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    Default Rochester Community Schools To Only Offer [[Obama) Broadcast To High School

    Wow!

    This is a little "out there" for a school district to not trust the words of a sitting president to be "fit for kids." This should raise some hell I would imagine.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32678372

    or

    http://www.rochester.k12.mi.us/
    Last edited by jhartmich; September-03-09 at 03:44 PM.

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    Can't say that I blame them. This President is surrounding himself with outspoken racists such as his Green Czar, that stated "White polluters" are "Contaminating black communities" . I'd be a little leery of what he had to say to my kids as well.

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    Why are parents not being allowed to preview the speech? Has anyone previewed it? I thought all curricula had to be approved beforehand?
    Last edited by Retroit; September-03-09 at 03:38 PM.

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    LOL... here we go. This should get good!

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    I think people are seriously overreacting to this speech the President want to make the first day of school. I remember when we were in school, they lined us up to watch anti drug promotions and sex education, nobody hardly was up in arms!

    How in the world, could parents think the President of our UNITED STATES [[WHO WAS A UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION) could make a statement to our children about education that would hurt them in some way? I mean, come on. I cannot believe peole are acting this way!

    The President is more educated than ALL OF THEM! This has taken a new low and I am disgusted with our country's citizens.

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    Retroit: Dear, this is a speech, not "curricula" as you called it.

    Do you think every mayor, police officer, fire fighter, celebrity, etc. that visit the schools releases a preview of what they are going to say to the students? Like Obama or not, it just seems WAY over the top and seems a way or drawing children into the grown-up world of "us" versus "them."

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    So, if one day a Republican President decided he wanted to have a daily message for schoolchildren, you [[plural) would have no problem with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retroit View Post
    So, if one day a Republican President decided he wanted to have a daily message for schoolchildren, you [[plural) would have no problem with it?
    Who the hell said it was daily? It's a back to school speech. Bush was reading a story to first graders when 9/11 happened and no one previewed that.

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    Once again, the 900 lb gorrilla is standing in the middle of the room, yet no one wants to aknowledge it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevgoblue View Post
    Once again, the 900 lb gorrilla is standing in the middle of the room, yet no one wants to aknowledge it.
    You're not implying that just because Obama is 50% African that he gets a free pass, are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcole View Post
    Who the hell said it was daily? It's a back to school speech. Bush was reading a story to first graders when 9/11 happened and no one previewed that.
    I didn't say it was daily. I was asking a question [[notice the "if" and the question mark). If it is acceptable for the President to speak on the first day of school, why not every day? What is the acceptable level of political indoctrination in schools? What will the President be talking about? Is he just going to read a story to children?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcole View Post
    Who the hell said it was daily? It's a back to school speech. Bush was reading a story to first graders when 9/11 happened and no one previewed that.
    Luckily, the first graders were there to help him with the "big" words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wash_man View Post
    Luckily, the first graders were there to help him with the "big" words.

    LOL!!!

    Bush was reading "My Pet Goat" which, as I understand, is the only book in the Bush Presidential Libraree.

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    I'm with Mama Jackson. The President of the US is sending a message for the first day of school. On what planet do citizens not listen to their leader? I said "listen", which does not necessarily mean "agree with." Give me a break. We have a serious problem, where the majority who elected the president is not being heard but the loud tantrums of the minority are heard. I guess the news has descended to sensational reporting only. Sad day for our democracy.

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    Even if you don't agree with him [[and I don't: expanding government endlessly, running up huge debt, strangling business), you would think it would be a great teaching experience.

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    The president has the "bully pulpit". It comes with the job.

    But it would be rather laughable if a president gave a daily speech to grade schoolers because they were the only ones who would listen. Is that what Bush was reduced to already by 9/11?

    But this is a one time speech. What greater civics lesson than hearing your president speak to you? Start turning those young minds onto the fact that there are multiple opinions on current topics.

    And darn, I don't even see the 900 lb gorilla. Where is it again?

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    Let us NOT bring up the racist crap again. Please.

    the issue is how people think this is a poor thing to do in the schools, and it isn't. Both Reagan and Bush spoke directly to the students, and there wasn't any announcement or denouncement of it even occuring.

    This is a partisan thing, democrats vs. republicans. Again, and again and again. I personally am sick of it. He was elected by the majority of the nation's voters, and the republicans don't like it. They will try and spoil his agenda in any way they can. The republicans know they don't have the majority in Congress, so they took their fight to the streets. Us democrats know street fighting, we should get busy.

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    I will state again. This isn't about race, it's about politics.

    How you read that into it shows something about YOUR ideology.

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    I agree with mamajackson when she states that this is political:

    "...Again, and again and again. I personally am sick of it. He was elected by the majority of the nation's voters, and the republicans don't like it. They will try and spoil his agenda in any way they can..."

    However, I believe that latent racial fear is being manipulated by the republicans, with predictable results. It has worked in the past.

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    So if George W. Bush gave a speech [[one single speech) to schoolchildren telling them to support the war in Iraq, no one would have a problem with that?

    The big problem for me is that no one knows what Obama is saying in this speech. The parents have a right to know.

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    Sheesh. I swear some of these "protests" are totally nutball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retroit View Post
    The big problem for me is that no one knows what Obama is saying in this speech. The parents have a right to know.
    I do agree with you on the fact that no one knows what he says, but let me ask you this:

    Did anyone know what Wilson was going to say after people just finished their dinners and sat down in front of the tube? World War I happened.

    Did anyone know what to expect when Roosevelt declared World War II?

    I feel like parents try to shelter their kids so much now, that they will never see the real world. What is the worst that the elected President of the United States could say? Let the man speak. If a parent has a problem with what he has to say, tell them to plug their ears or ask to leave the class. Don't ruin this for the other student who might want to listen.

    -Tahleel

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    This is just another attempt by the fascist Reich to tar the president as a "socialist" or "communist", nothing more.

    By the end of his presidency, we'll have an entire dictionary full of new adjectives to describe the toothless, diseased Rethuglicans who, while out of power sought to bring down his presidency by reacting to every public appearance, every news conference, even Glenda Speck is now saying that Rockefeller Center has "communist" stone carvings which the "communist" Rockefeller family had purposely carved into the facade of the building, just to irk the fascist right.

    Here's a little fascist crazy crap from our perennial favorite, World Net Daily:

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=108771

    And this guy is supposedly a Ph.D.? He doesn't even know that "...fascism, socialism, Marxism" were't created in the 18th century! What a hose bag. A lying, freak of nature who thinks we should shun our Democratic form of government, claiming it isn't legitimate, and we should revolt? This is the implication, certainlly. Just declare the system illegitimate when you lose power, and move on. Well, I didn't hear the outrage when Tush was president and destroying the nation.

    God, these people are just hypocritical lying bastards.

    Oh, as the World Net Daily says, be sure to support your local survival seed bank, so your crisis garden stays healthy.

    Let's see:

    Teagaggers,
    Birthers
    Deathers
    Astroturfers
    Preppers
    Pied Pipers- [[this is the operational adjective for the freaks accusing Obama of being the Pied Piper, taking their children away)

    I'm also considering "Indoctrinators", but need to poll test it first. What do y'all think?
    Last edited by Lorax; September-03-09 at 08:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tahleel View Post
    I do agree with you on the fact that no one knows what he says, but let me ask you this:

    Did anyone know what Wilson was going to say after people just finished their dinners and sat down in front of the tube? World War I happened.

    -Tahleel
    Considering that TV first came online 30 years after WWI... I can't image that folks were going to say much of anything after Wilson's speech!?

    As for the comments coming from 4real.... I knew that after 8 years of Bush that SCHADENFREUDE was in store for Democrats... but based on the intensity of 4reals frothing at the mouth, I had no clue how sweet the victory!

    Thanks for the meltdown!
    Last edited by Gistok; September-04-09 at 01:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retroit View Post
    ... no one knows what Obama is saying in this speech. The parents have a right to know.
    Please, go suck and egg. This is getting ridiculus. We have speakers in our school 1000 times a year. Do you REALLY think that everyone of them should send a script home before they speak? We have a police officer coming in next week. Should he be forced to send his script home? C'mon!

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