Ferndale, Detroit to host meeting about concerns over 8 Mile & Woodward underpass

[Danny]

"Detroit never has been a gang city."

Looks like someone didn't read their history books!!

Detroit has oodles of street gangs from the past to present. And they not going to vanish.

1. Purple Gang [[ a historic Jewish Gang)
2. The Oakland Sugar House Gang [[a historic Jewish Gang rivals)
3. Zone 8's
4. Il Costa Nostra [[ a Bommarito, Gambino and Gasperatto Crime Families of Gratiot Ave.)
5. Young Bloods Incorporated
6. Mack-Bewick St.
7. Best Friends
8. Curry Brothers [[with White Boy Rick Drug Dealing Crew)
9. Errol Flynns
10. Coney Onlies
11. Black Killers
12. 7 Miles [[classic)
13. 6 Mile Smurfs [[classic)
14. Fenkell Boys
15. 12th Street [[classic)
16. Linwoods [[classic)
17. Schoolcraft Boys [[classic)
18. Bright Mo's [[The Brightmoor Boys classic)
19. Plymouth Boys [[classic)
20. Chi-Towns [[Chicago St. classic)
21. G-Monts [[Grandmont Street classic)
22. Joy Rd's [[classic)
23. Cash Flow Posse
24. Detroit Kings [[Pablo Bonila)
25. Lawndales

Gangs of Detroit Today.

1. W. 7 Mile Crips
2. E. 7 Mile Bloods
3. Dexter Boys
4. Linwoods
5. 12th Street Crips
6. Latin Kings [[They are also in Lincoln Park, MI, too.)
7. 6 Miles
8. Mack Boys
9. East Warren Avenues
10. The NFL's
11. Archdale Clown Squad
12. Joy Rd. Hit Squad
13. Burgess, Chapel and Bentler Squads.

And they are many more Gangs of Detroit that are currently hiding in plain clothes.

[Sehv313]

"Detroit never has been a gang city."

Looks like someone didn't read their history books!!

Detroit has oodles of street gangs from the past to present. And they not going to vanish.

1. Purple Gang [[ a historic Jewish Gang) dead
2. The Oakland Sugar House Gang [[a historic Jewish Gang rivals) dead
3. Zone 8's [[thats an area not a gang)
4. Il Costa Nostra [[ a Bommarito, Gambino and Gasperatto Crime Families of Gratiot Ave.) dead
5. Young Bloods Incorporated [[Young BOYS Inc, 80’s drug crew) dead
6. Mack-Bewick St. [[thats a street not a gang)
7. Best Friends [[80’s drug crew, dead)
8. Curry Brothers [[with White Boy Rick Drug Dealing Crew) [[80’s drug crew, dead)
9. Errol Flynns [[80’s drug crew, dead)
10. Coney Onlies [[who? Ohhh you mean the 8 Mile crew Sconi Onis! Dead)
11. Black Killers [[dead)
12. 7 Miles [[the 7 miles? Lol not real but ok)
13. 6 Mile Smurfs [[you mean the LA’s? Dead in 1980)
14. Fenkell Boys [[dead and anybody from Fenkell is a Fenkell boy)
15. 12th Street [[thats a street not a crew)
16. Linwoods [[same)
17. Schoolcraft Boys [[same)
18. Bright Mo's [[The Brightmoor Boys? No it was BMG, and they are dead too)
19. Plymouth Boys [[not real)
20. Chi-Towns [[not real)
21. G-Monts [[street)
22. Joy Rd's [[street)
23. Cash Flow Posse [[dead)
24. Detroit Kings [[who?)
25. Lawndales [[thats a street)

Gangs of Detroit Today.

1. W. 7 Mile Crips [[who?)
2. E. 7 Mile Bloods [[Red zone, local crew from 48205, not LA, homegrown)
3. Dexter Boys [[that can be anyone from Dexter Ave)
4. Linwoods [[same)
5. 12th Street Crips [[not even real, you probably never even been on 12th and Taylor to verify this)
6. Latin Kings [[you mean the latin counts? Dead in 2012)
7. 6 Miles [[a street not a gang)
8. Mack Boys [[same)
9. East Warrens Avenues [[same)
10. The NFL's [[anyone who lived on linwood says nfl, its a street not a gang)
11. Archdale Clown Squad [[local homegrown clique from one block, and they wasn’t on a crumb, just some lames) dead
12. Hit squad [[a small clique on Joy, dead)

And they are many more Gangs of Detroit that are currently hiding in plain clothes.

I responded to every so called gang you posted and have come to the conclusion that you are speaking on things you don’t know about. I don’t know if you ever lived in the city or not but you clearly don’t live here anymore by your comments. You sound angry at the city and I hope you find peace within yourself. Because almost everything you posted sounds like you live in another country and was mislead from Youtube videos created by people who never even been to Detroit. Please stop trying to paint Detroit as a gang city when it is not we have a bad enough rep as it is. I live here and I’m in these ghettos you speak about every single day, so either go outside or tap in with someone who is.

[Danny]

Then you don't know all about me. Those are real Detroit gangs. Some were historic and long gone and others still around. Don't be fooled by their names. In fact they can call themselves a gang, but some of them end up as cliques or a community socialist revolutionaries like the Vice Lords, Black Panthers or the even White Panthers!

I grew up in Detroit all of my life. Half of family were in the gang mostly my first cousins. Glad I didn't join otherwise my parents will spank me until I grow up. Growing up the ghetto hoods of Detroit during the crack and heroine epidemic to exposing government conspiracies has led me realize what our American society has become a division between rich and poor. And this nation still can't shake off the rich-poor wars.

I know most of the Detroit through stories is from my family members before America Online and YouTubes. Some of my cousins grew up in broken homes, educated schools and getting bullied and beat up in the streets and end up in jail. One was killed by a drug dealer and other spend life in prison for murder. Today most of my cousins are out of the Detroit gangs, got married, went back to school got educated and some went to military and into college or work trades. And most of them moved out of Detroit and into other suburbs and states for a better life. Because they don't want to be in prison or dope addicts for rest of their lives. Prison and death of their homies has changed them. And I'm glad that some of them has done it for their families that they struggle racism and discrimination so that their kids can live the American Dream.

I grew up in stink of the streets of Detroit all of my life. I walk through those hoods hopefully I don't get shot day or night. I ran into fights in schools to the streets. I deal with folks holding knifes and holding me up in gunpoint. I was robbed in Detroit several times from a young kid to an adult.


Therefore you have no ideal what my life in Detroit was like until you step in my shoes.

[Sehv313]

I don’t care about your war stories, you’re family’s life seems like most in the city to me. My question is do you live here now? I do. So what you’re speaking on from the 80’s has nothing to do with what’s currently going on right now.

[Zacha341]

Your argument isn't compelling enough for me Danny to justify calling Detroit a Ghetto Hood. I'm not over-sensitive; easily triggered or ever-ready to site micro-aggressions, etc. However, I find this name-calling a bit slow, and but another form of reductionism of places and people.

I'm not an apologist for the problems or Detroit, especially certain areas. But summarizing the city as a 'ghetto hood', especially beyond discussing buildings and houses presents one more framework that negates the personhood of Detroiter's at a collective level. Another push towards reductionism.

I'm not feeling that. These are difficult times - and I see no value in further dehumanizing our communities with canards like 'Ghetto hood'.

This simplification of complex issues [[advanced also in part by the labeling and name calling in politics) is strategically applied increasing to individuals and groups politically and socially. Nice bundles to be handled. This labeling [[beyond mere words) greatly determines how communities are treated, are seen by others, and see themselves!

More than a few Detroiter's will not sign up - we know the end game of self-loathing. We know that it rarely works out for US to do it. Hotep.

"So NO, I do not agree with your characterization of Detroit being a 'ghetto hood', nor am I naive to the cities problems. You must really hang-out in the worst of areas, which I agree do exist. But I for instance don't live in one."

I used hang out and lived in the ghetto hoods of Detroit for all of my life. Even when the hoods are nice and stable. There are always riff raffs, running about. Now they are everywhere and most of them don't need to visible. They are in disguise to fool the cops. Detroit is not going to get any better until they clean their trash...

[Zacha341]

Update: Both sides of the Eight-mile Woodward intersection are clean my last drive by there [[last Tuesday). The garage door of the nearby property where the homeless persons carts and debris seemed to have been stored is now closed.

[Sehv313]

Update: Both sides of the Eight-mile Woodward intersection are clean my last drive by there [[last Tuesday). The garage door of the nearby property where the homeless persons carts and debris seemed to have been stored is now closed.

It seems like there are the last two guys who seemingly just won't leave on the Detroit side, Ferndale side still seems to be clear. One of the remaining guys is this dude [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5POR7Ed2iiw) who has been there over 10 years.

The corridor is simply just a hot spot for cash, every time I drive by someone is giving them money or goods on that corner, once the money and the goods stop they will leave.

[Baselinepunk]

Items are located southwest corner of Stanley's Other Place parking lot with a large board to block the view from the street.

[Danny]

Metro-Detroit and suburbs is not going to end up like L.A.'s Skid Row. So far the suburban communities will do everything in their power to keep homeless folks away from squatting under freeway overpasses or any vacant homes. However they do allow them to panhandle on the streets.

Speaking of Skid Row, here is word from sponsors...


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[Cincinnati_Kid]

Update: Both sides of the Eight-mile Woodward intersection are clean my last drive by there [[last Tuesday). The garage door of the nearby property where the homeless persons carts and debris seemed to have been stored is now closed.

Drove by there today, to go to a industrial cleaning store on the corner of Woodward and 8 Mile. They are back. Saw at least 5 homeless people with their mattresses, shopping carts, and personal items. So where ever they were, they weren't gone very long. Hope they can resolve the situation. It's sad.

[Danny]

On the Detroit side or the Ferndale Side or both sides?

[Dan Wesson]

Metro-Detroit and suburbs is not going to end up like L.A.'s Skid Row. So far the suburban communities will do everything in their power to keep homeless folks away from squatting under freeway overpasses or any vacant homes. However they do allow them to panhandle on the streets.

Speaking of Skid Row, here is word from sponsors...


https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0442...7i16384!8i8192

I be reading where some folk want to move them folk down to ocean front beaches. Sun, fun, bums, California Dreamin.
Maybe Belle Isle or better yet Lakeshore Drive would be a good spot to relocate the unfortunate.

Danny, I can relate, I be pickin up what you be layin down. You ain't lyin.
Just some folk here don't cotton to you talkin shit about the D.
Trouble is you have way more ammo than you need to defend your stance. Sad state of affairs indeed.

[Zacha341]

^^^ Say what?

[Cincinnati_Kid]

On the Detroit side or the Ferndale Side or both sides?

Both sides.

[Zacha341]

^ The Ferndale side is clear of debris and folks. For now.

[takascar]

^^ I'm sure you'd rather they just shoot'em and toss'em in the river.

No, how about making them work for a living.

I'm sick and tired of people worrying about their "rights" and not spending enough thinking about their RESPONSIBILITIES.

You have a RESPONSIBILITY to support yourself and not be a burden to your family or society.

You have a RESPONSIBILITY to stay clean and off drugs - being a junkie is no excuse and should garner you no sympathy from anyone, nor any claim on anyone's charity, and especially not the forced charity of taxpayer subsidies.

Why should I, someone who didn't make these mistakes have to pay for your poor choices in life? You need to live with the consequences of your actions. Maybe if that happened more often, more people would "miraculously" make better choices.

How about we say, either get a job or we put you in prison and make you work making license plates or other things for the people who are working.

How about we provide meaningful job training for people, but REQUIRE them to take the initiative to take advantage of it.

I think decent, hard working, taxpaying citizens who actually do the work to make society function have a right to walk down the street without having to look at the unsightly homeless encampments.

I think the police should make that a reality. Both the homeless people and society would be better off in the long run. Living on the street is a dead end.

[Sehv313]

Drove by today, the Ferndale side is still clear but the Detroit side has atleast 3 people who have moved back to that location. It’s usually a overweight woman who panhandles by the 8 mile stoplight before the underpass, and two males who panhandle along the SE corner of the intersection across from Auto Zone. I’ve even seen a tent set up next in the commercial lot next to Stanley’s on the SW corner too, that area must be a cash hot spot for the homeless because they keep coming back.