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    Quote Originally Posted by Worldsgreatest View Post
    ..Incompetent, expensive and corrupt cities like San Francisco struggle, not surprising...
    San Francisco expensive?

    No argument here. I have absolutely no desire to live there and live with a bunch of roommates in shoe box.

    That being said, Its metro area has added nearly 400,000 people in the past decade, so for a lot of people, the high costs aren't enough to deter them from living there [[this is part of what drives the COL BTW, supply vs. demand). Furthermore, for everyone else, there are quite a few options in terms of "bang for your buck" between expensive San Francisco and Detroit, so I'm not sure how this fact alone necessarily makes Detroit look any better. Just as San Francisco is expensive for a reason, the inverse also applies as Detroit is cheap for a reason.

    San Francisco corrupt?

    Yeah, I don't think people in glass houses should throw stones. A study was recently by the University of Illinois at Chicago that rankrd the 15 most corrupt cities in the US by the number of federal corruption convictions. San Francisco is nowhere to be found on the list, but guess what city landed at #8?

    https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/1...for-2018.html/

    Now, one could say the corrupt leaders in San Francisco just haven't got caught. That's possible, but what that suggests to me is they're apparently a lot more competent at their jobs if they have avoided corruption charges, which brings us to the next item...

    San Francisco incompetent?

    True, San Francisco has budget problems as a result of its long-term debt obligations [[like most big legacy cities), but Detroit isn't that much better off. The bankruptcy helped it to kick the can down the road some by restructing its pension obligations, but it's still suffering from the fundamental problems of an unstable/non-diverse economy and a relatively small middle class/corporate tax base. Plus, the quality of services it offers still range from mediocre by first world standards to third world-like. San Francisco, on the other hand, is still able to offer its citizens excellent level of services for their tax dollars [[amongst the top 25 in the country in terms of quality).

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inm...n-america/amp/
    Last edited by 313WX; December-07-18 at 03:13 AM.

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