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    Quote Originally Posted by 401don View Post
    I'm wondering how many hotels with fold. Cities rely on business, tourists and conventions. None of the 3 are coming back anytime soon.
    I’ve been wondering the same thing. Maybe mothball some of these places until the economy comes around. Not sure what other choice there may be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 401don View Post
    I'm wondering how many hotels with fold. Cities rely on business, tourists and conventions. None of the 3 are coming back anytime soon.
    I think business travel will rebound as soon as there is some sort of solution, but the convention biz is going to be tough. The more traditional cities for conventions [[Las Vegas, Miami, NYC, Chicago, etc.) will be fighting for every dollar, and they already have the infrastructure that large conventions prefer. I'm not sure how Detroit makes the case there, but the good news is that Detroit's hotels are probably sustained more on business travel than conventions.

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    Why would they mothball when most of these hotels wont be open until 2022 at the earliest? Well after corona is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metro25 View Post
    Why would they mothball when most of these hotels wont be open until 2022 at the earliest? Well after corona is over.
    I'm talking about existing hotels in Detroit, and elsewhere for that matter.
    I didn't suggest mothballing, however having some hotels mothballed might be preferable to having all hotels trying to compete with very low occupancy.
    Last edited by 401don; May-09-20 at 10:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 401don View Post
    I'm talking about existing hotels in Detroit, and elsewhere for that matter.
    I didn't suggest mothballing, however having some hotels mothballed might be preferable to having all hotels trying to compete with very low occupancy.


    Don't worry, taxpayers will bail them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metro25 View Post
    Why would they mothball when most of these hotels wont be open until 2022 at the earliest? Well after corona is over.
    Maybe mothball is the wrong choice of words, but 2022 is 18 months away, if a hotel is going to be empty for that long, some type of action has to be taken. Not exactly sure what, but you got to some things.

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    Thank you posting!

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    On the topic of Detroit hotels and COVID, it is important to note how low the supply of Detroit hotel rooms actually is/was compared to peer cities. Point being, it will actually be a benefit to Detroit hotels that supply is low, because demand will obviously be low as well in the near term.

    Other cities, with an over abundance of rooms, will probably suffer far worse due to the drop in tourism.
    Last edited by Atticus; May-24-20 at 07:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atticus View Post
    On the topic of Detroit hotels and COVID, it is important to note how low the supply of Detroit hotel rooms actually is/was compared to peer cities. Point being, it will actually be a benefit to Detroit hotels that supply is low, because demand will obviously be low as well in the near term.

    Other cities, with an over abundance of rooms, will probably suffer far worse due to the drop in tourism.
    Yeah, I remember a conversation on this forum a couple of years ago pointing out how some smaller metros, such as Charlotte, had many more hotel rooms than Detroit. That helped Charlotte to secure the DNC in 2012 and the RNC in 2020, but it will be an albatross for them if travel doesn't pick up fast.

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    So, is Michigan Avenue the next Detroit roadway for a Q-Line light-rail tram system, or do the current [[new) plans for Michigan Ave preclude that possibility for sure?

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    He posted the same thing in the Hudson thread, yet there are workers on site today. I'll wait for a more reliable source.

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    Apparently construction is beginning today.

    Construction has started on a 227-room hotel in Detroit's Corktown neighborhood west of downtown.
    The $45 million to $50 million Godfrey Hotel is expected to be complete in 2023 after being developed by a joint venture between Farmington Hills-based Hunter Pasteur Homes and Chicago-based Oxford Capital Group LLC.
    A building on the site, most recently City Cab, that has been vacant for a couple of decades will be torn down to make way for the new project.

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    This is totally going to change the feel, connectivity and walkability of Michigan Avenue. This is what we've been waiting for.

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    Unfortunately it looks like that giant billboard between the church and this building will stay put..

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    In addition there's also been an update on the AC hotel on Woodward. Expect construction to start on that this fall.

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    Construction didn’t begin yesterday. That vacant building is still on the site. Obviously that needs to be removed before they can break ground. I went by the site yesterday and there was no activity at all.

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    The AC Hotel development has yet started. Maybe it is for Fall 2022?

    Looks like the Michigan and Church Development is called the Perennial. Also looks like the area is now fenced off and they are targeting 2023 completion. Here is a video of it from Frankai and other Corktown goodies including Godfrey Hotel:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWnhMekZW3A

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    There's a billboard right next to the Godfrey that says "Union electricians power Detroit. Why not the Godfrey?"

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    There are two more projects in front of the HDC's next meeting by this developer. One is the Self-Storage building/ Red Arrow bottling plant that was originally planned to be demolished. It's nice to see it being turned into housing. The other is on Trumbull and Leverette. Both of these projects are being described as "Phase II" of the Oxford Perennial/Hunter Pasteur project.

    "The Formosa"

    "Red Arrow Lofts"

    I've hit my image quota so I will try to upload screenshots if I can get that increased by the admin

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonWylie View Post
    There are two more projects in front of the HDC's next meeting by this developer. One is the Self-Storage building/ Red Arrow bottling plant that was originally planned to be demolished. It's nice to see it being turned into housing. The other is on Trumbull and Leverette. Both of these projects are being described as "Phase II" of the Oxford Perennial/Hunter Pasteur project.

    "The Formosa"

    "Red Arrow Lofts"

    I've hit my image quota so I will try to upload screenshots if I can get that increased by the admin
    Is 1567 Church the building that the community members saved on the neighborhood impact calls that took place for the Godfrey project? If so, glad to see there's a plan to renovate it, will be a win to see it first saved, then rehabbed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuuma View Post
    Is 1567 Church the building that the community members saved on the neighborhood impact calls that took place for the Godfrey project? If so, glad to see there's a plan to renovate it, will be a win to see it first saved, then rehabbed.
    I believe so, but I'm not 100% sure. I assume the parking garage is still being built on the empty lot next to it as well.

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    I love the big flashy projects downtown but these are the types of things that the city absolutely needs more of. Building density in the surrounding neighborhoods will only push the need for highrises downtown. I hope to see a lot more of this in the lots that are adjacent to I-75 in Corktown.

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