Coronavirus: Threat Beyond Politics [For Political Discussions of CoV]

[bust]

^ meh I am sticking with hookers n blow we are all going to be dead in 9.5 years from climate change anyways.

How exactly does one hire a hooker while practicing social distancing? Asking for a friend.

Remember when AIDS first came on the scene,the controversy that surrounded that and all the wild speculation on how one can contract that,it was close to a year before the scientists could clear that one up.

They are only people like you and I,whenever something new comes up it takes time to gather all of the actual facts.

You don't represent the majority of Americans.
If that's wrong let Trump be re-elected.
I, for one, am looking forward to next year.

[Richard]

^ as am I,Trump needs to complete his mission of making America great again.

maybe in 2024 the dems can come up with a suitable alternative.

[aj3647]

Trump said this today:

"New Zealand, by the way, had a big outbreak," he said at a White House news conference on Wednesday. "And other countries that were held up to try and make us look not as good as we should look -- because we've done an incredible job -- but they're having a lot of outbreaks..."

That "big new outbreak" in New Zealand? 5 new cases yesterday. 6 the day before that. 12 the day before that. And zero deaths since May. By comparison, the United States recorded ~45,000 new cases each of the past three days.

Trump literally said "we're doing an incredible job" of managing COVID and then he slammed New Zealand for having <25 new cases in three days when we recorded over 130,000 new cases in the same time frame.

[Dan Wesson]

CMU has picked up 5 more cases according to Mt Pleasant paper. Paper notes that unlike before the college is not notifying the publicthis time.

Correction, Health department now has responded to the paper there have been 10 cases in ten days.

[Maof]

This has got to be heard to believe: Sarah Cooper
https://twitter.com/sarahcpr/status/...702429189?s=20

hahahahaha! Especially when she gestures towards her butt

[jcole]

Edit: I was fooled, it is lip synch and I'm far less impressed now.
But can you believe that she is actually impersonating him? She's not lip synching, she's speaking!!!

hahahahaha! Especially when she gestures towards her butt

[Jimaz]

But can you believe that she is actually impersonating him? She's not lip synching, she's speaking!!!

I've seen her before and I think she actually is lip synching. She sure had me fooled though. It's that well done.

[jcole]

I looked it up; they keep saying she's impersonating him by lip synching. Two totally different things IMHO. I'm not nearly as impressed now.

I've seen her before and I think she actually is lip synching. She sure had me fooled though. It's that well done.

[Jimaz]

It's still impressive. I think to actually change her voice that much she'd have to distort her vocal chords somehow. That strange Tuvan throat singing comes to mind.

Speaking of which, Dr. Fauci had some minor surgery on his vocal chords to remove a polyp. I thought he sounded hoarse!

[Maof]

I looked it up; they keep saying she's impersonating him by lip synching. Two totally different things IMHO. I'm not nearly as impressed now.

Still funny though.

[Dan Wesson]

https://www.bridgemi.com/talent-educ...onavirus-cases

[Richard]

The one consistency across the world with the rona virus?

Come off of lock down and the spread resumes,you cannot stop it.

But you can deal with it by not hiding from it.

[oladub]

July unemployment rates have just come out. These are color coded as blue, red, and purple states. The national unemployment rate in July was 10.2%.

The highest percentage state unemployment rates are
MA 16.1
NY 15.9
NV 14
NJ 13.8
PA 13.7
CA 13.3
HI 13.1
NM 12.7
AK 11.6
IL 11.3
FL 11.3
RI 11.2
MS 10.8
OR 10.4
DE 10.4
WA 10.3
CT 10.3
States with lowest percentage unemployment rates
IN 7.8
GA 7.6
CO 7.4
KS 7.2
AR 7.1
WY 7.1
OK 7.1
WI 7
MO 6.9
ND 6.6
IA 6.6
MT 6.4
SD 6.3
KY 5.7
ID 5
NE 4.8
UT 4.5

[Honky Tonk]

July unemployment rates have just come out. These are color coded as blue, red, and purple states. The national unemployment rate in July was 10.2%.

The highest percentage state unemployment rates are
MA 16.1
NY 15.9
NV 14
NJ 13.8
PA 13.7
CA 13.3
HI 13.1
NM 12.7
AK 11.6
IL 11.3
FL 11.3
RI 11.2
MS 10.8
OR 10.4
DE 10.4
WA 10.3
CT 10.3
States with lowest percentage unemployment rates
GA 7.6
IN 7.8
CO 7.4
KS 7.2
AR 7.1
WY 7.1
OK 7.1
WI 7
MO 6.9
ND 6.6
IA 6.6
MT 6.4
SD 6.3
KY 5.7
ID 5
NE 4.8
UT 4.5

Worry not, oladub, Biden's pledged to spend $700 billion to "bring America's jobs back", he'll straighten it all out.

[Richard]

The irony is that the jobs are still there,they just made it easy to stay home and make more then working,it’s not really true unemployment numbers.

Thats almost as bad as Biden’s proposed national mask mandate,50 years in politics and was a VP and he still does not know the limitations that the federal government can place on the individual state’s.

Looks good on paper though.

A federal mask mandate would bring in the feds for enforcement,they would not even let them bring in the feds to stop cities from burning but they would allow them for mask patrol?

They destroyed the federal courthouses,so how are they going to prosecute people for violating a federal order?

[Honky Tonk]

The irony is that the jobs are still there,they just made it easy to stay home and make more then working,it’s not really true unemployment numbers.

They're in training for when it changes from money to blocks of yellow cheese.

[Richard]

Its interesting the differences with Mr and Mrs Roosevelt

Mrs Roosevelt- give people a hand up

Mr Roosevelt - Get a job

If they were still alive today Mr Roosevelt would be telling his wife - see I told you what would happen.

Florida is reopening bars but the catch is you have to apply to sell food also,that would be $600 for the application plus pass state health department inspection.

The state always finds a way to accommodate,as long as they can figure out how to attach a fee to it.

[Bong-Man]

Considering the title of this thread, it would probably be more accurate and less political to judge the unemployment rates by population density instead of political affiliation. Notice how the States towards the bottom of each list seem to pretty much jive without bringing politics into the discussion ? That could be because the virus could care less about anyone's political affiliation, or their cheese consumption. Just a thought.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...lation_density

The irony is that the jobs are still there,they just made it easy to stay home and make more then working,it’s not really true unemployment numbers.

Weekly initial unemployment claims rose by 135,000 last week. Considering most of those individuals were already working, I seriously doubt the motivation for those claims was the promise of 'extra money' from the government. I'm going to go out on a limb here without any link-a-dinks and claim that North Dakota, South Dakota, and Wyoming had a less proportionate share of those unemployment claims. See how that works ?

[Zacha341]

Hah! If Roosevelt where alive now he'd be considered an alt-right. What with all his talk of American greatness and the like!

Mr Roosevelt - Get a job

[jcole]

I don't think anyone would mistake FDR for alt-right unless there's a Socialist arm of the Republican platform:
Major federal programs and agencies included the Civilian Conservation Corps [[CCC), the Civil Works Administration [[CWA), the Farm Security Administration [[FSA), the National Industrial Recovery Act of 1933 [[NIRA) and the Social Security Administration [[SSA).

Hah! If Roosevelt where alive now he'd be considered an alt-right. What with all his talk of American greatness and the like!

[Richard]

Hah! If Roosevelt where alive now he'd be considered an alt-right. What with all his talk of American greatness and the like!

he was pretty much conservative at the very least,he put his wife in charge of the social programs,he drew the line when it came to direct relief to the citizens during the depression.

The work programs were based on if you wanted to eat then go to work,the rest ended up being good intentions gone bad.

Even when Mrs Roosevelt set up the welfare system it was about a temporary relief so recent immigrants could get on their feet,after she drove through the immigrant tar paper shacks in New York,she implemented a housing program and you had a secure roof over your head and you had 90 days to get a job and a regular apartment before the program ended.

[Richard]

Considering the title of this thread, it would probably be more accurate and less political to judge the unemployment rates by population density instead of political affiliation. Notice how the States towards the bottom of each list seem to pretty much jive without bringing politics into the discussion ? That could be because the virus could care less about anyone's political affiliation, or their cheese consumption. Just a thought.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...lation_density



Weekly initial unemployment claims rose by 135,000 last week. Considering most of those individuals were already working, I seriously doubt the motivation for those claims was the promise of 'extra money' from the government. I'm going to go out on a limb here without any link-a-dinks and claim that North Dakota, South Dakota, and Wyoming had a less proportionate share of those unemployment claims. See how that works ?

I base it on being in the street and dealing with businesses on a daily basis,where I am at if you cannot find a job then you are not looking because employers are having a hard time filling positions.

On the white collar side of things,the large office parks etc. are still closed so all of those workers will file for unemployment.

Here anyways the jobs did not disappear as in a bad economy,they are still there but it is hard to go to work if your building is locked down.

The unemployment claims are not related to the economy,they are directly related to the lock down,there is a difference.

There is a big difference then in 2008 when the crash happened and jobs evaporated,the positions are still there,the demand is still there, it is just that people are locked out of it.

Yes people are staying at home if they can recieve more per week then actually going to work,yes there are consequences if caught but what employer is going to turn them in in this climate.

first thing they would do is go on social media and call the business out and it would be boycotted or worse,and it has been happening.

[Zacha341]

I was being deliberately facetious, a bit. The patriotic tone is what I meant, even James Carter and others showed it too back then. That type of thing is now conflated as being xenophobic, racist nationalist, exceptionalist and other 'ists' and a bunch more.

Kennedy: "Ask not what your country can do for you..." ... that be a blasphemy, ala idealistic white-bread rhetoric as judged by some now.

Not that I'm naive to sugar-coat the past. Nope.

I'm black and know full well what my community has gone thru for basic civil rights and beyond. But I ain't overly impressed with today's so progressive 'rhetoric' statements, and handling per se either.

I've also studied other systems of governments/ countries a bit to know some of what we're running towards might need to be studied a bit further before we dive in. Ala that pesky thing called 'history'...

And here we go... we're still told by the dems to 'get in line' with what is going forth without question in apposition to, well you know the ever eve-ill repubs. As cited as our one and ONLY problem on earth [[not true).

Nope, it's not that simple [[the get in line and vote-for-us narrative).

We have demands and questions to the next punch-the-clock four to eight year shift-change occurring in November.

I don't think anyone would mistake FDR for alt-right unless there's a Socialist arm of the Republican platform...

[jcole]

In every election I've lived through, and there have been A LOT, each side pushes their so-called agenda to the max, all the while knowing that once they get into office, most things they are pushing for and saying they WILL do will fall by the wayside among many compromises. If candidates stood up and said, "well, I'd like to do this and this, but I know damned well I won't be able to" who in the hell would vote for them? It's always been "promise the world and settle for half"

[Richard]

Agreed that is politics in a nutshell,always has been.

Pushing party politics aside it is easy for the average citizen to sit down and make a checklist of what was promised and what was delivered because at the end of the day that is what matters.

I regards to the rona virus,it is no different,those who oppose the current leadership will find fault and look for blame.

Its not just this country,every country in the world is doing the same thing,some like the way it was handled and others do not.

Lets face it,this has been a political football from the start on both sides and will continue to be so,I think it is wrong to push the false hope of a vaccine.

There are deadly diseases that have been around for decades and nobody has found a cure for those,there is a lot of financial benefit not to find a cure in many.

They have not found a vaccine for the 18 other strains of this thing,now we are supposed to believe they will find one now for this one?