Civilization and its Discontents

**Richard** · January-12-21, 05:59 PM

Michael Beller: “In these times, which are unique -- I mean Trump -- Trump is close to Hitler.”
Journalist: “What are you going to do if we [Democrats] don’t win?”
Beller: “Go to the White House and throw Molotov cocktails.”
Beller said that the children of Trump supporters were being raised to be horrible people, and that a solution would be sending those children to re-education camps.
“They’ll [Trump supporters] be raising a generation of intolerant, horrible people – horrible kids,” Beller said.
“We go for all the Republican voters and Homeland Security will take their children away…we’ll put them into the re-education camps,” he said.
“Enlightenment camps. They’re nice, they have Sesame Street characters in the classrooms, and they watch PBS all day,” he said.
Beller told the Veritas journalist that he was happy to live in Washington D.C. instead of a small town in the United States. He said that people in those towns are not intelligent.
“Americans are so f*cking dumb. You know, most people are dumb. It’s good to live in a place where people are educated and know stuff. Could you imagine if you lived in one of these other towns or cities where everybody's just stupid?”

Project Veritas released a new video today exposing Michael Beller, Principal Counsel for The Public Broadcasting Service [[PBS), for his statements defending violent attacks on the White House, re-education for the children of Trump supporters and praising the deaths of red state voters as a result of COVID-19.

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/...dvGiupJkwv1gQU

PBS, the producers of Sesame Street, announced they fired their Principal Counsel Michael Beller after it was revealed by Project Veritas he advocated for putting children in re-education camps and throwing Molotov cocktails at the White House.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2021/...e-white-house/

My guess is he will not be charged for advocating to throw Molotov cocktails at the White House because that side agrees with it.

There he is comparing Trump to Hitler while advocating for actions no different then Hitler or exactly what the Chinese are doing now to political opponents.

People agree with it because it is conservatives in the cross hairs,you guys are delusional if you do not think you are next.

I find it interesting that they can gather up in order to oust a sitting President in under 10 days but they could not come up with a rona stimulus package in less then 6 months.

**jcole** · January-12-21, 11:43 PM

if you were on a no-fly list wouldn’t you be prohibited from getting a boarding pass. Boarding passes are issued either at home before you go to the airport or at the check-in counter. So chances are they never would’ve made it through security to get to the boarding gate. So this is probably something other than one of the rioters

Originally Posted by Jimaz

Oh. Then that explains this:

Trump supporter learns they're on no-fly list at AIRPORT after storming the Capitol, FREAKS OUT

I didn't believe it at first but now it makes sense.

**Richard** · January-13-21, 10:33 AM

^ unconfirmed saying that it was about the mask thing.

Airlines are creating no-fly lists,if you do not wear the mask then they put your name in a data base and turn it over to the FBI in order to be placed on it permanently as a disruptive passenger,endangering the health to others.

They do not inform you of it in advance,I know you used to be able to purchase a bus ticket no problem online,but when you went to board you were rejected for whatever reason.

My personal speculation on that part,is once they get the money and sell you a ticket,no refund because you cannot board because of you and not what they did.

He could have given them an issue about a mask months ago and is just finding out about being placed on the no fly.

Even the airlines are smart enough to get the money first,that is probably where the video picks up,when he went to collect the boarding pass.

I do not think the right should be stooping to the level of the left,where it is common to show enough video to enflame,without showing the whole context.

**jcole** · January-13-21, 10:48 AM

^^^ He's at the boarding area, well past security. Speculation was that he was told to put on a mask before boarding and refused.

**Gistok** · January-13-21, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Richard

I do not think the right should be stooping to the level of the left,where it is common to show enough video to enflame,without showing the whole context.

Yeah... the right is so exemplary, they shouldn't have to stoop to the lefts level of disinformation...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh4uS4f78o

**Richard** · January-13-21, 11:16 AM

^ well you can clearly see a mask on his chin in the video,that is why if I was guessing,it was because of a prior incident.

He is saying he was labeled a terroist,so my speculation is the process had already been completed before that day,he just did not know it.

**Zacha341** · January-13-21, 11:29 AM

^^^ I've flown Delta alot lately, and from what I can see they really DON'T care what's your-party, who you-defend or denounce, who you-love or who you-follow: mask up.

**Richard** · January-13-21, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Gistok

Yeah... the right is so exemplary, they shouldn't have to stoop to the lefts level of disinformation...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh4uS4f78o

I did not watch the whole thing but remember when they told us masks did not prevent the spread?

How come some of the most severe countries like China can lock down and still not stop it.

How come Florida who has a larger population has lower deaths then New York who has had stricter lock downs.

How come when there are hundreds of countries with all of these brilliant scientists,it was President Trump and the US who came up with a shot for the entire world?

It was a new virus and yet we are supposed to believe the experts,it was new to them also.

So who exactly considered the expert? If one says listen to the science and if the science does not even have a clue,then it leaves it up to speculation.

Even the scientific community world wide could not agree on anything.

Our lives are filled with things and products that seemed the best thing in the world at the time,until it is found out they are not.

So now they have a shot to save the world,that we will not know of the side effects for years.

But while we are on the subject of miscreants.

As much as Detroit hates outsiders,what would you have called it,if a group of outsiders came in armed and took over blocks of the city and called it their sovereign territory,with your city leaders just saying do not worry about it and making excuses for it to happen?

When they shouted the redcoats were coming,the entire country did not come together and take up arms.

Even during WW2 when we were supposed to come together as a country their were riots,labor stoppages etc.

People are by nature individuals and you are never going to get a entire population group think and compliance.

Even under the much sought after dictatorship socialist aspect that the left embraces in this country,you still have to kill,jail or create opposition against the group that you label enemies of the state in order to force compliance.

O wait ...

China set about sterilizing women because they did not want them to become baby making machines,their words,as we have seen already there are many on the left that already supports that against those that they oppose.

**Zacha341** · January-13-21, 11:37 AM

Well, far from being a committed dyed-in-the-wool Trump supporter, I hope [[and will be evaluating) these restrictions don't mutate from 'Trump supporter is being...' to 'Opposition person[[s) are now being [fill in the blank] because they [fill in the blank]...'.

There may be a tad of 'opposition' going forth. Coming from a myriad of folk in response to rights, and values they wish to retain. And no, not from the usual suspects [[white supremacists, alt-right, etc.).

Originally Posted by jcole

if you were on a no-fly list wouldn’t you be prohibited from getting a boarding pass. Boarding passes are issued either at home before you go to the airport or at the check-in counter. So chances are they never would’ve made it through security to get to the boarding gate. So this is probably something other than one of the rioters

**Richard** · January-13-21, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

^^^ I've recently flown Delta alot lately, and from what I can see they DON'T care what's your-party, who you-defend or denounce, who you-love or who you-follow: mask up.

Its funny or maybe not the stark differences in mask enforcement.

So we had our little lock down in the spring and then reopened with mask polices.

I live in a lower Kinda income section,businesses have the sign on the door but maybe 50% actually even wear masks.

The corporations that have bases outside of the state are anel about it,call in your order,they will email you when it is ready to be picked up and no cash.

But yet the local businesses it is a mixed bag of compliance,but they are open.

Now go to the highly liberal monied section and you can say - corona booo and everybody scatters,they make it a point to go out of their way to attack any businesses and get them shut down or the $15,000 fine for non compliance.

So those business are shut forever now,the interesting part is those exact sections are the ones most infected.

Maybe the rona virus is scared of the hood,who knows but what they say day after day in the news,sure does not match what is happening in the street.

Then we have the Dems at the capital saying they got corona from the republicans,the video shows that they were not wearing their masks either,if they were they would not have contacted it as we are told.

Interesting to see how much of this actually has to do with the virus itself.

**Zacha341** · January-13-21, 12:28 PM

^ Remember, the mask only offers a 'percentage' of protection from germs and bacteria in general. Thus, hospital staff wear them during medical procedures, surgery etc, yet the operating room is sterile, antiseptics applied, gloves are worn etc. Conversely, there are multiple factors that can enhance the spread of COVID. Close-crowds what ever their political leaning can advance the spread for example if a heavy spreader happens to be present.

I'll not mock the mask-wearing per se, yet I'm not the mask-solves-all zealot either: like those giving the evil-eye when you're sitting alone on a park bench not wearing a mask at that particular moment!

**Richard** · January-13-21, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

^ Remember, the mask only offers a 'percentage' of protection from germs and bacteria in general. Thus, hospital staff wear them during medical procedures, surgery etc, yet the operating room is sterile, antiseptics applied, gloves are worn etc. Conversely, there are multiple factors that can enhance the spread of COVID. Close-crowds what ever their political leaning can advance the spread for example if a heavy spreader happens to be present.

I'll not mock the mask-wearing per se, yet I'm not the mask-solves-all zealot either: like those giving the evil-eye when you're sitting alone on a park bench not wearing a mask at that particular moment!

My thing is with people that have nailed down the exact time and date and claim this is where it got it as an argument.

I have to wonder,if it can take up to 14 days for symptoms to show up,where are people finding the time to document their very movements every second of the day.

Then in Florida during the holidays the testing stations were closed over the holidays,so when they re-opened it was,wow the cases have gone off of the charts,hello the same people that wanted to get tested when it closed,still go to the line the day it reopens along with the others that choose to get tested that day.

I like to ride around in the rich sections,alone in my Jaguar,with my mask on,so people think,what a great guy because he is in compliance.

**Zacha341** · January-13-21, 01:50 PM

^ Convertible Jag-wind blown! That really makes alot of sense! Especially when alone. Yet I see people masked-up that way in their car.

**Jimaz** · January-25-21, 11:03 AM

Pennsylvania Lieutenant Governor John Fetterman looms tall — in person and in politics

John Fetterman, the 6'8" lieutenant-governor of Pennsylvania, is a blunt-talking, self-described progressive intent on breaking through with swing voters, many of whom backed Donald Trump. Contributor Mark Whitaker talks with Fetterman about his efforts to revitalize Pennsylvania's Rust Belt; his outspoken defense against election-related conspiracy theories; and his unabashed Twitter feed that mixes mockery with cold, hard facts.

**Richard** · January-25-21, 11:24 AM

^ their problem is they think anybody that thinks independent of what they are selling is incapable of self thought.

There are reports coming out that are saying that the independents are now a larger party then the democrats or republicans.

It shocks them that people are capable of independent thoughts,so their motive is to combat that.

Interesting how Trump still occupies minds,to bad they cannot open those same minds up to exactly why Trump came about instead of the constant blame game and the need to remain relevant in his shadow.

I did not watch the video,progressive is all I needed to see,no way they are ever going to embrace a economic nationalist.

**Zacha341** · January-25-21, 11:43 AM

^ If not the independent party per se growing, for sure more independent thinking. The radical left and other extremists in the dem party have over-played their hand, especially their efforts of 'bundling' anyone not agreeing with their full platform. It's starting to look too high-definition 4K heavy-handed to justify - withstanding the Trump factors.

Also, is their pandering to black people. I've shared more than a few convos with friends and family about that. Not just a few of us are watching the gift-bearers and gift horse therein carefully.

Knowing that the price is more 'handling' and unquestioning alliance. Alliance which wont be guaranteed as many black people tend towards conservative, yet from a non-republican/ GOP [[easy to nail down and demonize) position. This sorta jacks up the oppression/ allegiance scale along the road of intersectionality -- as it's revised, and revised yet again.

The far-left etc were not counting on this intelligence on our part from their own residual, eh, supremacy [[I guess they're working that out as they go) -- as most never bothered to check or REALLY know who they so call claim to champion. And they refuse to get or accept and UPDATE!!!

IMO, in regards to thinking [[or being consumed by) about Trump, I think too many people think focus on him solely in to their need to affirm or not affirm their world-view. Not me. For example, what's more important beyond any standing politician is the freedom to disagree and not be punished. Now that's a relevancy that needs to return!

**jcole** · January-25-21, 12:43 PM

I love Fetterman and have been following him for years, since he became Mayor of Braddock, PA. A big man with a huge heart.

Originally Posted by Jimaz

Pennsylvania Lieutenant Governor John Fetterman looms tall — in person and in politics

**bust** · January-25-21, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by jcole

I love Fetterman and have been following him for years, since he became Mayor of Braddock, PA. A big man with a huge heart.

Me too, but I haven't followed him as long.

I was glad he was wrong when he predicted Biden wouldn't win Pennsylvania unless his energy policy was more supportive of fracking. But it was a legitimate concern, especially where he's from in W. PA. Our views are always shaped, in part, by the socio-economic context in which we live.

I hope he keeps doing what he's doing and stays clean.

We need more leaders like him.

**jcole** · January-25-21, 02:35 PM

I hope he stays clean too; it's not easy in the political and social climate we're in right now, believe me.

Originally Posted by bust

Me too, but I haven't followed him as long.

I was glad he was wrong when he predicted Biden wouldn't win Pennsylvania unless his energy policy was more supportive of fracking. But it was a legitimate concern, especially where he's from in W. PA. Our views are always shaped, in part, by the socio-economic context in which we live.

I hope he keeps doing what he's doing and stays clean.

We need more leaders like him.

**Jimaz** · January-25-21, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by jcole

I love Fetterman and have been following him for years, since he became Mayor of Braddock, PA. A big man with a huge heart.

I've met a few physical giants [[think top one percentile) over the years and one trait they all had in common was that gentle kindness.

I spent a vacation with one and was surprised to learn of the initial reaction he often received from strangers. It was fear. His size alone frightened them. It must have felt like an undeserved ostracism. Imagine encountering that every time you walk in public.

I think that gentle kindness is a learned compensation — an attempt to preempt others' fears.

What we need is more of that and less of the incendiary talk.

JohnFetterman.com

**jcole** · January-25-21, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by Jimaz

I've met a few physical giants [[think top one percentile) over the years and one trait they all had in common was that gentle kindness.

I spent a vacation with one and was surprised to learn of the initial reaction he often received from strangers. It was fear. His size alone frightened them. It must have felt like an undeserved ostracism. Imagine encountering that every time you walk in public.

I think that gentle kindness is a learned compensation — an attempt to preempt others' fears.

What we need is more of that and less of the incendiary talk.

**Richard** · January-26-21, 01:18 PM

FBI agents arrested ‘Walkaway’ founder Brandon Straka on Monday for his ‘actions’ at the US Capitol on January 6.
The ‘WalkAway’ campaign began on Facebook in the summer of 2018 after Straka, a handsome, gay hairdresser from New York posted a video explaining why he was walking away from the Democrat party.

Court documents show that officials were tipped off about Straka posting a video near the Capitol entrance, shouting “go, go!” The video was later removed and officials said they could not find any video or posts on his Twitter page relating to his actions at the Capitol.
However, the FBI was sent multiple screenshots. These screenshots reportedly revealed that Straka made the following comments on Twitter on Jan. 6.:
“Patriots at the Capitol – HOLD. THE. LINE!!!!”
“I arrived at the Capitol a few hours ago as Patriots were storming from all sides. I was quite close to entering myself as police began tear-gassing us from the door. I inhaled tear gas & got it in my eyes. Patriots began exiting shortly after saying Congress had been cleared.”

Also- be embarrassed & hide if you need to- but I was there. It was not Antifa at the Capitol. It was freedom loving Patriots who were DESPERATE to fight for the final hope of our Republic because literally nobody cares about them. Everyone else can denounce them. I will not.”
“Perhaps I missed the part where it was agreed this would be a revolution of ice cream cones & hair-braiding parties to take our government back from lying, cheating globally interested swamp parasites. My bad.”

https://conservativefighters.co/news...randon-straka/

It would appear as though the public is a bit confused as to who was there and who was Trump supporter patriots and who was the Marxist patriots inciting voilence.

His own statements say that they left after the word was passed that the floor was cleared.

On the surface it also appears as if the real intent was to disrupt the count on the floor,no different then when the previous capital building storming where all the politicians stayed seated as everybody filled the floor in protest.

**canuck** · January-27-21, 10:16 AM

Here is one great patriot in the congress serving [[?) the 14th congressional district in the State of Georgia. Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Support for executing prominent Democrats

CNN reported on January 26, 2021 that Greene had expressed support via comments and 'likes' for the execution of leading Democrats on her Facebook page in 2018 and 2019, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Nancy Pelosi, as well as FBI agents.^[52]^[9] To the question from one poster in April 2018 who asked "Now do we get to hang them ?? Meaning H & O???," she responded: "Stage is being set. Players are being put in place. We must be patient. This must be done perfectly or liberal judges would let them off." She did not deny the indications of support but maintained, "Over the years, I've had teams of people manage my pages. Many posts have been liked. Many posts have been shared. Some did not represent my views."^[52]House Speaker Nancy Pelosi described the meme as a "dangerous threat of violence," and Omar demanded that the meme be deleted after claiming it had already triggered death threats.^[23] In response to questions from Forbes about whether the meme was a threat, a spokesperson for the Greene campaign called the suggestion "paranoid and ridiculous" and a "conspiracy theory".^[25] Facebook deleted the meme the following day for violating its policies on inciting violence, prompting Greene to claim that Democrats were "trying to cancel me out before I've even taken the oath of office".^[26]