Gas Prices Low! FOR NOW...

[Richard]

Electric cars won't solve anything. You know that as soon as a majority of people switch over to them, they'll suddenly have to triple electricity rates, right?

I mean, they can't let the consumer come out ahead.

That will be next,my electric company is already charging an additional $35 per month for Future Green Energy costs.

Imagine the interest alone banking $35 per customer per month for millions of customers?

[admin]

Please keep political banter and name calling off this thread and address the topic only or this thread will be closed.

[Rocket]

https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=MI

Regular up almost 90 cents in a month, from $4.34 to $5.21

Premium from $4.98 to $5.86

The Mobil by me is $6.31 for premium today.

Wondering if we'll get to $7 and $7.50 by mid Summer.

We're on track I suppose.


Some politician was just on the news pushing to get the president to suspend the federal gas tax. But that's only 27 cents a gallon. When gas is going up 90 cents a month, you wonder if it matters anymore.

[Vic01]

Please keep political banter and name calling off this thread and address the topic only or this thread will be closed.

Thank You!

[MikeM]

Was just in Europe; all the local news stations there are running stories about high gas prices, so it's not a USA problem.

Still waiting to see some E15 stations show up around here.

[Bong-Man]

Researchers Find E-Bikes Outpacing Electric Cars Sales in the U.S. [[bicycling.com)

I'm seeing more and more and haven't met one person disappointed in their purchase. Top speed of 20 mph, and one charge in a normal 115v outlet lasts for numerous trips and errands around town. Perfect for an urban or college campus environment. Unlike an electric cart, they can pretty much go anywhere, and seem to be quite a hit with seniors as gas prices continue to rise.

[Zacha341]

Thanks for article! Nice for moderate exercise - especially if you have challenges such as knee problems. The 'electric' option can make going uphill made easier but peddling gets the cardio going. Not interested in biking for transportation, but a light bike trail on one of these could be awesome.

[MikeM]

Offered without comment:

How fracking powered the energy industry's biggest party — and a nasty hangover

[Richard]

Was just in Europe; all the local news stations there are running stories about high gas prices, so it's not a USA problem.

Still waiting to see some E15 stations show up around here.

Stands to reason,when we went from self sufficient to depending on the global market,we are going to be in the same ditch as the rest of the world .

That is the whole concept of being self reliant,so you are not subject to the rest of the world dictating prices to us.

[Henry Whalley]

It's ridiculous. Something's gotta give, or a crash is looming.

The World Bank subtly posed the prospect of stagflation.
Global Economic Prospects June 2022 [[worldbank.org)

[softailrider]

Yeah!!! The noise and pollution electric vehicles make are just crazy! Are they trying to kill us? I can't believe they are promoting clean cars. How EVIL. I want my diesel truck with big stacks so I can coal roll some sissy libs!

The guy I use to turn on my sprinkling system came out last Monday. He drives a Dodge diesel pickup truck. He has the bed of the truck partitioned off with drawers where he keeps tools and fittings and those type of items. He replaced a sprinkler head and capped something off, he had everything he needed in his truck. Do you expect him to drive over in a Chevrolet Volt or a used Dodge Neon or something? Lots of people have a need for truck type vehicles to do their job.

This area has crappy mass transit, with little or no hope for improvement anytime in the near future. People have to go to work, people have to go places. Not everyone can afford to replace their vehicle with an electric car, it isn't feasible for most people. The current administration's stance on this issue is out of touch with reality for almost everyone.

[ABetterDetroit]

Stands to reason,when we went from self sufficient to depending on the global market,we are going to be in the same ditch as the rest of the world .

That is the whole concept of being self reliant,so you are not subject to the rest of the world dictating prices to us.

Global markets are now bad? It is called Capitalism. Is there a problem with that now to Dick? Looking for some Government price controls are ya? End democracy, get the government propaganda news rolling with the “narrative” and now price controls. Your platform sounds pretty screwed up these days. Certainly not remotely American, more like straight from the book on Socialism.

[Richard]

Global markets are now bad? It is called Capitalism. Is there a problem with that now to Dick? Looking for some Government price controls are ya? End democracy, get the government propaganda news rolling with the “narrative” and now price controls. Your platform sounds pretty screwed up these days. Certainly not remotely American, more like straight from the book on Socialism.

Actually all I said was it stands to reason when you are connected to the global market it has consequences.

So you took that and spun it into something in your own twisted little mind.

I do not know what dick has to do with anything other then it must be in your mind to think like that.

Do you understand what self sufficient means,apparently not,when we went from net exporting to importing oil we lost our bargaining power,I do not care about the global market,it is the responsibility of those in charge to make sure the global market works in our best interests,maybe if you did not have Dick on your mind you would understand what a 3rd grader would.

But then again you do not even understand that we are a republic and democracy has zero to do with it,maybe you should stick to Dick,because you clearly understand little.

OPEC sets the price 95% of the OPEC countries that set the price are sworn enemies of the United States,you do not cut production in this country in order to give your sworn enemies billions in oil revenue.

The United States president cannot set the price for oil,the only thing they can do is ramp up production in this country in order to dictate price to OPEC by flooding the market with cheap oil exports which drove the price down.

• The top five crude oil producers and their percentage shares of world crude oil production in 2021 were:
• United States14.5%
• Russia13.1%
• Saudi Arabia12.1%
• Canada5.8%
• Iraq5.3%

2021 Russia and Saudi were in a oil war,Russia is at war now and their oil has been selling to the Chinese at cut rate prices,they used to supply mostly the west coast of the United States.

After we lost our position in the world market,Russia took up the slack then went after Saudi because Russia was flooding the market to counter Saudi,then war starts,sanctions get put on Russia,the only way countries can buy their oil is at a cheap discounted rate and the only one is China.

War was the best thing that happened to OPEC,just as cutting production in this country,because it took out the two biggest players in one move,Russia and the United States.

We lowered production
Russia cannot sell their oil unless it is bottom rate prices to the Chinese.
We are now controlled by OPEC and they are dictating the price to us.

That is how your wonderful global economy works.

In 2020 78% of our oil for domestic use came from 5 states within the United States.

OPEC is not capitalism it is a cartel that dictates prices to the world,it was never intended to be capitalized,it is a group of oil producing countries that control the price of oil in their best interests,that includes IRAN in that group who is now telling us how much we are going to pay for oil from one day to the next,something our own president cannot do.

5% of our oil comes from Saudi,but we never use Saudi gas in our cars,Saudi only supplies the shipping industry with raw fuel,unprocessed.

The reason Saudi holds sway is because it has power over the Middle Eastern members of OPEC,because they have the backing of the United States,that is what dictates to OPEC and because of the war and our current policies,we just put Saudi back in total control of OPEC,like I already said,by simply cutting production in this country and Russia at war.

[Canadian Visitor]

The guy I use to turn on my sprinkling system came out last Monday. He drives a Dodge diesel pickup truck. He has the bed of the truck partitioned off with drawers where he keeps tools and fittings and those type of items. He replaced a sprinkler head and capped something off, he had everything he needed in his truck. Do you expect him to drive over in a Chevrolet Volt or a used Dodge Neon or something? Lots of people have a need for truck type vehicles to do their job.

Ford has just released an all-electric version of the F-150.

Silverado will have an all-electric version next year.

[Zacha341]

Out of touch indeed. It'll be interesting as the kinks are worked out of 'truck' EV options. Especially regarding weight and our extreme cold weather. Re. transportation what remains is mid, lower and fixed income people needing to retain their ICE vehicles options.

Public transpo is not an option for all. Those not in the high income brackets still need door to door service. They cannot lug groceries, bike-peddle for errands, or walk blocks to transpo stops or stand alone for long hours at a stop. Especially high crime areas - I wouldn't advise one put themselves out there.

I provide rides as I can for a few friends/ fam where public transpo wouldn't help for necessary errands. I don't want them on public transportation for safety/ health reasons. I hope to do this as long as I can.

...Do you expect him to drive over in a Chevrolet Volt or a used Dodge Neon or something? Lots of people have a need for truck type vehicles to do their job.

This area has crappy mass transit... People have to go to work, people have to go places. Not everyone can afford to replace their vehicle with an electric car, it isn't feasible for most people. The current administration's stance on this issue is out of touch with reality for almost everyone.

[Zacha341]

Hmm, I wonder if Toyota will shift their Tundra truck fleet in this direction.

Not feeling GM truck of SUV offerings right now at the ICE level...

Ford has just released an all-electric version of the F-150.

Silverado will have an all-electric version next year.

[Zacha341]

To save gas costs I use the app Getupside but lately it's been pennies on the dollar cash back - and always seems to suggest the highest gas station to purchase from. Anyone else use it?

[Rocket]

I do Costco. Last week they were almost a dollar cheaper for prem.

I also use a CC that gives 3% cash back on gas, which is another 15 cents a gallon. So instead of $6.61 a gallon like my friend in Dearborn paid at a Citgo Friday, I ended up paying $5.52. [$5.69 - 17 cents]

I haven't found anything that touches Costco yet.

Of course it helps if there's one near you. I'm up Mad Heights every week, so that helps. So does a big gas tank.

[Honky Tonk]

I do Costco. Last week they were almost a dollar cheaper for prem.

I also use a CC that gives 3% cash back on gas, which is another 15 cents a gallon. So instead of $6.61 a gallon like my friend in Dearborn paid at a Citgo Friday, I ended up paying $5.52. [$5.69 - 17 cents]

I haven't found anything that touches Costco yet.

Of course it helps if there's one near you. I'm up Mad Heights every week, so that helps. So does a big gas tank.

Last Thursday, in the 'hood, several stations were at $5.05 for regular. I could take my pick. That was cash & carry.

[Canadian Visitor]

The cheapest gas in Windsor, Ontario is at Costco......for $2.05 CAD per L [[not gallon)

When you translate that its $7.88 per gallon CAD

or $6.15 USD per gallon.

[ABetterDetroit]

The cheapest gas in Windsor, Ontario is at Costco......for $2.05 CAD per L [[not gallon)

When you translate that its $7.88 per gallon CAD

or $6.15 USD per gallon.

And yet another country that produces significantly more oil than they consume daily. Even though the economic principles of commodities, supply and demand is grade school stuff I guess it needs to be pointed out to anyone who is reading long diatribes on economics according to a poster who can not even grasp those simple concepts. Thanks for the update from Windsor CV.

[Richard]

And yet another country that produces significantly more oil than they consume daily. Even though the economic principles of commodities, supply and demand is grade school stuff I guess it needs to be pointed out to anyone who is reading long diatribes on economics according to a poster who can not even grasp those simple concepts. Thanks for the update from Windsor CV.

You can explain it to a 3 year old and they still will not get it,production has zero to do with pricing.

Canada does not set prices,I will write this out really slow.

OPEC sets the price plain and simple.

Once again and writing really slow - a glut in the global market lowers prices.

Canada ramped up production for export which would have dropped the prices,but the United States cut their nuts off when we decided to release 180 million barrels out of our strategic reserve which is in direct competition with Canadas exports of sour crude.

The United States is the only country in the world that is deliberately keeping oil prices high by manipulating the market in order to favor OPEC.

Canada has plenty of oil for export,they could have flooded the market and drove prices down - we stopped them and took them out of the picture.

Russia was in a oil war with Saudi that was driving prices down - war took them out of the picture with our help.

The United States can pump plenty of oil for export and drive the prices down - we stopped it.

Who is left in control - OPEC

It has zero to do with supply and demand,war,or democracy or capitalism,it has everything to do with power and who is in control of it.

By keeping OPEC and by proxy Saudi in control of oil prices,the United States is dictating world prices and artificially inflating those prices for our agenda.

Any private company would be put in front of criminal hearings for doing the exact same thing.

That is why you pretend you do not want to understand it,because you do not want to admit that you are playing your part in screwing millions of people across the globe in order to have your little agenda.

We had no right to dictate to Canada or do something nasty to them to undercut their economy,just as we had no right to goad Russia into a war where a country is being destroyed with millions being displaced and thousands of innocent civilians are being murdered so we could control the market,for a fricking agenda.

There was a million other ways to go about this without pure evil taking precedence and destroying peoples lives in the process.

We have systematically removed all the competitors from the equation that would drive prices down and handed it back to OPEC control and by default Saudi.

Wonder why.

[softailrider]

I do Costco. Last week they were almost a dollar cheaper for prem.

I also use a CC that gives 3% cash back on gas, which is another 15 cents a gallon. So instead of $6.61 a gallon like my friend in Dearborn paid at a Citgo Friday, I ended up paying $5.52. [$5.69 - 17 cents]

I haven't found anything that touches Costco yet.

Of course it helps if there's one near you. I'm up Mad Heights every week, so that helps. So does a big gas tank.

Got to have patience to wait in that line.

[Rocket]

Got to have patience to wait in that line.

Truth.

Though I find there's hardly any line in the mornings. So I just leave for work 10 min early on the days I need gas. Otherwise,.. fugedaboutit.

Don't tell anyone.

[Jimaz]