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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    ... highways through the center of every city with zero thought of unintended consequences.
    Not to mention that GM killed off our streetcar system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Whalley View Post
    Not to mention that GM killed off our streetcar system.
    Watch they will use lessons learned from that and do the same thing,they are all about mass production and market share,it’s the only way they survive.

    See how it plays out.

    Gas goes back up to $5 per gallon or more.

    EPA restrictions make any car over 5 years old costly to upgrade,like California did with the “clunker” program.

    States will implement strict emission standards on top of the EPA with testing sites.

    Those still left driving fossil fuel cars will be taxed a green energy tax that will be more then the value of the car.

    The insurance companies will jump on the bandwagon and charge an extra fee for gasoline powered cars.

    So sure you will have a choice but not really,even more so those in fixed income or low income who will not be able to buy a $30,000 EC. So they can walk,but on broken roads because the base is fossil fuel.

    The most interesting part is GM itself can cut its workforce by 3/4 because they will follow the path of Germany and use the new technology to where it only takes a couple of hundred to run a factory.

    No more union,Michigan also looses billions a year because they also supply the rest of the country with replacement parts for all of those cars they are wanting to eliminate.

    Just because you can does not mean you should,that was the whole purpose of the bailouts,they were not to save the companies they were to keep people employed.

    Now that everything is hunky dory making record profit it is time to take control and workers be damned.

    Not to sidestep into politics in this thread but the next four years is going to be the realm of large corporation control,look what is already happening,large corporations are considered essential businesses and the mom n pop are not and the more that happens the more record profit the majors see.

    When we look at the trillions of dollars that are going to be pumped into all of this,who is going to pay for it and how,it will not be the large corporations,they will be the ones collecting the grants etc.

    If a shoe shop changes the way shoes are made and now needs less employees to make the same amount of shoes,is that better for the country as a whole when you have now created a force of people that with no job cannot afford to buy the product?

    I am not buying it that GM says we are going to make 40% of EV cars,they cannot because it is not enough to offset the competition that will jump in,they will have to either eat the losses or get more taxpayer offsets to cover it.

    Then it will be not only will people be forced to drive EVs it will be much more expensive to do so,because on the back end they are having to pay more taxes to the manufacturer so they can build them in order to sell them to you.

    So you end up paying them to build a car,that they will then sell to you.
    Last edited by Richard; December-07-20 at 07:44 PM.

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