Welcome to Biden world

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Oladub, I enjoyed the beginning of your post. I'll save my response to that part for a second post.

But as for the rest of it, which correlated wealth with voting democratic:

The data shows a higher level of education is a much bigger predictor than wealth for voting democratic. Of course wealthier people are more likely to send their kids to college, so I don't dispute wealthier people tend to vote democratic. I'm sure it's true.

The experts who've dug deeper into the data have discerned education is a bigger factor. In the 2020 election higher education was 50% more correlated with a democratic vote than was wealth. Wealthy people without higher education were much more likely to vote Trump. Ordinary people with higher education much less.

A simpler way to look at it, analogous to your example: Among the 50 counties with the highest percentage of college graduates Biden won 45.

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Oladub, part two

I was much more interested in the beginning of your post, and I'll share a little NY history to complement it: the history of 23 Wall Street.

In 1869 J.P. Morgan and Anthony Drexel paid $250,000 in gold for the site, on the SE corner of Wall Street and Broad, which broke records for the most ever paid per sq ft of land in the US. There they built their investment bank's headquarters, more ostentatious than its neighbors, roughly as tall. Only the second ever "fireproof" building in NY.

J.P. Morgan later formed his own independent investment bank. In 1912, even more flush with wealth, he bought the property from Drexel for $3 million [[nearly $82 million in today's money), setting new records, again. It's not a big plot of land.

He decided to demolish the building for his new headquarters and led the design effort to replace it. He didn't live long enough to see it, but his design was realized the year and the year after his death.

It was a much more simple 4-story building, designed to appear only 2. Little ornament. It didn't so much as bear his name.

Already, more than a century ago, J.P. Morgan exhibited true wealth is not ostentatious. Even if, when nouveau riche, he hadn't realized that.

There's a flip side, in line with your argument. Who else, but someone so rich as he was, would pay so much for such a first class building, in such a prime location, only to demolish it and replace it with something shorter, smaller, and simpler?

It was calculated intention.

Its exterior walls are 7 feet thick, its foundation can support an additional 30 floors, its safe has a 50-ton door, the entire first floor is only one room, with a skylight-- greatly limiting the space available to upper floors, and the lintel above the entrance is 19' x 3.2' x 3' -- the largest stone then ever used for construction in NY.

These are subtle details, practically hidden. To be appreciated only by the most discerning, the rarest of the elite. And not many of them.

J.P. Morgan, even more than before, was showing off.

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Oladub, part three

Many generations later I'm reminded of the much more recent "speakeasy" fad, and how far the idea of the faux insider has sunk.

Remember when gmail was invite-only?

Got your clubhouse invite yet?

[[Didn't go there, didn't want one, especially not one of those!)

[oladub]

Bust, That's an interesting story about J.P. Morgan and getting what he wanted just right. Maybe getting out the word about 7' thick walls was also meant to reassure the public. I shy away from contemporary bank branches that put up cheap plastic signs preferring banks that look like they intend to stay for awhile.

But Veblin, in his Theory of the Leisure Class was referencing personal displays of leisure and conspicuous consumption. Great Gatsby comes to mind. I've been trying to make the point that the aristocracy is becoming less Republican and more Democratic. The Time article backed me up. A polarity change between which party represents working Americans and the management class is gradually occurring. The referenced article does touch on education. "The chief purpose of luxury beliefs is to indicate evidence of the believer’s social class and education."The rich have always been better educated. The article-

Thorstein Veblen’s Theory of the Leisure Class—A Status Update

just postulates that the leisure class also promotes beliefs that only the rich can afford.

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Oladub,

Republicans have absolutely nothing to offer ordinary people.
They pass legislation against our interests while they jazz hands social issues,
Abortion, pervs in bathrooms, so-called socialism, and other distractions.

The "leisure class" is not democratic, they're republican. I know.
Like the Koch Brothers [[RIH), and the Mercers, and the Adelsons [[RIH), and the second-rate [[Adelson standard) grifter Wynn.

No wonder they so cheaply bought a fourth-rate president,
Weakest weak psychology,
Imposter, such a mark.

[oladub]

Disagree. The leisure class is becoming more and more Democratic. 19 of the 20 richest counties in the Country vote Democratic. New rich Silicon Valley billionaires are displacing old rich industrial billionaires just as industrial elites once replaced the landed gentry. You wrote, "Among the 50 counties with the highest percentage of college graduates Biden won 45". 6 of the 7 richest billionaires are Democrats. The Time article went on about how the U.S. Chamber of Commerce is starting to support Democrats, elite business leaders helped "fortify" democracy by controlling information. That sounds more like some variation of fascism* than democracy to me. The rich are the beneficiaries of open borders which is the #1 goal of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. The Koch brother [[singular) is big on open borders too. Upper middle class white suburbs went for Biden in such increased numbers that they more than offset a 50% increase in the black vote for Trump. According to Open Secrets dot Com, big donors gave about 4x as much to Biden as to Trump. Without Trump, maybe Republicans can go back to being Whigs again never to be heard from again so there is good reason for Democrats to take away the right of Americans to vote for him; another totalitarian note. For myself, I think that at 78, Trump will be too old to be president in 2024. Look at Biden. All the same, I really, really don't like totalitarians telling me whom I may or may not vote for.

*Fascism isn't the right word to apply to Democrats beyond their corporatist orientation. After all, Democrats often ally themselves with globalist interests at the expense of American workers and its lower middle class. Ask Keystone and SpaceX workers.

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6 of the 7 richest billionaires are Democrats.

As of a little more than a year ago, the richest Americans:

Bezos,
Gates,
Zuckerberg,
Buffet,
Ellison,
Ballmer,
Musk,
Page,
Brin,
and three of the WalMart Waltons.

F*ck every single one of them.

In my book only Gates gets a partial pass, and only for the Gates Foundation.
Not for how he got so rich; Microsoft was a practical monopoly.
Buffet, just a little, only for pledging his riches to charity instead of his children. But he's no angel how he made his billions, and his children could not be more privileged than they already have been and will continue to be.
Ellison? Only Trump is worse.
Ballmer: Who was the devil on Gates' shoulder if not for him?
Musk? Don't get me started.
Google schmoogle. Only Zuck deserves anti-trust more.
Waltons, puhleease. Have any of them supported a democrat since Wallace?
And so on.

They're not democrats.
Follow the money.
What politicians and parties do they support?

They're our common enemy.
They support those who divide us using social issues,
Like abortion, pervs in bathrooms, and supposed "socialism."
In order to continue to conquer, and maintain control.
Sometimes not directly, they claim to look the other way--
Experts in shell companies and dark money.
Who's paying attention anyway?

[oladub]

I'm partial to Musk; not for being a nice guy but for being a genius and national treasure. He is sort of like the innovative Benjamin Franklin of our day spinning off new jobs and industries.

Norway had an artist whom it revered so much that they gave him a generous salary and gave him a park, Vigland Garden, in Oslo to put his his sculptures in. Our Constitution probably wouldn't allow us to give Musk similar tenure and stipends but Teslas, the Boring Company, SpaceX, solar roofing materials, home batteries,... Musk just leaves this trail of new jobs behind him.

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I'm partial to Musk; not for being a nice guy but for being a genius and national treasure. He is sort of like the innovative Benjamin Franklin of our day spinning off new jobs and industries.

Norway had an artist whom it revered so much that they gave him a generous salary and gave him a park, Vigland Garden, in Oslo to put his his sculptures in. Our Constitution probably wouldn't allow us to give Musk similar tenure and stipends but Teslas, the Boring Company, SpaceX, solar roofing materials, home batteries,... Musk just leaves this trail of new jobs behind him.

He's a genius and a dark one,
Treasure like is kryptonite.
He's got them fooled, no shame for him,
Ready swells alheady white.

Surfing ever bigger curls,
He hits the waves, the sharks don't bite.

Tall walls fall and come to crash,
He bails before he tweets.
His toadies broke, his kids all fail,
His reptiles croak, his goats their bleats.

[Richard]

As time allows, I'm evaluating the Executive Orders and Presidential Actions of president Biden. Here is some information from varied sources and references:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...ntial-actions/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_by_Joe_Biden

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021...cutive-orders/

You are falling behind,he is up to 52 and still counting,you probably need to quit your job because it would appear that keeping up with this dictatorship is a full time job.

Couple of interesting ones.

Starting back up the Mexico City Agreement.

Which provides abortion funding to foreign non profits.

The United States is running population control across the world.

CENSUS [[Reversal of Trump policy):
By signing this EO, Biden blocked the Census Bureau from excluding undocumented immigrants from the apportionment data used to determine how many seats in the Congress that each state gets.

https://meaww.com/here-is-a-list-of-...ood%20at%2045.


So as far as grandpa smurf is concerned,if you are a democrat or you are black and did not vote for me,I will replace you with illegal immigrants and use their voice.

I have to love their constant cry for following the science when it comes to the rona virus and climate change,but ignore the science that says men have different bits and pieces then women.

AOC is sharing the trauma she received while riding in the car that fateful day in Dallas,November 1963. #AlexandriaOcasioSmollett




To a room full of applause,New York governor signed an abortion law that allows abortions up until the 9 month,that is just sick.

[Gistok]

Biden's Executive Orders...

[Wheels]

There I fixed that for you!

[Wheels]

Joe Biden is fingering A minor in the back of a truck.

[Zacha341]

You're right I've responsibilities and a 'life', so picking my battles at the public realm and time-wise. Yes, the mandate is that Biden has so much to 'FIX' and undo ala Trump. But this unprecedented level of XO's is a problem withstanding the 'repudiation-of-all-things Trump' justification.

Again we see the 'our turn' scene as you're more scrutinized in what you do, pay for, and discuss. YET it's getting old -- this rapid-fire signing is being used to toss in more policies, un-read, not-clarified [[as they would had they gone thru the normal processes). If you're lower to upper middle-class you will increasingly see your tax dollar taken/ and redistributed for things you don't value.

You'll be told you're not progressive, WOKE etc. if you complain.

As reductionism [[lose of personhood - rendered down to this or that group) increases, where everyone's assigned by their position as oppressor or oppressed, the governing elite 'controls' one group and 'promises' things to the other. Pitting said groups against each other thinking they're working out their power disputes. While in fact the government itself seizes more power! Then they re-sift the winners and losers as needed!

We should be at seventy, eighty, or maybe a hundred+ Executive Orders coming over the next few months per the prevailing and agreed to mindset. Fully justified in response to Trump/ GOP for a while yet.

But as Trump recedes, Biden will own [[including all that he signs). I hope he's reading the details!

But to argue endlessly is fairly useless as the response now is mostly to dig in heels, deeper. But a few are having the courage to walk away, and not be too surprised. Seeing this for what it is.

You are falling behind, he is up to 52 and still counting, you probably need to quit your job because it would appear that keeping up with this dictatorship is a full time job.

Couple of interesting ones.

Starting back up the Mexico City Agreement.

Which provides abortion funding to foreign non profits.

The United States is running population control across the world...

[Richard]

So did they put the big fence up,guarded by the military,to prevent him from escaping or to keep others out?

Problem is when people just walk away,you end up being like Cuba or Venezuela.

That is the definition of Democratic socialism,changing the system by using the process to convert it.

[Zacha341]

^ I did not mean that form of walking away. I meant walking away from useless argumentation, devolving into personal attacks, and more reductionism applied to your personhood and individuality or thought.

[Richard]

^ that’s the objective though,compliance,remove self thought,create a bunch of conforming smurfs living in a perfect smurf world,people thinking for themselves is disruptive to the unicorns flight path.

People do not understand it is not the governments money,it has to come from somewhere outside of a printer,eventually.

As soon as the government says,we need to do this to protect you,then you know the question is going to be how much.

We saw that after 9-11,they figured out how to create a trillion dollar a year industry based on fear.

Notice the stark difference on how Biden handles the press and show they react to him verses Trump.

Biden is following the Obama years that saw the largest jailing and removing of reporters that did not agree with the program.

Biden gets up there and says what he has to say,while the press cowers in fear,and making them presubmit questions for approval,before asking them.

State run media at its best,they control and manipulate the flow of information.

He is calling for actions against Burma for the military take over of that country,feezing assets over 1 billion in this country,and going after the military leaders and their families.

The military wrote the constitution for Burma,there are no sanctions against them that are going to work,my guess is they will be sending contractors/operators in like they did with Hong Kong in order to support the protesters,who will end up being jailed or killed.

Just like Obama,drawing silly red lines in the sand with no teeth,there is only one way to get the military out of control over there,and it is not done by asking pretty please.

He is known world wide by all the thugs as a pacifist and weak,that is also why China is ramping up its take over of Taiwan,while he is talking diplomacy they are ramping up war.

We would have never had communist China if Truman had done less talking and more actions,which in turn brought us the Korean and Vietnam police actions,or war.

They always talk the game of democracy and trying to implement it,until it actually comes time to implement it.

Then the ones who thought we had their back are the ones that ended up dead or in prison,why even fake support of it.

[oladub]

VP Harris has now made head of state calls for Pres. Biden. However, . Biden did make a call to Xi. It was VP Harris who made calls to the heads of Canada and France. Two incidents does not make a trend but this development is worth watching.

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VP Harris has now made head of state calls for Pres. Biden. However, . Biden did make a call to Xi. It was VP Harris who made calls to the heads of Canada and France. Two incidents does not make a trend but this development is worth watching.

It's odd you called these "head of state" calls and you ignored the facts President Biden already made [[actual) head of state calls to Trudeau and Macron weeks ago, among many others. Your source is judged "extreme right" by Media Bias Fact Check, so no surprise they'd mislead you by misrepresenting and omitting those facts too.

[Gistok]

It's odd you called these "head of state" calls and you ignored the facts President Biden already made [[actual) head of state calls to Trudeau and Macron weeks ago, among many others. Your source is judged "extreme right" by Media Bias Fact Check, so no surprise they'd mislead you by misrepresenting and omitting those facts too.

Do they use fiction authors to write right wing blogs and media sources? Sure looks like it.

[Wheels]

Do they use fiction authors to write right wing blogs and media sources? Sure looks like it.

Are you trying to say they altered material to suit their own narrative? Who would ever do such a thing.

http://realfactchecks.com/democrats-...om-the-stream/

[oladub]

As usual, Bust and Gistok shot the messenger. Perhaps in their echo chamber world there is no tonic of truth outside of corporatist [[CNN) and left wing [[VOX) news sites. I quoted something from Vox the other day without citing it as a left wing font and there were no complaints about that. I'm ok with using left wing and corporatist stuff [[The Time article was great) when they help make my point. Unlike some here I will deem to dirty myself to dig out information. Look below. I even posted something from the Biden White House. Why should I care about the "Media Bias Fact Check" censors' opinions of what sheeple should look at? Some people here make statements without even backing them up with any links.

Neither the article nor I said that Biden had not previously said Hi to Trudeau or Macron. Thank you for that additional information. All the same, we find 3.4% Harris conducting policy with foreign leaders according to the White House. I suggested that was not enough to constitute a trend but should be watched to see if there is more of the same. I did mention that Biden had spoken with Xi and didn't mention that Biden, according to the article, had not spoken to Netanyahu. Take it or leave it, if you want to shoot any messenger, the majority of sentences in the link I posted, were from-

[Henry Whalley]

...conforming smurfs living in a perfect smurf world,

Note to Putin-bots.

In my country [[USA) nobody uses the word 'smurf' -- your cyber warfare against us would sound more authentic if you removed it from your vocabulary.

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Note to Putin-bots.

In my country [[USA) nobody uses the word 'smurf' -- your cyber warfare would against us sound more authentic if you removed it from your vocabulary.

Please pass the bowl!

[Richard]

^ I am thinking more like purple micro dot.