Two RECENT US mass shootings. Where do we go from here?

[Richard]

You left out C) The gunman doesn't exist, cause we didn't let him get a gun or ammo in the 1st place.

Most effective strategy ever.

Proven to work throughout the world.

Toronto, a city of 3,000,000 has 32 homicides so far this year, that's a pace of 58 for the year.

Remind me what the homicide rate is down there?

Right, even El Paso, considered once of the safest cities in the US has a homicide rate in a normal year almost 3 per 100,000 residents.

By contrast, Toronto has a rate of 1.9 homicides per 100,000 residents.

That compares with 5.3 in the U.S. overall.

One strategy works, the other does not.

Are you going to compare apples to apples?

Homicides increased in recent years alongside a significant jump in shootings, said Lee. So far in 2018, there have been 364 shooting incidents and 497 victims, according to police data. That's more than double 166 shootings and 207 victims in 2014.

Toronto Has Highest Homicide Rate Among Major Canadian Cities For 2018


https://m.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/11/...wux67s2m7LJK7H

I already posted El Paso is a smaller community that is home to two military bases
and the base for the immigration task force.

So given that thier base is comprised of the military and law enforcement it would stand to reason that they are
somewhat safer.

The level of rape is higher then the National standard.

If they did not have the military and immigration enforcement presence
then thier levels of violence would mirror other border cities that have violent cites across the border from them.

So thier current level of safety is irrelevant when using it as a model.

The bombing in Manchester concert also shows,guns or not somebody intent on doing harm will find a w
a way to inflict it.

Even a simple van can be used,as you are well aware of.

England has a knife ban but the amount of stabbings in London is at critical levels.

You going to advocate the banning of vans now? Saying the gunman would not exist if you remove weapons would be the same as the van killer would not have existed if you had banned vans.