Is Beaumont Hospital really...

**Tripper** · August-26-09, 07:05 PM

Best in Detroit...one of the best nationwide. Born there. Only place I would go for serious issues.

**REL** · August-26-09, 07:26 PM

Beaumont is a fantastic hospital, if you're looking for a post-op infection. That was the reason behind them losing their JCHCO [[www.jointcommission.org) accreditation. I was pretty surprised that I didn't see any media coverage about this. Paging Dr. George

They were reviewed again after losing it, and didn't get it back. Then I heard recently they now have the accreditation again after an additional review.

As for Rosa Kashat's family, I sincerely hope these tortured souls will accept that the hospital investigated & apologized for the accident. I hope for their sake they start to move on [[she passed over 2 years ago). Beaumont wrote the family a letter explaining that it had never happened to anyone else before, said they were deeply sorry, and took steps to make sure it never happens again. She was morbidly obese, 75 years old, suffering from cardio disease, and fell onto her stomach & hip when they tried to maneuver her on the procedure table. It was an accident. Nothing can bring his mother back. I hope she rests in peace.

I had a loved one die in Beaumont, and wasn't happy with the level of care. Had they been more on their toes with the 'big picture' of his health history instead of cutting his care into a million pieces for the 'specialists', he wouldn't have died that day. But his day still would have come eventually. When he passed, I wasn't consumed with blame, just grief. I still am, and that was years ago.

Anyone know if Fieger is still representing the family on this? If the situation was clearly the hospital's negligence and not just an accident, then why hasn't this been resolved in court? Why does the family need the court of public opinion instead?

Bearinabox · August-26-09, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by AroundTown

If the situation was clearly the hospital's negligence and not just an accident, then why hasn't this been resolved in court? Why does the family need the court of public opinion instead?

Because that dude in the van is batshit crazy?

**REL** · August-26-09, 07:53 PM

BIBox, you cut right to the chase.

Stosh · August-26-09, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by Bearinabox

Because that dude in the van is batshit crazy?

More than one vehicle drives around with that on it. More than one guy doing it as well. Both guys look the same, must be brothers.

LodgeDodger · August-26-09, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by Stosh

More than one vehicle drives around with that on it. More than one guy doing it as well. Both guys look the same, must be brothers.

Then Rosa Kashat has two idiot, scammer sons? Great.

**Ltdave** · August-26-09, 09:02 PM

Beaumont from my understanding is also a teaching hospital in that the Drs are doing their residencies...

my sister worked there as a nurse for about 8-10 months before moving back to Kalamazoo to work...

a co-worker went there for over a year trying to get his knee fixed and they kept rotating him around the orthopaedic department and he never got it taken care of. one DR came in looked at his chart, told him to take some motrin poked his finger along side the kneecap ONCE and said, 'yep, ill write you for some 800s. 3 a day should be fine.' when he finally came to MY orthopod he had an MRI done, and then arthroscopic to repair a torn MCL. hes back to running and playing soccer which he hadnt been able to do in something like 15 months...

i dont down live that way so i dont expect to have to go there for anything...

lilpup · August-26-09, 10:42 PM

Beaumont's become sloppy and overrated. My family used it all the time until about two years ago when they short-changed my dad's heart problems. My mom then got him into the heart program at Henry Ford - night and day difference in treatment and results.

**Doma** · August-27-09, 12:03 AM

All I know is I rushed in with a mangled arm which included a cut artery. They stitched me up and sent me out the door in under an hour, I was very impressed.

**Homer** · August-27-09, 12:50 AM

I worked at Beaumont for several years in the 80's. At that time the care was comparable to DMC but the attitude of the staff was very "North of 8 Mile". I chose to leave and return to work with real people who treated patients not demographics.
Have been happy with HFHS for years for my own and my family's care, they can't be beat. They are not in it for the buck. Blowmont has tried to hard with their PR.
DO YOU HAVE A BEAUMONT DOCTOR? sick of it..........

**Dave70** · August-27-09, 05:55 AM

I see ads on craig's list offering $15 an hour to carry signs protesting Dr. Berman and Beaumont.

**rb336** · August-27-09, 09:02 AM

Thomson Reuters:
http://www.100tophospitals.com/winners/hswinners.aspx

THE 100 TOP HOSPITALSÂ®: Health System Quality/Efficiency BENCHMARKS
Health SystemCity, StateAdvocate Health CareOak Brook, ILCatholic Healthcare PartnersCincinnati, OHHealth Alliance of Greater CincinnatiCincinnati, OHHealthEast Care SystemSaint Paul, MNHenry Ford Health SystemDetroit, MIKettering Health NetworkDayton, OHOhioHealthColumbus, OHPrime Healthcare Services, Inc.Victorville, CATrinity HealthNovi, MIUniversity Hospitals Health SystemsCleveland, OH

not a beaumont in the list. Michigan leads the nation with 11 in the top 100

detmich · August-27-09, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by pkbroch

I see that suburban type vehicle all the time on Woodward. Driving up and down, sitting on the side of the road, weekdays and weekends. Does anyone know the story, I have never seen anything like that before.

Why does everything have to be about suburbs vs. city?

**unclefrank** · August-27-09, 09:58 AM

I don't use the term often, but it applies to that dump. Do I have a personal issue with that place, you bet! My wife worked there as an ER Nurse, and told me stories that curl your hair. When she was injured on the job, they denied her workman's comp claim and put her through hell trying to collect. Just a sleazy money grubbing operation all the way.

**drjeff** · August-27-09, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by crawford

"The same model" does not mean "the same quality."
Wayne County Community College is based on "the same model" as Harvard.

Fact is, Beaumont is a better hospital for 95% of procedures.

Citation needed. The fact is that HFHS is better at most procedures and has some of the best physicians in the world. You seem to have an issue with it just because it is within the Detroit city limits. Independent rankings indicate it is one of the top hospitals in the whole country.

**jackie5275** · August-27-09, 11:14 AM

I had a colleague who is a cardiac patient who always goes there for anything. She swears it's the best place around & is pleased with her care there. My sister in law works there & doesn't share my colleague's opinion.

**REL** · August-27-09, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by unclefrank

...My wife worked there as an ER Nurse, and told me stories that curl your hair.

Do tell, Uncle Frank?

**6nois** · August-27-09, 08:36 PM

Well I was leaving my apartment in Midtown less than a mile from Henry Ford and DMC and a pregnant woman crashed into the corner of my car. She was going into labor and was driving to Royal Oak to go to Beaumont because she didn't want to have her child in Detroit. Clearly Beaumont is much better than anywhere else in the world. LOL.

crawford · August-27-09, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by drjeff

Citation needed. The fact is that HFHS is better at most procedures and has some of the best physicians in the world.

Untrue for most procedures. Stitches or the flu do not require globally renowned specialists, they require skilled people who care, in comfortable environment.

Whether or not it Henry Ford has some of the best in the world is irrelevent to the VAST majority of patients.

Beaumont serves upscale, privately insured demographics, with spacious facilities in a welcoming environment. Henry Ford is overburdened with poor folks on Medicaid, leading to slapdash service and care for all. Its emergency room is a nightmare.

And frankly, I find it hard to believe that "some of the best doctors in the world" would choose to work in an inner-city Detroit hospital affiliated with a lower-ranking medical school, as opposed to Harvard-Mass General, Cornell-Columbia Presbyterian, Cedars-Sinai, etc. In fact, I find it hard to believe that a typical doctor, living in Bloomfield Hills or someplace similar, would prefer a longer commute to a dangerous, barren neighborhood, all for the privilege of serving angry, poor people who can't pay.

Originally Posted by drjeff

You seem to have an issue with it just because it is within the Detroit city limits.

Indeed, I do. Location is absolutely key to hospital environment and patient care. And Henry Ford isn't just within city limits; it's smack-dab in the poorest part of the city.

Originally Posted by drjeff

Independent rankings indicate it is one of the top hospitals in the whole country.

Ratings A. Based on specialized procedures, and B. For Henry Ford network, not the Detroit hospital.

There may be an affiliated doctor or two that can do things that can't be done at Beaumont. And I'm sure these procedures are mostly conducted in the suburban branches, where the patients and their doctors actually live. As previously mentioned, I would highly recommend Henry Ford, just not the inner-city operation.

**raptor56** · August-28-09, 01:13 AM

More rankings

http://health.usnews.com/health/best-hospitals

**jefferson78** · August-28-09, 08:41 AM

My hospital is St. Joseph Mercy in Ypsilanti.
Had two surgeries, several procedures done there.
Absolutely wonderful hospital, great staff, doctors and surgeons.
Clean and professional.
Heartily recommend to that person residing in Belleville.

**jt1** · August-28-09, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by crawford

Untrue for most procedures. Stitches or the flu do not require globally renowned specialists, they require skilled people who care, in comfortable environment.

Whether or not it Henry Ford has some of the best in the world is irrelevent to the VAST majority of patients.

Beaumont serves upscale, privately insured demographics, with spacious facilities in a welcoming environment. Henry Ford is overburdened with poor folks on Medicaid, leading to slapdash service and care for all. Its emergency room is a nightmare.

And frankly, I find it hard to believe that "some of the best doctors in the world" would choose to work in an inner-city Detroit hospital affiliated with a lower-ranking medical school, as opposed to Harvard-Mass General, Cornell-Columbia Presbyterian, Cedars-Sinai, etc. In fact, I find it hard to believe that a typical doctor, living in Bloomfield Hills or someplace similar, would prefer a longer commute to a dangerous, barren neighborhood, all for the privilege of serving angry, poor people who can't pay.

Indeed, I do. Location is absolutely key to hospital environment and patient care. And Henry Ford isn't just within city limits; it's smack-dab in the poorest part of the city.

Ratings A. Based on specialized procedures, and B. For Henry Ford network, not the Detroit hospital.

There may be an affiliated doctor or two that can do things that can't be done at Beaumont. And I'm sure these procedures are mostly conducted in the suburban branches, where the patients and their doctors actually live. As previously mentioned, I would highly recommend Henry Ford, just not the inner-city operation.

You still have yet to post anything factual to support your claim. If Beaumont is sooooo great as you claim a quick google search should give yout tons of evidence to support your claim.

Until then you may as well just admit that you are posting strictly based upon your opinion.

**Baselinepunk** · August-28-09, 09:19 AM

Wow. This thread confirms that it hasn't been "just me" all of these years. My list:

#1 son almost died on the able at 16 months after being over anesthetized during a simple procedure.

Wife screwed up her knee real good. After waiting 5 hours for xrays [[yes, that would be until 5 in the morning), they put her in an air cast, perscribed Vicodin, told her it was just a sprang and sent us on our way with a referral. Lucky, that referral paid off because she wound up having massive knee reconstruction and was in a hip cast for 3 months.

Wife was told during a blood donation that issues were occuring with her blood. She went to Beaumont and was seen by a rude and unprofessional Doctor who told her she had psorsis of the liver and that she very well may have to have a transplant [[she was 23 at the time). He also informed her that she was "grossly overweight" to boot. We got a second opinion down at Henry Ford which reflected that she only had a fatty liver and that everything was fine with that and her weight. That's about two months of my life I'll never get back.

**Blueidone** · August-28-09, 09:27 AM

Jefferson78: Thank you for that recommendation. Do you perhaps know of a general physician [[family doctor) or internist, orthopedic surgeon and cardiologist in the area that work out of that hospital? I need all three.

Thanks!

**jefferson78** · August-28-09, 09:56 AM

Our family doctor is a Dr. Jason Kahn who works out of Ypsilanti, the orthopedic surgeon who operated on my shoulder is a Dr. Michael Fitzsimmons who operates out of St. Joe Mercy.
Both are highly recommended. I did have back surgery there but cannot recall the surgeons name at the moment.
There are many great orthopedic surgeons there, all specializing in different areas of the body.
I'm sorry I do not know of a cardiologist but I'm sure you should be able to locate one who works at that hospital.
Good Luck to you.