Former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick may be released!

**jcole** · May-22-20, 08:56 AM

I'll just put this here for now
https://wwjnewsradio.radio.com/artic...-prison-report

"Former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick will be released from federal prison, according to reports — most likely due to the pandemic.

"According to a Friday news release from the Ebony Foundation, Kilpatrick has been granted early release after serving only seven years of his lengthy sentence.

"Kilpatrick was sentenced to 28 years behind bars, convicted in 2013 on 24 felony counts of public corruption for a criminal racket involving extortion, bribery, conspiracy and fraud. Prosecutors said he used his positions as a state representative and then mayor to enrich himself and his friends.

"He was not expected to be paroled until 2037.

Don't know if it corroborated yet but saying it's possibly due to Covid pandemic

**stasu1213** · May-22-20, 09:20 AM

U hope that it's true

**Chicago48** · November-03-20, 01:51 PM

OOPS! This post is 10 years old!!!!

**jcole** · November-04-20, 09:23 AM

Have you come back from the future to save us???

Originally Posted by Chicago48

OOPS! This post is 10 years old!!!!

**Ray1936** · November-04-20, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by jcole

Have you come back from the future to save us???

**Richard** · May-22-20, 09:24 AM

are you mad at him, or are you scared of him?" the sheriff said.

I guess that is one way to justify things,his incarceration is a result of people being scared of him or mad at him,because he has done nothing wrong and it is the people’s fault he is in jail.

The article comes across like it is a done deal,then says the letter was delivered to Trump without saying it was actually approved.

He must have some pretty dark secrets on some,or doing what he did is just considered okay,no big deal and he should be viewed as a hero.

It reminds me of Italy where they just had a huge mafia round up,then released the heads of the mafia from prison that were serving life sentences,for their safety from the rona virus.

Its the city and its 700,000 residents that suffered and paid the price for his actions and continue to do so,he gets a well supported slap in the wrist and everybody else gets a slap in the face like it is no big deal.

**Cincinnati_Kid** · May-22-20, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Richard

are you mad at him, or are you scared of him?" the sheriff said.

I guess that is one way to justify things,his incarceration is a result of people being scared of him or mad at him,because he has done nothing wrong and it is the people’s fault he is in jail.

The article comes across like it is a done deal,then says the letter was delivered to Trump without saying it was actually approved.

He must have some pretty dark secrets on some,or doing what he did is just considered okay,no big deal and he should be viewed as a hero.

It reminds me of Italy where they just had a huge mafia round up,then released the heads of the mafia from prison that were serving life sentences,for their safety from the rona virus.

Its the city and its 700,000 residents that suffered and paid the price for his actions and continue to do so,he gets a well supported slap in the wrist and everybody else gets a slap in the face like it is no big deal.

Trump's convicted cronies have done worse, yet they've been let out. What's the difference? Not saying what he did was right, but that sentence was very extreme. Double standard here?

**Johnnny5** · May-22-20, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Cincinnati_Kid

Trump's convicted cronies have done worse, yet they've been let out. What's the difference? Not saying what he did was right, but that sentence was very extreme. Double standard here?

I agree that there should not be a double standard, let them all stay in prison!

Punishment for white collar crime is an absolute joke in this country! It appears that the only way these scumbags end up serving anything close to a full sentence is if they make the mistake of stealing from the rich like Maddoff did.

**jcole** · May-22-20, 09:28 AM

A lot of people have done worse and gotten less time. I don't approve of what he did, but he's done more time than a lot of similar white collar criminals and no sense in keeping him in a prison with covid in it

**Richard** · May-22-20, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by jcole

A lot of people have done worse and gotten less time. I don't approve of what he did, but he's done more time than a lot of similar white collar criminals and no sense in keeping him in a prison with covid in it

It was not about what he did,it was about the amount of victims he left in the wake and the long term damage he created.

It is one thing to be corrupt while the city is in good shape,the spoils of politics,the reason he received the higher sentence was because of the amount of victims and damage left in the wake.

**Honky Tonk** · May-22-20, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by jcole

A lot of people have done worse and gotten less time. I don't approve of what he did, but he's done more time than a lot of similar white collar criminals and no sense in keeping him in a prison with covid in it

Here you go cole, just in case you need a refresher. FYI, I voted for him the first time.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwame_Kilpatrick

**jcole** · May-22-20, 12:48 PM

Thanks, Tonk, but I don't need a refresher
And BTW, it's apparently going to be a release from Mr Trump.

Originally Posted by Honky Tonk

Here you go cole, just in case you need a refresher. FYI, I voted for him the first time.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwame_Kilpatrick

**Zacha341** · May-23-20, 07:45 AM

But some do, relative to the specific charges brought up against him.

I still run across some believing he got '28 long' for having an affair and keeping some extra bucks here and there! Having said that I still think 28 years was on the high side... 20 seemed the more reasonable number IMO.

Originally Posted by jcole

Thanks, Tonk, but I don't need a refresher
And BTW, it's apparently going to be a release from Mr Trump.

**Honky Tonk** · May-22-20, 09:30 AM

I hope Kilpatrick releases the 90 million he stole early, because of the effect the coronavirus had on Detroit.

**Metro25** · May-22-20, 09:39 AM

Can somebody explain how this happens? Who is making this decision? I heard something that he'll still be on house arrest, are we sure this isn't temporary because of covid?

**jcole** · May-22-20, 09:46 AM

There is not a lot of info yet; just the one press release from the Ebony Foundation

Originally Posted by Metro25

Can somebody explain how this happens? Who is making this decision? I heard something that he'll still be on house arrest, are we sure this isn't temporary because of covid?

**Jimaz** · May-22-20, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by jcole

There is not a lot of info yet; just the one press release from the Ebony Foundation

Last I heard it hasn't been confirmed but I expect it will be.

They have had COVID at that Oakdale Federal Prison near New Orleans. Eight have died.

Oakdale federal prison resumes and expands COVID-19 testing

The federal prison in Oakdale, Louisiana, where eight prisoners have died of coronavirus, began offering “voluntary universal testing” to prisoners in one of its two main prison facilities last week. Previously, the prison said that it had stopped testing prisoners for the coronavirus — even those showing symptoms — due to “sustained transmission.”

**Jimaz** · May-22-20, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Metro25

Can somebody explain how this happens? Who is making this decision?....

I'm sure a judge has to be involved.

**jcole** · May-22-20, 10:06 AM

It's one foundation saying that they got him released. The Ebony Foundation. There would have to be at least a judge involved

Originally Posted by Jimaz

I'm sure a judge has to be involved.

**jiminnm** · May-22-20, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Jimaz

I'm sure a judge has to be involved.

No judge is involved. The decision to release federal prisoners is made, generally, by the Attorney General and specifically by the Bureau of Prisons.

**Lowell** · May-22-20, 09:50 AM

His sentence might have been a little stiff, but only a very little. IMO the biggest crime he committed, which is not a crime on the books, is destruction of faith in government. What he and his evil sister Bobby Ferguson did was so corrosive. One of the members of this forum who were in on the Vinton Building rehab in the early oughts attempt told me they helped sink that. Such behavior encourages things like tax evasion, scoff-lawing and "if they're getting away with it why shouldn't I" attitudes.

Worst yet they were stealing from an impoverished citizenry. Theft is theft in the eyes of the law but, again, there is not further law for stealing from the poor.

His guilt was well established and he had an opportunity enter a plea and admit his guilt. Instead he chose to run a circus trial and has yet, as far as I seen, to express any remorse for his crimes.

**jcole** · May-22-20, 09:57 AM

I'm only saying that I'm not surprised he was released early, especially if it's based on people dying of Covid in the prison he was/is in. A number of white collar criminals are already released, ie Michael Cohen, Paul Manafort. Kwame was only a matter of time. Let me say here, that I don't approve of what he did and in another time in history, I would be livid that he's getting out but these are not normal times

Originally Posted by Lowell

His sentence might have been a little stiff, but only a very little. IMO the biggest crime he committed, which is not a crime on the books, is destruction of faith in government. What he and his evil sister Bobby Ferguson did was so corrosive. One of the member of this forum who were in on the Vinton Building rehab in the early oughts attempt told me they helped sink that. Such behavior encourages things like tax evasion, scoff-lawing and "if they're getting away with it why shouldn't I" attitudes.

Worst yet they were stealing from an impoverished citizenry. Theft is theft in the eyes of the law but, again, there is not further law for stealing from the poor.

His guilt was well established and he had an opportunity enter a plea and admit his guilt. Instead he chose to run a circus trial and has yet, as far as I seen, to express any remorse for his crimes.

**Lowell** · May-22-20, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by jcole

I'm only saying that I'm not surprised he was released early, especially if it's based on people dying of Covid in the prison he was/is in. A number of white collar criminals are already released, ie Michael Cohen, Paul Manafort. Kwame was only a matter of time. Let me say here, that I don't approve of what he did and in another time in history, I would be livid that he's getting out but these are not normal times

Understood and I could see him being released on tether until Covid19 is contained, especially with the abysmal record of prisons in preventing the spread of the virus, but I still think he owes society more time.

For comparison, renowned Detroit art dealer Sherry Washington served nearly six years for bilking $3.3 million from the Detroit Public Schools through a sham wellness program, a scheme that pales in comparison to Kilpatrick and Ferguson's predations, many including threats of physical violence. Give him a vacation, not a release.

**DeLemur** · May-22-20, 10:05 AM

Agreed. Have him serve 15 years for the serious crimes and syndicate he ran.

Originally Posted by Lowell

His sentence might have been a little stiff, but only a very little. IMO the biggest crime he committed, which is not a crime on the books, is destruction of faith in government. What he and his evil sister Bobby Ferguson did was so corrosive. One of the member of this forum who were in on the Vinton Building rehab in the early oughts attempt told me they helped sink that. Such behavior encourages things like tax evasion, scoff-lawing and "if they're getting away with it why shouldn't I" attitudes.

Worst yet they were stealing from an impoverished citizenry. Theft is theft in the eyes of the law but, again, there is not further law for stealing from the poor.

His guilt was well established and he had an opportunity enter a plea and admit his guilt. Instead he chose to run a circus trial and has yet, as far as I seen, to express any remorse for his crimes.

**Zacha341** · May-23-20, 07:54 AM

Yep. I've often wondered what his lack of contrition has said to his children?

I also found the 'justification' of his actions by some Detroiter's very disturbing at a very self-destructive level! Like you LIVE here and will suffer, but it was ok as the 'take away' was sharing in the thrill of Kilpatrick getting 'over'.

Made even more insane when he left for Texas, leaving us to ourselves ...

...

Yeah that thinking is found elsewhere, especially in realms of 'revenge' politics!

Originally Posted by Lowell

His sentence might have been a little stiff, but only a very little. IMO the biggest crime he committed, which is not a crime on the books, is destruction of faith in government. ....His guilt was well established and he had an opportunity enter a plea and admit his guilt. Instead he chose to run a circus trial and has yet, as far as I seen, to express any remorse for his crimes.