How many COVID-19 patients have gotten care at TCF Center?

[Richard]

So would it make everybody feel more comfortable if those who were not effected jumped off of a thirty story building so they can feel the pain?

This will pass,the next step is the bill needs to be paid for a long time to come,is it necessary to destroy a city and state for years to come in order to save them?

People know others are dying,it is plastered on the news 24/7,nobody likes to see others die,even more so when nobody can say why they are dying or what they are dying from,but lets shut down the world.

So you have a entire state now shut down,you have a section that is hard hit,is it best practice at this point to make the entire state feel the pain?

When it could be working and paying taxes and generating revenue for the state and also allocating more resources to where they are needed?

The state still is running,it is still costing money when revenue has dropped to a halt,when this passes the bills will come due,what happens now will impact the city and state for years to come,how it happens will determine the economic future for years to come.

Is it not better to put those who are in less danger back to work filling the coffers back up and adding to a depleted supply chain,so once this does pass the impact is less devastating?

6000 teenagers died last year from cell phone distracted driving,nobody locked their cell phones in a drawer to save lives,they accepted that loss so they could use their cell phone.

2018 80,000 Americans died from the flu,who knew or even gave it a second thought?

2018 72,000 died from drug overdose

etc etc etc

Nobody is dyeing from anything anymore but the coronavirus.

[Zacha341]

^^^ It's not an either/ or construct.

It's both/ AND.

People were already dying for various reasons and now they are dying from COVID-19!

The distinction of C-19, worth noting, has already been addressed.

[CR75]

People were conned. Preparations were made based on bad information and hype. Businesses suffered huge losses. Civil rights were violated.

Spot on. It would have been helpful to look at the actual data and make a democratic decision before throwing 30 million [[and counting) people under the bus 'out of an abundance of caution'.

Y'all on this forum claim to have lots of friends in the medical field. Good for you. I have friends who lost their jobs, and instead of taking to the streets in rage they took one for the team. They are heroes too, in my book.

[Richard]

^^^ It's not an either/ or construct.

It's both/ AND.

People were already dying for various reasons and now they are dying from COVID-19!

The distinction of C-19, worth noting, has already been addressed.

With the typical flu season dropping off,if the death rates drop off in sync, then we will know.

If the death rate increases in the areas that are loosening restrictions then we will also know.

The only thing we do know is what we are told,which changes from day to day and it is a deadly virus that kills people.

We just do not know for certain how many in order to take the proper steps to prevent future deaths.That is the issue.

What we want to know,is it necessary to drive a thumb tack in with a sledgehammer or can we just take the proper measures and gently push it in.

As it stands now,we will never know proper steps to take in the future,because of the lack of clarity in the present.

[Bigdd]

40,000 die EVERY MONTH, EVERY YEAR from smoking in the USA.

And that has no redeeming value like, say,.... driving cars [[which also have a high death toll associated with them,.. but are also a backbone of the economy).

"IF" the government really cared about lives,.. wouldn't it just declare a state of emergency nation-wide and ban all smoking?

[401don]

40,000 die EVERY MONTH, EVERY YEAR from smoking in the USA.

And that has no redeeming value like, say,.... driving cars [[which also have a high death toll associated with them,.. but are also a backbone of the economy).

"IF" the government really cared about lives,.. wouldn't it just declare a state of emergency nation-wide and ban all smoking?

And this has approximately the same death rate. There have been 70,000 deaths in 9 weeks. I don't think the gov't, especially this one, cares about saving lives but smokers choose to kill themselves. People acquiring the virus do not, especially all the health care workers who have given their lives. Should the hospitals stop admitting people who might have the virus?

[Zacha341]

It's a mess on so many sides. Everyone has their dog in the fight it seems.

Personal to politics, thru politics as policies never imagined go forth.

The country pre-COVID-19 was split down the middle for most people; nearly everything judged thru an un-yeilding partisan perspective.

Educators [[especially K12) for example are especially caught in the middle. Early on for example, the NY mayor wanted schools to stay open and now with their extremely high COVID numbers it's being argued that the schools closed a week too late! Schools will need to adapt for changed learning/ socialization/ and even seating plans... going forth or we could see more cases [[or a resurgence in cases) - especially in denser populations. Who will stand for the safety of teachers and students sans the politics?

On it goes. In other settings and employment clusters [[in the C-19 context) we see can see an easy tipping point if not addressed correctly.

As it stands education costs secondary and post secondary will go up... straining states with high C-29 numbers. More monies distributed from the ever-churning government press.

Everyone at each other throats relative to who/ what is protected; safety, policy, funding and priorities bound in politics. Additionally, I don't feel a one-size-fits all response is the solution. There has has to be a balance!

[Metro25]

Well it's closed now, that was fast.

TCF Center Field Hospital in Detroit 'officially closed,' Mayor Duggan says
https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...ys/3090139001/