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  1. #101

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    I had a feeling from the beginning that this was an end around play orchestrated by the Dems to get Biden off the ticket.

  2. #102

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    That leaves options

    They cannot force Biden out,he can leave and do one of two things,drop his delegate votes,he cannot transfer them but whoever he recommends the delegates will cast the vote for,they can do this up until the eve of the election.

    Most of the candidates have suspended their campaigns and not actually dropped out,anyone of those can then step forward and receive Biden’s majority vote.

    If he just drops Sanders has the majority of the votes and if nobody opposed him,he would be the nominee.

    Or the delegates can take an unprecedented move and vote for whoever they want in,also up until the eve of the election or before the first vote is cast.

    What is happening in the background.

    The next stimulus package the progressives are pushing for UBI,universal basic income,of $1000 per month in addition to the $600 a week in unemployment,for the next year.

    No service sector employee will return to work or any other employee that will collect $3400 a month sitting at home verse less working.

    The last stimulus they already pushed the climate change agenda on the airlines as a tool for them to take the bail out.

    To me anyways if the goal is to get Biden out, then the objective would be to replace him with a progressive.

    As they seem to be setting the stage for.

    The problem with that theory is the stimulus UBI thing would literally destroy the country’s 32 million small businesses,which would then put the federal government in control of big businesses and the population in one fatal swoop.

    I do see the “liberal” news going after Biden with a vengeance.

    I think they are trying to use the current circumstances of the virus in order to do a power play of their form of government intervention.

    That is why they do not want people to go back to work,keep them locked down a few more months and a lot of the smaller businesses will be wiped out,people will be desperate and hungry and a perfect time for somebody to step in and say we are the government and we are here to help.

    People on lockdown are also easier to control.

    Trump will say,the economy.

    They took that option away by being able to say,do not worry about a failed economy will will take carer of you,here’s $3400 a month to stay home as proof.

    How many are going to be looking at the $3400 as a lifesaver without looking at what happens a year from now when it runs out and the government has no more and there are no more jobs.

    They will then take over the big businesses as state run,put people back to work there and once again save the day.And all people had to do was give up their freedom.

    On second thought we would be mired in a civil war if that played out so it would be anybody’s guess as to what would happen next.

    Whatever they are scheming up,I hope they are very careful about how they go about it,people are already riled up
    and it might just end up backfiring on them.
    Last edited by Richard; May-04-20 at 02:16 AM.

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    She is the most conservative out of the whole bunch,so probably the better choice.

    The article reads that she is a bad choice because she does not draw Bernie supporters,to me that is a good choice.

  5. #105

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    "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..."


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-pro...123910329.html

  6. #106

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    Yep I agree. The extreme candidates lead us to Biden [[as most American's even those not liking the far right of Trump were not going that far left)...

    So they are trying to shore that up with a somewhat moderate [[Klobuchar).

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    She is the most conservative out of the whole bunch, so probably the better choice.

    The article reads that she is a bad choice because she does not draw Bernie supporters, to me that is a good choice.

  7. #107

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    So tiresome. They who go down this standard 'pandering' playbook to garner black votes don't get that more black people are going their own way re. politics. No longer are we calmed and set with the standard liberal promises.

    We are vying to be at various tables of interests and opportunity [[dem, repub, indy, etc) going forward. Many have found that being UNDER any table [[the democratic party included) is not all it's been touted to be!

    Increasingly we're holding the democrat status quo to a higher standard beyond simply being told to ONLY look 'over there' at the evil repubs.

    More black people are critically evaluating ALL political sides! Particularly as to how policy of said politics impact our communities; especially where staid dem strong-holds have shown little progress for years.

    The black, African-American democratic vote is no longer an absolute given!

    Quote Originally Posted by Honky Tonk View Post
    "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..."


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-pro...123910329.html
    Last edited by Zacha341; May-22-20 at 01:56 PM.

  8. #108

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    Yep I agree. The extreme candidates lead us to Biden [[as most American's even those not liking the far right of Trump were not going that far left)
    Yet support for those "far left" ideas is very strong - even among non-Democrats:
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    So they are trying to shore that up with a somewhat moderate [[Klobuchar).
    Calling Klobuchar "moderate" is like calling the desert a beach. She is a full-on DINO of the Corporatist extremous species.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rb336 View Post
    Yet support for those "far left" ideas is very strong - even among non-Democrats...
    Here's a good one [[click to enlarge):



  10. #110

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    So tiresome. They who go down this standard 'pandering' playbook to garner black votes don't get that more black people are going their own way re. politics. No longer are we calmed and set with the standard liberal promises.

    We are vying to be at various tables of interests and opportunity [[dem, repub, indy, etc) going forward. Many have found that being UNDER any table [[the democratic party included) is not all it's been touted to be!

    Increasingly we're holding the democrat status quo to a higher standard beyond simply being told to ONLY look 'over there' at the evil repubs.

    More black people are critically evaluating ALL political sides now! Particularly as to how policy of said politics impact our communities, especially where staid dem strong-holds have shown little true progress for years.

    The black, African-American democratic vote is no longer an absolute given!

    I have no problem with "pandering to black votes". It's an election and all 3 sides want to win, I get that. But out of all the candidates there were, this is it? What a screw up. He suffers from the same symptoms as Trump, "hoof in mouth disease".

  11. #111

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    Hah! Well we'll just have sort the trash from truth. Action from rhetoric... post the pandering!

    Just don't go into the churches and do the so-called 'black pulpit talk' impersonation:

    I Don't Feel Noways Tired...

    Leave that alone.
    Just speak and inform - the other stuff comes off as 'extra' and over-doing it.
    Last edited by Zacha341; May-22-20 at 01:43 PM.

  12. #112

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    I was trying to be kind considering the other 'eh 'offerings'....

    Quote Originally Posted by rb336 View Post
    ...Calling Klobuchar "moderate" is like calling the desert a beach. She is a full-on DINO of the Corporatist extremous species.
    Last edited by Zacha341; May-23-20 at 08:22 AM.

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    ^ On that poll;

    You gotta wonder how the results would be if the Commie Institute conducted the poll honestly?

    I.E. Instead of "Green New Deal to create millions of new energy jobs"

    What would the response be if they phrased the question honestly, and asked how people felt about "A Green New Deal to eliminate tens of millions of jobs, thrust us into desperate poverty ?

    I've yet to meet anyone who thinks it is a good idea, and I'm surrounded by radical leftists all day.

  14. #114

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdd View Post
    ^ On that poll;

    You gotta wonder how the results would be if the Commie Institute conducted the poll honestly?

    I.E. Instead of "Green New Deal to create millions of new energy jobs"

    What would the response be if they phrased the question honestly, and asked how people felt about "A Green New Deal to eliminate tens of millions of jobs, thrust us into desperate poverty ?

    I've yet to meet anyone who thinks it is a good idea, and I'm surrounded by radical leftists all day.
    If your last paragraph is true, then next election AOC is toast.

  15. #115

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdd View Post
    ^ On that poll;

    You gotta wonder how the results would be if the Commie Institute conducted the poll honestly?

    I.E. Instead of "Green New Deal to create millions of new energy jobs"

    What would the response be if they phrased the question honestly, and asked how people felt about "A Green New Deal to eliminate tens of millions of jobs, thrust us into desperate poverty ?

    I've yet to meet anyone who thinks it is a good idea, and I'm surrounded by radical leftists all day.
    Considering how clearly your takes on virtually everything have been diametrically opposed to anything resembling fact, your post just serves to validate that poll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by softailrider View Post
    If your last paragraph is true, then next election AOC is toast.
    Hopefully,.. but the voters in her NY district are a different breed. A different species almost,.. so who knows.

    What I do hear regularly in the D is that our governor is done. I can't repeat here the things I hear said about her. But we have to endure this for 2 more years at least.

    We knew she had no plan to fix the roads,.. and in fact it wouldn't even have been possible in 8 years,.. even if someone had given her a trillion dollars. That she didn't even make a real effort will resonate with voters in 2 years.
    Last edited by Bigdd; May-23-20 at 09:06 AM.

  17. #117

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    Yep. Detroiter's [[and Flint and Benton Harbor) aren't too happy about her either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdd View Post
    Hopefully,.. but the voters in her NY district are a different breed. A different species almost,.. so who knows.

    What I do hear regularly in the D is that our governor is done. I can't repeat her the things I hear said about her. But we have to endure this for 2 more years at least.

    We knew she had no plan to fix the roads,.. and in fact it wouldn't even have been possible in 8 years,.. even if someone had given her a trillion dollars. That she didn't even make a real effort will resonate with voters in 2 years.
    AOC only won by a few votes,the biggest problem there was the amount that showed up at the polls was minimal.

    As far as the roads,the governor has somebody in the White House that was all about rebuilding the infrastructure which included roads and water systems,she could have done more to help flint in one swoop.

    But instead of dealing with the infrastructure many decided it was better to impeach the one that could have been used to obtain the goals.

    Infrastructure does not care if you are Republicans or Democrat,the same amount of time she spent screwing around with a gas tax that would have effected generations,she could have supported an infrastructure bill that would have placed the state’s obligations at 20% verses 100%.

    To me she is more beholden to the party then the citizens she was elected to represent.

    The president had to dip into a slush fund in order to create the skilled training programs,the ones that needed the programs the most,the inner cities,did not accept them because of politics.
    Last edited by Richard; May-23-20 at 08:22 AM.

  19. #119

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    Note to BIDEN: Even as odious as Trump is to many please don't dictate to black people who we are relative to voting. Period.

    Just leave that alone.

    Additionally, the thought of him [[Biden) fumbling thru an apologize, attempting to redact his words - the damage-control yackin'.......

    Complaints toward Biden for his 'ain't black' comment about African-Americans voting option...

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...k-comment.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xqodjauwT0

    Too bad Biden was taken aback that the black vote he so needs is requesting ACCOUNTABILITY. Now.

    Not commentary on who we are as voters!
    Last edited by Zacha341; May-26-20 at 08:39 AM.

  20. #120

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    The pick for Biden's VP is still up in the air... with Klobuchar sliding down fast:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/01/how-...yds-death.html

    https://www.npr.org/2020/06/03/86845...-floyd-s-death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    The pick for Biden's VP is still up in the air... with Klobuchar sliding down fast:
    Good. She is the worst of the corporatist dem camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rb336 View Post
    Good. She is the worst of the corporatist dem camp.
    She is probably the most conservative,if one could say that.

    Not that Biden has a chance of winning but I am thinking the last person he picks will be somebody from the liberal left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    She is probably the most conservative,if one could say that.

    Not that Biden has a chance of winning but I am thinking the last person he picks will be somebody from the liberal left.

    I don't think Uncle Joe will pick anybody. I think the party is feeling out who has the best chance for success to choose to run with him. C-19 and the recent protests altered the game. Uncle Joe will make a good yes man for their agenda.
    Last edited by Honky Tonk; June-08-20 at 08:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdd View Post
    Hopefully,.. but the voters in her NY district are a different breed. A different species almost,.. so who knows.
    Saying the voters in a majority Hispanic district are a "different breed" and almost a different species? Just being openly racist now I see. Glad you dropped any pretense of being anything other than the white supremacist that you are.
    Last edited by aj3647; June-08-20 at 08:17 PM.

  25. #125

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    ^ so is calling them socialist commies racist also?

    I agree New York Hispanics are of a different breed,and you can find thousands of normal Hispanics that will agree.

    Take the New York attitude,add a hot tempered Latin in there and it becomes a toxic mixture.

    A hot mix in other circumstances though.

    But by the way everything is going most altra liberal cities are so far out there if the world was flat they would fall off.

    Thats not racist its a proven fact.

    There is a reason 1 million has fled the ultra liberal cities.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkel.../#62a2d49b41ac

    Now that everybody is Woke everything anybody does or says will now become racist.

    AJ you do not agree with me so I think you are racist against Jews,because I have .000000000001% Jewish in me.
    Last edited by Richard; June-08-20 at 10:19 PM.

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