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    Quote Originally Posted by dtowncitylover View Post
    The idea isn't rail ridership. The idea is investing in public transit and the economic and social benefits it provides.

    And you showing me a list of 30 commuter rail systems in the U.S. isn't exactly disproving my point. In fact, I'm unsure what you're trying to show considering most of the big regions that we are trying to compete with it are on there. Then again, we are also on a global stage and we're still struggling.

    Please show me a study about the economic benefits of Uber/Lyft that equate to the same benefits of mass transit systems. I'd love to see it.

    This Duggan thing, while forward thinking, is probably not going to happen. It's just him trying to show how open he is to big projects. That's nice.
    In no way do I support Uber as a viable solution to public transportation. You must have me confused with someone else.

    I just answered iheartthed my feelings on public transportation. It does have links but not the ones your looking for.

    The lower taxes in the suburbs are only lower relative to Detroit.

    Lansing rigged the system to benefit the suburbs and strip the wealth and jobs out of Detroit and move them to the suburbs.

    The really stupid part is that while they concentrated on that job, other states where lining up and doing the exact same thing to Michigan.

    Property taxes in all of Michigan are too high to compete very well nationally, but in Detroit they are a death knell they are so high. 90 mills is supposed to keep people confused. If you don’t know what that means please learn the math.

    I support public transportation but it has to be funded by the same successful tax vehicles it is elsewhere. If public transport has the same lousy tax vehicle hitched to it it will be underfunded, fail and face a day of reckoning when the property tax rates are finally examined as the major growth inhibiter they are. It will happen just like it did to the personal property tax here. It is not a matter of ‘if’ just a matter of ‘when.’ What we have going on is unsustainable long term in relation to other states. They are literally eating off our plate, taking our most talented people away and the jobs that go with them.

    https://taxfoundation.org/how-high-a...es-your-state/

    https://treas-secure.state.mi.us/pte...TEstimator.asp
    Last edited by ABetterDetroit; June-18-18 at 09:34 PM.

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