Marijuana Legalization in Canada and Michigan

[Richard]

^ they have known about this stuff for years but still implement it.

In the 80s they determined over 60% of paper currency had trace amounts of cocaine on it ,but it was still confiscated because it was deemed to have been used in the drug trade.

Florida found out the roadside test kits for DUI,drugs had a 90% false positive rate,but they still kept using them and charging and arresting people.

Interesting enough they busted a massive cartel grow warehouse that was smack dab in the middle of a major city in California,they figured they were doing 60 million a year in weed,I thought the whole concept was to bring it out in the open and tax it.

I have been out of that stuff for years but I may or may not have had somebody show me a bag the other day and said it sells for $260 an OZ,thats crazy,I remember pumping out 5 finger bags at $25.

It appears as though legalization has pushed up the price in the street.

I am curious as to now that Amazon has publicly stated this,what will their insurance carrier say if an accident occurs and somebody tests positive.

Unless they changed or are self insured,my commercial insurance becomes null and void if in an auto accident or on site accident and they test positive for drugs or liquor.

Same goes for worker comp.

[Gistok]

^ The marijuana sold via dispensaries today is light years ahead in potency compared to the "seed filled rag weed from Mexico" of 40 years ago. Marijuana that has gone to seed has lost so much of its' potency, compared to seedless sinsemilla of today.

[Honky Tonk]

^ The marijuana sold via dispensaries today is light years ahead in potency compared to the "seed filled rag week from Mexico" of 40 years ago. Marijuana that has gone to seed has lost so much of its' potency, compared to seedless sinsemilla of today.

I had a conversation with a doctor acquaintance of mine. It started out with me asking her about Covid, and if she's seeing more cases, her feelings about it, etc. She told me the biggest problem they're seeing in ER was people being admitted for various Marijuana problems. [respiratory, breathing, hallucinations, heart related issues, etc.] The pot sold these days is supercharged by design. It's not your father's marijuana, and casual smokers, especially those with underlying medical problems, get carried away and end up having issues.

[Gistok]

^Honky Tonk... my nephew was talking to me about a super charged version of marijuana called "kief"... which is the loose flower buds that break off of the high potency buds, and sold in small quantities as "shake", and gives the user a much more intoxicating buzz. The kief of many years ago [using less potent marijuana] was what used to be made into hashish. But now this stuff really packs a super buzz... or as Wiki says... "an unwelcome level of intoxication".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kief

[Jimaz]

... She told me the biggest problem they're seeing in ER was people being admitted for various Marijuana problems. [respiratory, breathing, hallucinations, heart related issues, etc.] The pot sold these days is supercharged by design...

No kidding:

Officials warn of fentanyl-laced marijuana in Michigan, call it ‘emerging public health threat’

If you purchase marijuana products, only do so from licensed and reputable sources and vendors.

In this case, legalization was a wise move.

[Jimaz]

... my nephew was talking to me about a super charged version of marijuana called "kief"... which is the loose flower buds that break off of the high potency buds, and sold in small quantities as "shake", and gives the user a much more intoxicating buzz. The kief of many years ago [using less potent marijuana] was what used to be made into hashish....

Tommy Chong on the subject:

Old Weed vs New Weed with Tommy Chong

[Richard]

^ a lot of truth in that,also kinda kills the whole as nature intended argument when you have to genetically alter it.

Maybe the way to go is open a Whole Foods type of dispensary,grown as nature intended with no artificial additives.

Can even charge more.

Maybe people looking for potency never tried a pinch of weed and a few specks of PCP sprinkled on in a one hitter.

Remember hash oil,a line of it down the paper of a rolled joint,Hawaiian that was so tight you had to cut the bud up with a scissors,Columbian gold,red bud,sticky bud,all of those only took a few tokes to get zoned.

Remember when you bought the Cheech n Chong up in smoke album,it can with the giant rolling paper.

I think I would have a hard time now getting stoned and listen to rap,verses the doors,Pink Floyd,Led Zeppelin etc ,it just would not be the same.

[Henry Whalley]

A little humor from the Onion

Cannabis Company Makes 850-Pound Pot Brownie [[theonion.com)

[Ray1936]

I could never figure out the joy you pot heads get from that shit. Me? I always had a bottle of Ripple and was always happy.

[Henry Whalley]

I could never figure out the joy you pot heads get from that shit. Me? I always had a bottle of Ripple and was always happy.

If I were king of the world I'd criminalize Ripple and MD 20/20

[canuck]

If I were king of the world I'd criminalize Ripple and MD 20/20

Of course you would. But you’d want to celebrate first by smoking some shit, cracking a bottle of the cheapest ripple, a viagra pill and some doritos. Don’t do it on your lonesome.

[Henry Whalley]

Of course you would. But you’d want to celebrate first by smoking some shit, cracking a bottle of the cheapest ripple, a viagra pill and some doritos. Don’t do it on your lonesome.

"It's good to be the king."

It is good to be the king! Or is it? - YouTube

[Richard]

I could never figure out the joy you pot heads get from that shit. Me? I always had a bottle of Ripple and was always happy.

But look at how much easier your finances are now that they are able to tax it and pump billions back into the economy like they said it would,kinda like the lottery did for the school system.

[Henry Whalley]

But look at how much easier your finances are now that they are able to tax it and pump billions back into the economy like they said it would,kinda like the lottery did for the school system.

Michigan realized $45.7 million in taxes and fees from the cannabis industry in 2020. In addition, our police don't spend time chasing pot heads. IMHO all victimless crimes should be decriminalized. Instead, we should use public security to apprehend and imprison people who want to overthrow the constitutional order, e.g., Maralago Mussolini and his flying monkeys.

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[Richard]

Michigan realized $45.7 million in taxes and fees from the cannabis industry in 2020. In addition, our police don't spend time chasing pot heads. IMHO all victimless crimes should be decriminalized. Instead, we should use public security to apprehend and imprison people who want to overthrow the constitutional order, e.g., Maralago Mussolini and his flying monkeys.

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LOL you would fit right in places like Suffolk county NY where the new administration appointed prosecutor declared,breaking and entering,retail theft,assault,as in you can literally beat the shit out of somebody walking down the street with impunity,all non prosecutable cases.

How come under the current administration I cannot have a grow house without being arrested ?

It’s a victimless crime right?

Legalized or not it is still more profitable for the neighborhood teen to sell weed instead of getting a real job,so it is still destroying the fabric of society.

I just broke off a long term business arrangement with somebody that because of the recent look the other way attitudes,he cannot now get into a vehicle without getting stoned,not just one joint,every 2 hours,you cannot show up to customers place of business stoned and reeking of weed.

I used to smoke,it alters your state of mind,that is kinda the whole purpose,it is not a victimless crime,people are making themselves victims.

They should have decriminalized it and not made it legal,from what I have seen so far there is increased consumption along with increased potency and people cannot handle it and even worse,kids are taking the gummy bear things that are supposed to be chopped up in 1/4 for adults,and eating the whole thing and ending up in the hospital.

Its like anything else,it all has its ramifications.

Show me where in the constitution where you have a constitutional right to smoke weed,sense you brought it up.

Colorado and Washington became the first states to legalize recreational marijuana in 2012. Several years later, doctors in Colorado and other states are expressing alarm over the increasing potency of cannabis and the health risks it may pose for young users — from psychiatric issues, including violent psychotic episodes, to the mysterious condition that plagued Gribbon.
The condition — officially called "cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome" but now known to health care workers as "scromiting," a mashup of "screaming" and "vomiting" — has popped up with increasing frequency at hospitals in Colorado, doctors say.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...young-n1273463

How much out of the 45 million collected in taxes is going back into healthcare for those who do not have it and have to be treated.

It would be okay if it was as nature intended it,but now they have gone way past that and they do not even know what the long term effects of the fertilizers and other chemicals used in increasing the potency.

Nature did not just decide it needed help.

Everybody,that I know anyways, that has been taking opioids for pain,received their medical use card,they did not discontinue the opioids,they still use them in addition to smoking for pain relief.

Perceived victimless crimes

• Prostitution
• Recreational drug possession or use [[also referred to as hard drug use or illegal drug use)
• Public Drinking / Intoxication
• Trespassing
• Assisted Suicide
• Traffic Violations [[like failing to use a turn signal, running a red light or speeding)
• Illegal Gambling

Illegal gambling

Do not pay your bookie cor your gambling debts and watch how fast you become a victim.

Hit somebody as a result of excessive speed and somebody becomes a victim.

Trespassing will get you shot in a lot of states

Public drinking and intoxication,because everybody wants to deal with a bunch of drunks running about.

Prostitution,yea okay until they throw minors in the mix,or beat her ass because she did not make her set quota for the day with tricks,even Amsterdam has had their fill of it and trying to regulate it out of mainstream.

I grew up with decriminalized weed,you could get caught up with up to a 1/4 lb and as long as you did not have baggies or a scale on you they either dumped it on the ground or sent you on your way,but it was still considered illegal so they still had the ability to play cat and mouse with people like I was back then.

There was alot of things they could have done outside of opening the floodgates,now that they are open it is hard to bring the flood under control.

[Bong-Man]

I grew up with decriminalized weed,you could get caught up with up to a 1/4 lb and as long as you did not have baggies or a scale on you they either dumped it on the ground or sent you on your way,but it was still considered illegal so they still had the ability to play cat and mouse with people like I was back then.

bloviate

[ˈblōvēˌāt]




VERB
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informal

• talk at length, especially in an inflated or empty way.
  
  
  
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[Henry Whalley]

bloviate [ˈblōvēˌāt]

Used in a sentence:

"He wastes precious time on earth bloviating thoughts less weighty than fart bubbles."

Sad:[[

[Richard]

Used in a sentence:

"He wastes precious time on earth bloviating thoughts less weighty than fart bubbles."

Sad:[[

It was providing an example of the differences between legalization and decriminalization.

Thank you for providing an example of being stoned while not having the ability to think with a clear mind.

Fart bubbles,I have not heard that reference sense grade school,are we all supposed to be giggling now because you used the word?

I have been in the trades for over 40 years,a large percentage cannot even show up for work without getting stoned,facts are not bloviate.

[Henry Whalley]

...the differences between legalization and decriminalization...

A merciful non-bloviator would illustrate the difference in a few sentences, or even better, simply provide a link like this:

Decriminalization legal definition of decriminalization [[thefreedictionary.com)

[Richard]

^ if you are looking for mercy,try praying.

Decriminalizing achieves the same objective as legalization,the goal was to stop the need for arrests for small amounts and relieve the strain on the jails,nothing else,the whole medical part was justification.

I agree with that.

Plain out legalization removes the tools that decriminalization retains in order to pull it back in if it gets out of control.

You know exactly what will happen when it gets out of control,they will switch back to extreme measures,because they cannot find middle ground on anything,it is one extreme to the other.

[Henry Whalley]

^ if you are looking for mercy,try praying.

I have tried prayer, but you keep posting.

[Richard]

I have tried prayer, but you keep posting.

Imagine that,people posting in a public forum,who would have ever thought?

Have another hit,you may get another brainstorm,I will beat you to the next one,electric appliances work better when they are plugged into a power source

[leapfrog]

Imagine that,people posting in a public forum,who would have ever thought?

Have another hit,you may get another brainstorm,I will beat you to the next one,electric appliances work better when they are plugged into a power source

Posting is fine.
I think he is referring to the length, content and frequency.
It does sometimes feel like Karl is back...

[Richard]

Posting is fine.
I think he is referring to the length, content and frequency.
It does sometimes feel like Karl is back...

Do some of you need help ?

Seriously,is somebody holding you hostage in a basement somewhere and preventing you from contributing or threatening to shock collar you if you post more then 1 line of non contribution?

People need to get over themselves,it’s the internet,there will always be those who post more then others

How do you guys handle yourself in real life when there are discussions around you that you do not agree with? I guarantee that you do not voice your opinions of others like you do here.

Not sure of the reason of the Karl reference or who that even is but it always amazes me when people post under fake names while calling others out,it like one is trying to hide something.

What level of credibility is there really when an anonymous poster under an assumed name claims the higher ground?

I post under my real name because I do not have anything to hide and I am not going to say anything or act towards anybody else any different then I would in real life.

That’s the way it works,you give people the same respect that they give you and when people give you crap,you give it right back.

Some people like to abuse the anonymous aspect to far,or use it as a means to hide.

[Gistok]

Posting is fine.
I think he is referring to the length, content and frequency.
It does sometimes feel like Karl is back...

Ah yes... remember Karl... he did quit DYES the moment he hit 10,000 posts... ugh... I still don't know why Lowell didn't give us a "shooting ones self in the head" emoticon after Karl left... all we have is this one...