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    Quote Originally Posted by 313WX View Post
    The reality is, having a stagnant regional population / economy and falling from the 5th largest metro to 14th largest metro in less than a 1/2 century will tend to diminish a city's relevance on a national / international level.
    Yeah yeah we get it... we heard you the first time you mentioned this... and the time after that... and all the times after that...

    Funny thing is that many cities that jumped ahead of Detroit include your new Atlanta, which has a CSA [[includes 10 MSA) of 6.5 million in an area that includes 39 counties, about 10,500 sq. miles!! That's twice the land area of Detroit's CSA 9 counties [[about 5,800 sq. miles), which statistically only included 5 MSA). .. if you included the MSAs of Toledo, Jackson, Lansing and Saginaw [[which the government doesn't do)... it ads up to over 7 million. Add a Windsor MSA [[or whatever they call it) and it comes up to nearly 7.4 million people in an area that is still smaller than the 39 county Atlanta CSA, but more populous.

    Government statistics... they can be manipulated to serve just about anyone's argument!
    Last edited by Gistok; February-03-20 at 12:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gistok View Post
    Yeah yeah we get it... we heard you the first time you mentioned this... and the time after that... and all the times after that...

    Funny thing is that many cities that jumped ahead of Detroit include your new Atlanta, which has a CSA [[includes 10 MSA) of 6.5 million in an area that includes 39 counties, about 10,500 sq. miles!! That's twice the land area of Detroit's CSA 9 counties [[about 5,800 sq. miles), which statistically only included 5 MSA). .. if you included the MSAs of Toledo, Jackson, Lansing and Saginaw [[which the government doesn't do)... it ads up to over 7 million. Add a Windsor MSA [[or whatever they call it) and it comes up to nearly 7.4 million people in an area that is still smaller than the 39 county Atlanta CSA, but more populous.

    Government statistics... they can be manipulated to serve just about anyone's argument!
    What is it exactly that you're trying to convey?

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