed out of the court room if I had tried to sue the government for having the 100 year flood standard wrong, not warning me that 6-8" of rain over 24 hours causes flooding, and that it rains where I lived.

[Richard]

The winter of 1978 blanketed the country.

NE Ohio saw over 30 days of white out blizzard conditions and 53 deaths.

All across the country winds in a lot of places exceeded 130 mph,causing snow to be piled over 30’ that buried houses and roads.

In Ohio 9 military snowplow trucks sent to provide relief to residents, were disabled in a matter of seconds when one stopped short and the rest piled into each other.

Mother nature is going to do what she does just as she has done for 6000 years and yet a majority of the population still does not have a simple survival cache or back up plan.

[canuck]

The winter of 1978 blanketed the country.

NE Ohio saw over 30 days of white out blizzard conditions and 53 deaths.

All across the country winds in a lot of places exceeded 130 mph,causing snow to be piled over 30’ that buried houses and roads.

In Ohio 9 military snowplow trucks sent to provide relief to residents, were disabled in a matter of seconds when one stopped short and the rest piled into each other.

Mother nature is going to do what she does just as she has done for 6000 years and yet a majority of the population still does not have a simple survival cache or back up plan.

Has it been 6000 years already? My, time flies.

[Richard]

Has it been 6000 years already? My, time flies.

Doesn’t it though ? Seems like it was only yesterday when the moron dropped the block of stone on my big toe,while we were building the pyramids.

I told them smoking that Egyptian hash would lead to problems on the job,but even back then they took that liberal outlook,no matter what the consequences led to.

Shore anuff 3 days later the locusts came buzzing through and ett their munches right up.

Nice to see you are still hanging in there.