On the MS13 question, I don't blame Trump for the "animal discourse". It can be debated long and hard whether his crew steers him in that direction, the open ended call for the removal of illegals plays in, but of course if you are dealing with assassins of that kind, the terms of discourse don't offer much relief.

On the other hand, humans are not to be outdone in the animal kingdom for cruelty. I never really grabbed onto the definition of human or humanitarian anymore than the term "humane" referring to the kind treatment to animals. To somehow think that humans are above animals when all we do is compete for abstract levels of power, territory, gains is wickedly inane.