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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    The idea that neo-nazis and white supremacists should have a right to "peaceful protest" is one of the most un-American things I can imagine. It's a cancer that's not weeded out with ideological reasoning.
    The 1st. amendment guarantees unfettered free speech and peaceful assembly to nazi thugs, antifa brownshirts, and all the rest of us. The Constitution does not support murder or people who engage in taking away those 1st. Amendment rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    The 1st. amendment guarantees unfettered free speech and peaceful assembly to nazi thugs, antifa brownshirts, and all the rest of us. The Constitution does not support murder or people who engage in taking away those 1st. Amendment rights.
    And the Supreme Court has continued to draw the line below "unfettered free speech," but who cares?

    Your idiotic labeling of "antifa brownshirts" is reminiscent of conservative simpletons who think the Left should be tolerant of intolerance. They're anti-fascists. You're defending fascists. Normalizing it with some misguided, bootlicking sense of lawfulness doesn't solve the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    And the Supreme Court has continued to draw the line below "unfettered free speech," but who cares?

    Your idiotic labeling of "antifa brownshirts" is reminiscent of conservative simpletons who think the Left should be tolerant of intolerance. They're anti-fascists. You're defending fascists. Normalizing it with some misguided, bootlicking sense of lawfulness doesn't solve the problem.
    From the First Amendment: Congress shall make NO law... abridging the freedom of speech,...or the right of the people PEACEABLY to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    That's what I mean by unfettered. It even allows people like you to advocate or suggest illegal violence without being arrested [[from your post #44 to Pam: "
    Fascists should be met with violence."-noise). That's good because some people might even interpret what you wrote as 'inciting' violence and put you in prison like Woodrow Wilson put his political opponents in prison. It's also good because the rest of us realize where others are coming from. For instance, police should be on alert when Antifa or Nazi brownshirts come to town. When Antifa thugs act like brownshirts and quack like brownshirts, they are brownshirts whatever fanciful thing they choose to call themselves. The link that JBMcB posted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_[[United_States)
    defines Antifa as terrorists.

    While I disagree with you, I continue to support your First Amendment right to say whatever you please.
    Last edited by oladub; August-15-17 at 07:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    The link that JBMcB posted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_[[United_States)
    defines Antifa as terrorists.
    Literally nowhere on that page is the word "terror", "terrorism", or "terrorist" found. Not once. It doesn't help to lie when your lie can be disproven with a simple keyword search.


    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    They should look at how many out of state people were at the rally and which groups funded transportation.
    The murdered woman, Heather Heyer, actually lived IN Charlottesville. The Nazi who murdered her lived in Ohio. In fact, nearly all of the neo-Nazi/KKK/White Supremacists marching that day were from out of town, including a local Southeast Michigan chapter called the "Detroit Right Wings" who utilized the Red Wings logo and are now facing potential legal action from the Illitch Family as a result.

    But yes, it would be worth looking into whether any groups or wealthy individuals funded the travel for the Detroit Right Wings. I am also curious about that.
    Last edited by aj3647; August-16-17 at 10:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    Literally nowhere on that page is the word "terror", "terrorism", or "terrorist" found. Not once. It doesn't help to lie when your lie can be disproven with a simple keyword search
    A simple keyword search brings up the state of New Jersey as listing Antifa under the heading of Domestic Terrorism.

    https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/a...remists-antifa

    Why does it take 300 antifa to protest 25 right wingers,not that I support either one but it seems like they need a lot of back up.

    There also seems to be some confusion between American patroits and right wing.There is a big difference between the two.
    Last edited by Richard; August-16-17 at 12:16 PM.

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