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  1. #901

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    Quote Originally Posted by SammyS View Post
    Most of the country thinks
    Source?


    [[hint: you're wrong)
    Last edited by Scottathew; January-04-21 at 06:06 PM.

  2. #902

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    This just in, Trump loses in Michigan court, again, again, and again.

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:Monday, Jan. 4, 2021


    US District Judge Denies Motion to Overturn Election
    LANSING – In a spirited opinion, US District Judge James E. Boasberg of the DC District Court today denied plaintiffs’ motion for a preliminary injunction in Wisconsin Voters Alliance et.al. v Vice President Michael R Pence et.al. Boasberg’s opinion concluded by saying that “the plaintiffs have established no likelihood of success on the merits here …”


    In his opinion, Judge Boasberg said: “Plaintiffs’ aims in this election challenge are bold indeed: they ask this Court to declare unconstitutional several decades-old federal statutes governing the appointment of electors and the counting of electoral votes for President of the United States; to invalidate multiple state statutes regulating the certification of Presidential votes; to ignore certain Supreme Court decisions; and, the coup de grace, to enjoin the U.S. Congress from counting the electoral votes on January 6, 2021, and declaring Joseph R. Biden the next President.”


    The action by voter groups and individual voters from the states of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Arizona was brought against Pence in his capacity as President of the US Senate, both Houses of Congress and the Electoral College itself, and several leaders of the five named states.


    At the same time they filed their complaint, the plaintiffs also moved for a preliminary injunction that would enjoin the certifying of the electors from the five states and the counting of their electoral votes. The judge noted that: “In addition to being filed on behalf of Plaintiffs without standing and [[at least as to the state Defendants) in the wrong court and with no effort to even serve their adversaries, the suit rests on a fundamental and obvious misreading of the Constitution. It would be risible were its target not so grave: the undermining of a democratic election for President of the United States. The Court will deny the Motion.”


    The judge also noted that the Court had immediately directed the plaintiffs to file proofs of service and yet, 12 days later, the plaintiffs had failed to provide the court with any proof of notice, proof of service, or any explanation for why those were not forthcoming.


    In a scathing conclusion, Judge Boasberg wrote:


    “Yet even that may be letting Plaintiffs off the hook too lightly. Their failure to make any effort to serve or formally notify any Defendant — even after reminder by the Court in its Minute Order — renders it difficult to believe that the suit is meant seriously. Courts are not instruments through which parties engage in such gamesmanship or symbolic political gestures. As a result, at the conclusion of this litigation, the Court will determine whether to issue an order to show cause why this matter should not be referred to its Committee on Grievances for potential discipline of Plaintiffs’ counsel.”

  3. #903

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    I guess the question moving forward is does the Republican Party believe in democracy anymore? If they win the White House again in the future will they make damn sure that they never lose a election ever again? Sounds like it with the ‘find the votes’ crap from a sitting President.

  4. #904

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottathew View Post
    Source?


    [[hint: you're wrong)
    Nah, you're wrong

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...election-fraud
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  5. #905

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    Since no one can prove that Detroit is located in Georgia, I move the thread be closed.

  6. #906

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcole View Post
    I don't read your posts past the first two sentences. let alone click on your probably wormy links.

    Because you cannot handle the truth.

    Notice how when you are presented with facts,you turn it in me personally.

    Which proves you guys are not concerned about facts,proof and free and fair elections,only if you lose.

    I can also post a link that shows democrats doing the same exact things in previous elections,even down to walking out during the congressional electoral vote count.

    But nobody is interested in,it was okay for the democrats to do the exact same thing happing now but not the republicans.

    Short convenient term memory.

  7. #907

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottathew View Post
    This just in, Trump loses in Michigan court, again, again, and again.
    If you remember correctly that judge is the same judge that sits on the FISA court and signed off on allowing other federal agencies to spy on the Trump campaign in 2016.

    Also if you remember correctly he signed off on that warrant so the federal government could spy on American citizens based on a fake document provided to him,that he knew was fake.

    So his ruling is no surprise and any sitting judge that authorized federal agencies to spy on US citizens should not even be allowed to be on the bench.

    But the left will say,it is okay for the federal government to spy on US citizens based on zero evidence and it was Trump so it was okay.

  8. #908

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    When they pissed on the constitution and refused to allow the bi partisan viewing of the voting process,it is called systematic voter fraud.
    And Drumpf defecates on it.

  9. #909

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    ^ How Bipartisan.

    I'm quite certain Detroit will have great buyers remorse and non-participant [[citizens not endorsing Biden or Trump for president), captive audience disgust from all of this.
    Last edited by Zacha341; January-05-21 at 04:36 AM.

  10. #910

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    The GA voting systems manager literally went through Trump's call point by point. In summation "This is all easily provably false yet the president persists "

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ers-to-turnout

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEYvOTvqlFs


    Last edited by MSUguy; January-04-21 at 08:29 PM.

  11. #911

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSUguy View Post
    The GA voting systems manager literally went through Trump's call point by point. In summation "This is all easily provably false yet the president persists "

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ers-to-turnout

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEYvOTvqlFs


    Yup.


  12. #912

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    Richard and SammyS.... sorry but the terms used by Trump... "People are saying..." and "More voters agree..." are totally useless in a court of law, which explains the now 61-1 [[loss/win) legal standing that he uses as evidence to prove voter fraud.

    Courts [[both Republican and Democrat appointed judges) are debunking these claims... so at some point it's time to just give it a rest...

  13. #913

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gistok View Post
    Richard and SammyS.... sorry but the terms used by Trump... "People are saying..." and "More voters agree..." are totally useless in a court of law, which explains the now 61-1 [[loss/win) legal standing that he uses as evidence to prove voter fraud.

    Courts [[both Republican and Democrat appointed judges) are debunking these claims... so at some point it's time to just give it a rest...
    Don’t get mad, it will all be over soon
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  14. #914

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gistok View Post
    Richard and SammyS.... sorry but the terms used by Trump... "People are saying..." and "More voters agree..." are totally useless in a court of law, which explains the now 61-1 [[loss/win) legal standing that he uses as evidence to prove voter fraud.

    Courts [[both Republican and Democrat appointed judges) are debunking these claims... so at some point it's time to just give it a rest...
    Key word being legal standing.

    Have you actually read the decisions ? A majority were discharged because they went over the time constraints and were never actually heard.

    A majority were ruled on before the case a was even presented and based solely on the judges feeling that the case had no merit.

    No need to even go to court if the judges can make decisions like that.

    How come states fought so hard to not let voting machines be tested or ballots to be forensic analyzed?

    They did that to run out the clock,why would they need to run out the clock if they had nothing to hide?

    If the goal is to provide a transparent election,why stonewall when it is in everyone’s interests to know?

    can you answer those simple questions honestly?

    Even closer to you

    Why did the democrats at the TCF center refuse to allow bi partisan viewing of the process,which the proof was recorded for the world to see on tv,if they were willing to provide a transparent election?

    You know as well as I do the city would be in flames if the republicans had tried that.

    When a division of the United States intelligence community gets up and lies to the American public in saying that this was the most secure election in the history of the country,and that lie is drummed into and repeated by every liberal socialist inbred state media source,giving it a rest is the last thing we should be doing.

    When the next day after an election,while votes are still being counted and the state media immediately starts drumming up that there was no fraud,giving it a rest is the last thing we should be doing.

    When a group of people stand up and lecture about democracy while at the same time removing it from the process,simply because they do not personally like the opposition they have no issues forgoing it,giving it a rest is the last thing we should be doing.

    Like you posted before,that is some banana republic stuff right there.

    Bernie Sanders is a happy man right now,he is second row seat watching his Democratic socialism unfold right in front of him.

    Speaking to the House Gov't Affairs Committee, Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger calls for an end to no-excuse absentee voting in Georgia. Says it opens the door to fraud, even though his office has maintained that there's no evidence of widespread fraud from Nov. 3.

    Well either it does or it doesn’t.

    That is a claim made by both parties for many years,but all of the sudden in 2020, it becomes the way to have the most secure election in the history of the country.

    Yea okay give it a rest,nothing to see here,move along.





    Last edited by Richard; January-05-21 at 12:43 AM.

  15. #915

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Bernie Sanders is... Democratic
    Agreed, unlike many fascist politicians Sanders believes in our constitutional system of government.

  16. #916

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    At this point I have no idea how any decent American can still support Donald Trump.

    The congressional vote on Wednesday will tell us exactly who supports American democracy and the rule of law, and who believes democracy should be destroyed and the law ignored in the interest of getting their own way in a deeply undemocratic and un-American coup d'etat attempt. The president has certainly now made it clear exactly where he stands.

  17. #917

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    When they pissed on the constitution and refused to allow the bi partisan viewing of the voting process,it is called systematic voter fraud.
    Excuse me, It's already been documented by both "sides" and "non-partisan" election watchers, and also workers/officials, that both parties were allowed to view the process. There were capacity limits on D/R/non P observers alike, and when they were exceeded, no more were allowed in. Hardly anything to cry "foul" over. That "captured on TV" shit was after capacity was exceeded, the republicans were already in there.
    However, if you're grasping at straws, and feel covid is a hoax, I guess that means folks should be able to push in and crowd shoulder to shoulder, right? I call BS on that opinion.
    Last edited by Vic01; January-05-21 at 04:41 AM.

  18. #918

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottathew View Post
    Source?


    [[hint: you're wrong)

    That is why Fox News is Trump News.

  19. #919

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    According to this article, one Michigan vote dump at 6:31am delivered 141,258 votes for Biden [[96%) and 5,968 [[4%) votes for Trump. I find that statistically unlikely. No large identifiable group voted 96% for Biden. I had previously seen another chart of various vote dumps in Detroit ranging from 92% to 99% for Biden but can't find that now. Since I question the source of this information, maybe someone else here can locate a timeline chart of vote dumps in Detroit with percentages of Biden/Trump votes.

    Anything above notwithstanding, I support the timely transition to Biden for continuity in government even though I'm skeptical of vote dumps and voting machines set up like computerized casino slot machines favoring the house [[Biden). I'm a paper ballot kind of guy.

    States get to determine their own results according to the Constitution. We deserve to get what we vote for whether the vote is altered or not. If our society allows corrupt elections, that is all the more reason we should be be punished for the results. The stock market went down 400 points yesterday on the hint that Democrats will win Georgia Senate races and flip the Senate.

    However, along with declaring Biden President for lack of evidence and/or courts not wanting to get involved, the investigation into voting irregularities should continue to punish criminals and to identify how to have cleaner more uniform national elections.

  20. #920

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    I had previously seen another chart of various vote dumps in Detroit ranging from 92% to 99% for Biden but can't find that now. Since I question the source of this information, maybe someone else here can locate a timeline chart of vote dumps in Detroit with percentages of Biden/Trump votes.
    Detroit voted about 95% for Biden. I can't find a number on it, but the general consensus is that more democrats voted absentee and more republicans voted in person, so it doesn't seem that unlikely that a large number of the final votes counted were for Biden, given that absentee ballots are counted after the polls close and Detroit is historically one of the last areas to report their votes.

    Regardless, the timing of a "dump" is wholly irrelevant because it simply puts a time at which the votes were reported to the SOS, and has nothing to do with then they were cast or counted. Townships or precincts with a few hundred people are obviously going to be able to count and report their votes much sooner than a large city, especially when they have to count 100,000+ absentee ballots.

  21. #921

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    The stock market went down 400 points yesterday on the hint that Democrats will win Georgia Senate races and flip the Senate.
    The stock market went down yesterday because the markets realized we don't have a national plan to properly disperse the vaccines that are available, new mutations exist, European lockdowns were again initiated, and the same is likely headed our way before this is over. Welcome to the world of fake pandemic claims and mask-less New Year's Eve parties.

    Why is that Repugnants still refuse to acknowledge that Dear Leader's recent phone call to the Georgia S.O.S. of his own party, was of the same ilk of his call to the Ukraine, the same treatment Comey, his own Attorney General, his own Senate Majority Leader, and now his own Vice President received ? Whatever you do, don't put 2 + 2 together.

    As for J Cole's question, is Lisa McClain questioning her own victory ?

    I'm all for a follow-up on voting procedures and any irregularities that may have occurred. The same happened in 2016 when Trump claimed millions of illegal votes occurred in California. What happened with that spirited inquiry ? Check the dust-bin of history.

  22. #922

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    Once again... Detroit's presidential results over the last 4 elections... you can spin it any way you want to... nothing out of the ordinary here...
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    Gotta love our "Banana Republic" presidential behavior...

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jud...eorgia-results

    Trumps comment about "recalculating" the Georgia results... Priceless!!

    Maybe he should have taken some tips on Belarus's president Alexander Lukashenko... who "won" this years presidential election with 80% of the vote. Maybe that's the kind of "recalculating" that Trump would have liked... so he could add bragging rights to his victory... we all know how he loves to brag...
    Last edited by Gistok; January-05-21 at 01:29 PM.

  24. #924

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    ...one Michigan vote dump at 6:31am delivered 141,258 votes for Biden [[96%) and 5,968 [[4%) votes for Trump. I find that statistically unlikely. No large identifiable group voted 96% for Biden.
    Only dyed in the wool right wing believers still believe these conspiracy theories. And their pushers, if even they do.

    Debunking them is exhausting. That's exactly their "flood the zone with sh¡t" strategy, courtesy of Steve Bannon, and employed by the sh¡t-talker-in-chief ever since his first election campaign.

    This one is easily explained by the FACT that these "late night vote dumps" were partial tallies of early ballots. This has been proven again and again and again. And if any were 96% Biden, what would you expect? Not only have Detroiters voted around that heavily for Democrats for decades, Trump is a clear racist, and he did everything to discourage early voting. The vast majority of his believers did as they were told and waited to vote in person. Biden encouraged early voting. It's a helluva a lot safer during a pandemic after all.

    When this is all over I do hope the brainwashed Trump zombies put down their torches and regain some common sense and a soul.
    Last edited by bust; January-05-21 at 02:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SammyS View Post
    Don’t get mad, it will all be over soon
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    Nice job. You look about as I expected. That's what happens when you can't tear your eyes away from the enraged crybabies on far-right media, YouTube, and message boards.

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