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    Default Detroit to host Democratic Debate this Summer

    More details to come, tentative date is July 30-31

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/02/polit...oit/index.html

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    Amazing! I thought it was going to be held in Venezuela!

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    No room in their fancy hotels where 'their' elite hold up -- looking down upon the masses below.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray1936 View Post
    Amazing! I thought it was going to be held in Venezuela!
    Last edited by Zacha341; April-03-19 at 12:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray1936 View Post
    Amazing! I thought it was going to be held in Venezuela!
    Luckily the 'Venezuela' candidate is the only one who will beat Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray1936 View Post
    Amazing! I thought it was going to be held in Venezuela!
    I’ve heard that Russia, Saudi Arabia and North Korea are offering to host any GOP debates.

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    Lets hope we have some good candidates this time instead of picking the lesser of two evils.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddaydetroit View Post
    Lets hope we have some good candidates this time...
    There's definitely a great candidate running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddaydetroit View Post
    Lets hope we have some good candidates this time instead of picking the lesser of two evils.
    I am going to go out on a limb and say that you do not feel any good candidates have come forward yet?

    Outside of the current president of course.

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    so where? Cobo? Ren Cen? How can the public attend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypestyles View Post
    so where? Cobo? Ren Cen? How can the public attend?
    That info would have been nice.

    Yang, Warren and Sanders. In that order.

    Then the field.

    Then a piece of dogshit.
    Then birdshit.

    Then the Republican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brizee View Post
    ...Then a piece of dogshit.
    Then birdshit.

    Then the Republican.
    LOL! Literally, I laughed out loud.

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    Prediction! Identity politics and the promise of free stuff will force the Dems to nominate a socialist colored women for candidacy [[gay for bonus points). Trump slam dunks 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SammyS View Post
    Prediction! Identity politics and the promise of free stuff will force the Dems to nominate a socialist colored women for candidacy [[gay for bonus points). Trump slam dunks 2020.
    My grandfather was born in 1909. Throughout his life, he called Poles, Polacks, and Hungarians, Hunkies, and worse, usually to their face. By the time he died in 1994, he wouldn't have used the phrase, 'colored woman'. When were you born?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archfan View Post
    My grandfather was born in 1909. Throughout his life, he called Poles, Polacks, and Hungarians, Hunkies, and worse, usually to their face. By the time he died in 1994, he wouldn't have used the phrase, 'colored woman'. When were you born?
    This site is full of old crotchety white men that took full advantage of a country that they didn't build while voting for tax cuts for the wealthy and endless wars. Most of them were able to get good jobs with just a high school diploma and if they went to college it wasn't that expensive. They fear everything which is why most of them fled the city as more minorities came into the city. They call some of the same policies their parents voted for during the FDR years socialism now. They racked up the debt over and over again to favor themselves. They were fake and phony during the Vietnam era with their summers of love and everything else. Even people like Jim Morrison said pretty much that the only reason that culture could exist is because of a bunch of middle class spoiled white folks. You really can't reason with them, just hope they die off and quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oddz313 View Post
    This site is full of old crotchety white men that took full advantage of a country that they didn't build while voting for tax cuts for the wealthy and endless wars. Most of them were able to get good jobs with just a high school diploma and if they went to college it wasn't that expensive. They fear everything which is why most of them fled the city as more minorities came into the city. They call some of the same policies their parents voted for during the FDR years socialism now. They racked up the debt over and over again to favor themselves. They were fake and phony during the Vietnam era with their summers of love and everything else. Even people like Jim Morrison said pretty much that the only reason that culture could exist is because of a bunch of middle class spoiled white folks. You really can't reason with them, just hope they die off and quickly.
    Basically all this x100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bham1982 View Post
    Basically all this x100.

    This coming from a white guy who chose to move to and live in a lilly-white neighborhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oddz313 View Post
    This site is full of old crotchety white men that took full advantage of a country that they didn't build while voting for tax cuts for the wealthy and endless wars. Most of them were able to get good jobs with just a high school diploma and if they went to college it wasn't that expensive. They fear everything which is why most of them fled the city as more minorities came into the city. They call some of the same policies their parents voted for during the FDR years socialism now. They racked up the debt over and over again to favor themselves. They were fake and phony during the Vietnam era with their summers of love and everything else. Even people like Jim Morrison said pretty much that the only reason that culture could exist is because of a bunch of middle class spoiled white folks. You really can't reason with them, just hope they die off and quickly.
    Yes, there’s lots of crotchety old white men who fled Detroit. There are also a lot of crotchety old Africa Americans who left too. When the city is burning down around you, crime is out of control, some city services are non existent and the city schools are horrendous, I wouldn’t pin the blame on anybody leaving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archfan View Post
    My grandfather was born in 1909. Throughout his life, he called Poles, Polacks, and Hungarians, Hunkies, and worse, usually to their face. By the time he died in 1994, he wouldn't have used the phrase, 'colored woman'. When were you born?
    Actually it reads "a socialist colored women" which is grammatically incorrect.

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    Or it will be like throwing a piece of meat to a bunch of starving cats,they will spend all of thier time distracted tearing each other up while Trump wins again.

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    ^ and some of them were like the ones before them at 18 were on a battlefield giving thier lives for thier country.

    Not sure what circles you run in but I know lots of old folk of all races and colors that made good in life,the ones that took the initiative anyways and did not wait to have it handed to them.

    What exactly has the younger generation built? Outside of violent video games and lists of discrepancies based on things that they do not understand?

    It was no different for most back then as it is today,struggle and unfairness is a part of the ride,it is how one chooses to deal with it,some like the path of least resistance and blame everybody else.

    FDRs policies,mostly influenced by his wife,were based on a temporary hand up when in dire straights and not life long government support.

    They were designed to instill hope and a little pride when somebody was going through a hard time and not corral into desperation in order to look like the nice guy that saves to day,which is socialist,

    There is a big difference.
    Last edited by Richard; April-04-19 at 08:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    ^ and some of them were like the ones before them at 18 were on a battlefield giving thier lives for thier country.

    Not sure what circles you run in but I know lots of old folk of all races and colors that made good in life,the ones that took the initiative anyways and did not wait to have it handed to them.

    What exactly has the younger generation built? Outside of violent video games and lists of discrepancies based on things that they do not understand?

    It was no different for most back then as it is today,struggle and unfairness is a part of the ride,it is how one chooses to deal with it,some like the path of least resistance and blame everybody else.

    FDRs policies,mostly influenced by his wife,were based on a temporary hand up when in dire straights and not life long government support.

    They were designed to instill hope and a little pride when somebody was going through a hard time and not corral into desperation in order to look like the nice guy that saves to day,which is socialist,

    There is a big difference.
    They didn't take initiative just took advantage of being able to make 100k on the assembly line with a high school diploma or less, then took advantage of a house being worth 20 times the amount is was worth 35 years ago, then took advantage of the stock market being worth 30 times it was 35 years ago then when that gig was up they had the market bailed out so they could cash out. Really the younger generation has not had a chance to build anything because the boomers won't let them until they cash out and die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oddz313 View Post
    They didn't take initiative just took advantage of being able to make 100k on the assembly line with a high school diploma or less, then took advantage of a house being worth 20 times the amount is was worth 35 years ago, then took advantage of the stock market being worth 30 times it was 35 years ago then when that gig was up they had the market bailed out so they could cash out. Really the younger generation has not had a chance to build anything because the boomers won't let them until they cash out and die.

    So how did that older generation acquire wealth?

    You posted it,buying a house,investments in stocks etc. and waiting the 30 years to appreciate.

    In Detroit a younger person making not much money could buy a duplex in a scetchy part of town reasonably,rent out half to pay the note and buy another every three years.

    When the whole bankruptcy thing was going on somebody posted asking where the next best place in the city was to purchase real estate,I replied it does not matter,the dirt has the value.

    This thread proves it,winning the lottery is fast cash,acquireing wealth is long term if you do not start with it.Most generally it is through real estate appreciation.

    But you cannot look at it as 30 years ago somebody paid X amount of dollars for a house and now sold it for X amount of dollars and made a ton of money,it cost them the price of the house plus 30 years interest payments.

    A live in house is kinda like a 401k,you just have to keep cleaning and maintaining it.

    The only difference is they purchased verses renting for 30 years.

    The young not having opportunities I would differ with,when I was young there were no opertuinities either,I had to create them and maybe it is a local thing but where I am at there are plenty of young folk buying $450,000 starter homes,driving brand new cars,riding $1000 bicycles,starting businesses.

    They are buying houses for $150k tearing them down and building $450k we are at $135-$165 per sqft new build.

    We were getting $165 per sqft remolding during the last peak.

    They do not need the boomers money,they seem to be doing just fine at finding or creating thier own opportunities.

    Just as there are plenty of young folk asking when it is thier turn,it is no different now then it was for generations past.

    But that’s what you do,spend money on appreciating assets,a sexy new BMW you cannot live in and 30 years down the road it will have no value,yes okay it was hard to guess in Detroit but Detroit is no different then every other city,it was just a little slower out of the gate,which is an advantage.

    I remember the 70s recession,80s recession,90s recession,2000s recession,they were all the same.the cycle is the same,economy rises to the point where it cannot substain prices so it crashes to correct and starts all over again.

    Save your money and buy cash when it crashes and sell when it comes back,or buy cheap at the crash then buy more at the next crash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archfan View Post
    My grandfather was born in 1909. Throughout his life, he called Poles, Polacks, and Hungarians, Hunkies, and worse, usually to their face. By the time he died in 1994, he wouldn't have used the phrase, 'colored woman'. When were you born?
    Not that old. I used the word colored for two reasons:
    1. It is apparently politically incorrect to use the word “black”. When did that change?
    2. I think the Libs will go full virtue signally by nominating an African American-Latino women. Forced diversity maybe?

    Not agreeing or disagreeing with thier choices. Neither am I a Republican but I do lean right [[anti war fiscally conservative constitutionalist). What pisses me off is how the Democrats have put thier political biases before the country. It’s all “orange man bad” no matter what Trump does. I also think, despite the constant attacks from the left, especially after the Russian Collusion debacle, his base has strengthened. He’ll be hard to beat so the left better wise up if they want a chance.

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    ^^^Hah, to weigh in on the nomenclature relative to what black folks are called: In academia and politics it seems best to use the word African-American or woman, man or [[safer yet) person of color. Black people I know here in the D mostly use black in relation to each other [[I'm black and ok with that).

    To the original point, the dems must reign in the extremes in their party, understanding the being solely reactionary to Trump will not nominate a candidate. Middle America is not interested in extremes. The radicals, in pragmatic style, will only further set people against each other.

    Perhaps that's the larger goal? Anyway, as another poster stated can we finally have "some good candidates this time instead of picking the lesser of two evils"?

    We've been there, done that.
    Last edited by Zacha341; April-04-19 at 09:52 AM.

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    Step outside of politics for a moment everyone. Take a look at the larger picture.

    It's amazing that a political party has chosen Detroit to conduct a debate. It's a far-cry from Reagan in 1980 and the Republican National Convention.

    This is a huge step for the city to be able to hold an event of this magnitude. Embrace it, enjoy it.

    Now, back to your usual debates!

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