Two RECENT US mass shootings. Where do we go from here?

**Richard** · August-05-19, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by canuck

You are smart enough to figure it out. All those cues on what is wrong with US media, the Spin, the mindlessness, the lack of actual care for the suffering, and yet, you are gung-ho on the unsurpassed democracy. Goes to show how successful the mind numbing has been on your behalf. Keep on wanting to defend your family from real and perceived dangers from all around you. Let me relax. Canada is a luxury.

We look through the eyes of today,we cannot predict the future.

You mentioned perceived dangers so I will give you an example.

The new green deal presented by the far left progressives,and we have to be careful as to not categorize all Dems as the far left.

The new green deal was shot down by both parties.

Why? Everybody wants to save the planet right?

It was not the idea of the new green deal in itself but the implementing of as discribed by the engineers of including AOCs right hand man,or person.

Thier idea for the new green deal design was to change the economy by implementing laws and by useing the economy in order to force change.They as the new government then would have removed the private investment and creativity of the economy because they know best what is good for us.

Would you agree that by controlling the economy of the United States or any other country for that matter you are in effect in control of the population?

Just as we do the signers of our constitution had thousands of years of various government run countries in order to draw expirence from.

Would you want to be in a position,as in the case of Venezuela,where you cannot get food and the government gives you the option of giving them your vote or you receive no food.

As always we live in times where governments come and go,each one has thier view on how they wish to implement change in thier country,democracies rise and fall.

Look at what is happening in Hong Kong,everyday they are fighting a loseing battle to retain thier democracy that China wants to dissolve.

Why would they want to do that if it works? You as a government cannot have total control over your people if they have independent thought,make people dependent on you for every thing and you control them.

That is what it is about and that is why the 2nd amendment is constitutional protected and we will fight to keep it that way.

Defenseless people are being slaughtered all over the world on a daily bases from collapsing governments,the first thing they do is remove the guns,for thier protection.

Freedom is not free,never has been,when you give up your freedom in order to be taken care of by the government you are no longer free.

So yea I would say I would prefer our democracy based republic over Chinas way of government any day,Americans have given there lives and are still doing so today in order to protect it.

You may choose the path in your country to allow the government to dictate how you may live every aspect of your life but I meet plenty of Canadians that feel the opposite way.

Just as it is in this country but there is still a majority in this country that understand what it is all about and they are not about to lay down and be run over.

On any given day there are 53 million refugees in transit fleeing oppression,that is almost twice the population of Canada,it is not democracy that fuels that,it is human nature to want to be free.

Gauenteed not a single one of those fleeing thought they ever would be.

The only way people like Bernie and AOC can implement thier plans is by having total control,it will not happen and that is why they are kept on a leash,the only way to have total control is by doing what every other country does,elimination of the opposition,one way or another.

You already see how they are,if you do not agree with them you are a racist,homophobic deplorable,labels to justify re-education,you are to think how they wish you to think,thanks to the 2nd amendment thier only tool is the hope of public shaming in order to draw support.

Under thier thumb you cannot have a difference of opinion or self thought without being placed into one of thier little boxes labeled unfit.

**canuck** · August-05-19, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Richard

We look through the eyes of today,we cannot predict the future.

You mentioned perceived dangers so I will give you an example.

The new green deal presented by the far left progressives,and we have to be careful as to not categorize all Dems as the far left.

The new green deal was shot down by both parties.

Why? Everybody wants to save the planet right?

It was not the idea of the new green deal in itself but the implementing of as discribed by the engineers of including AOCs right hand man,or person.

Thier idea for the new green deal design was to change the economy by implementing laws and by useing the economy in order to force change.They as the new government then would have removed the private investment and creativity of the economy because they know best what is good for us.

Would you agree that by controlling the economy of the United States or any other country for that matter you are in effect in control of the population?

Just as we do the signers of our constitution had thousands of years of various government run countries in order to draw expirence from.

Would you want to be in a position,as in the case of Venezuela,where you cannot get food and the government gives you the option of giving them your vote or you receive no food.

As always we live in times where governments come and go,each one has thier view on how they wish to implement change in thier country,democracies rise and fall.

Look at what is happening in Hong Kong,everyday they are fighting a loseing battle to retain thier democracy that China wants to dissolve.

Why would they want to do that if it works? You as a government cannot have total control over your people if they have independent thought,make people dependent on you for every thing and you control them.

That is what it is about and that is why the 2nd amendment is constitutional protected and we will fight to keep it that way.

Defenseless people are being slaughtered all over the world on a daily bases from collapsing governments,the first thing they do is remove the guns,for thier protection.

Freedom is not free,never has been,when you give up your freedom in order to be taken care of by the government you are no longer free.

So yea I would say I would prefer our democracy based republic over Chinas way of government any day,Americans have given there lives and are still doing so today in order to protect it.

You may choose the path in your country to allow the government to dictate how you may live every aspect of your life but I meet plenty of Canadians that feel the opposite way.

Just as it is in this country but there is still a majority in this country that understand what it is all about and they are not about to lay down and be run over.

On any given day there are 53 million refugees in transit fleeing oppression,that is almost twice the population of Canada,it is not democracy that fuels that,it is human nature to want to be free.

Gauenteed not a single one of those fleeing thought they ever would be.

The only way people like Bernie and AOC can implement thier plans is by having total control,it will not happen and that is why they are kept on a leash,the only way to have total control is by doing what every other country does,elimination of the opposition,one way or another.

You already see how they are,if you do not agree with them you are a racist,homophobic deplorable,labels to justify re-education,you are to think how they wish you to think,thanks to the 2nd amendment thier only tool is the hope of public shaming in order to draw support.

Under thier thumb you cannot have a difference of opinion or self thought without being placed into one of thier little boxes labeled unfit.

The short answer is in this question; how many of these displaced bombed and burned out people were dealt these blows by US interventions?

How much misery in Vietnam, how many disappeared victims via black ops, what insanity to continue this so called policing to further corporate interests.