The Big Fat Compendium Of Russiagate Debunkery

[Richard]

Hilarious. And pathetic.

The two previous posters in denial about so-called "Russiagate" [[I'll reluctantly use the term as shorthand here because we're still only beginning to learn the extent of the scandal) are the same ones who advocate getting our political news from Russia Today.





One is such a genius she advocated tuning in to Russia Today for live results and analysis on election night.



Never mind the hilarious part, it's just flat out pathetic.

What is pathetic is people obsessing with Russia hacking,we do the exact same thing to them and everybody else in the world.

The point is not the aspect of Russia hacked us ,because they were doing it way before the election,it is learning thier capabilities and how to thwart them.

20 years ago kids were hacking the department of defense,but yet no other spy group was not? Nobody had a problem with it at that time.

A lot of the fake media sites during the election were done by one American to make money on advertising clicks,but yet there was no outrage.

But they do not need to hack because they seem to be getting plenty of help from American citizens in the divide the population to create instability which drives the markets down and fosters unrest.

So everything is right on schedule for them and thier goals are accomplished,once again compliments of the American public.

People cannot even see that the brand that Russia is selling did not work in thier own country but are quick to embrace it here.

The problem is thier is a side of this country that cannot stand who the currant president is and they will stop at nothing to show thier displeasure.

You see it on social media where people are begging the queen of England to assassinate a standing United States president when he visits there.

WW2 saw the deaths of 60,000,000 civilians and military personal and yet some have no issues with that as long as it takes out the currant president.

The moron that wrote her asking her to take possession of the United States in order to remove the currant president.

The girl recently arrested for giving classified documents to the media while wanting to burn the White House down and repeatedly posting on social media that Trump was not her president.

You see the difference,what is worse,Russian hacking that has been going on for decades or a percentage of this country's population that would have no problem with a nuclear attack in this country as long as it takes the guy out that they do not like.

Do not like the guy fine,that is ones right as a US citizen,but when that discust turns into actions that undermines and endangers this country and the rest of the population because you do not like the guy,that is not only pathetic but leading this country into a place that they are not going to like once they get there,and when it is all over with they most likely will not be around to see the results anyways.

[KJ5]

. Wake me up when this whole Russia business is over and the Democrats start trying to do something productive.

[canuck]

. Wake me up when this whole Russia business is over and the Democrats start trying to do something productive.

Nah... Keep on sleeping instead.

[GMan]

Bust, what you fail to recognize in reference to foreign media is that, when being cognizant of their bias you can still pick up information about the US. The fact that they are asking questions about the US political system that the mainstream media is not is indicative of how left biased the US media has become towards a socialist / globalist agenda.
While the US media is abuzz about a twitter fax paus, the foreign media is asking relevant questions about US dealings with globalist leaning powers. Why was the recent weapons deal to Saudia a mistake that was brokered by established government entities with President Trump the fiqurehead of the deal? Why is the media suddenly silent about the Trump / Russian narrative after Comey failed to deliver the goods?
Why was the US media silent when Hillary and her state department was meeting with the Russians brokering Uranium and oil dealings for powerful people in Washington that turn control over to foreign ownership?
Look further than CNN for answers.

[bust]

Bust, what you fail to recognize in reference to foreign media is that, when being cognizant of their bias you can still pick up information about the US…

While the US media is abuzz about a twitter fax paus, the foreign media is asking relevant questions about US dealings with globalist leaning powers.

GMan, I avidly read and listen to foreign media. They are some of my primary sources of information. Russia Today is nowhere among them. Most people recognize the huge difference between legitimate news organizations and instruments of state propaganda. Obviously not everyone.

Russia’s RT Network: Is It More BBC or K.G.B.?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/08/w...bc-or-kgb.html

US intel report devotes 7 pages to Russia Today's role in influencing election outcome
http://www.businessinsider.com/russi...-report-2017-1

We should have known better a long time ago. Here's an article from March 5, 2015:

Inside Putin’s On-Air Machine.
http://time.com/rt-putin/

"The global news network RT is the Russian government's main weapon in an intensifying information war with the West—and its top editor has a direct phone line to the Kremlin."

"With RT in particular, Putin has created an alternate reality on TV and online—RT generates more YouTube views than any other news channel in the world—that resolutely casts Russia as victim and the West as villain."

"For him this project is about much more than vanity in an era when digital media are, as he unabashedly put it in October, “a formidable weapon enabling the manipulation of public opinion.”"

"The aim of RT is to “inundate the viewer with theories about Western plots, to keep them dazed and confused,” says Peter Pomerantsev, a British expert on Russian propaganda."

"Central to the RT worldview is the conviction that Western plotting is behind most of the world’s political violence. The terrorist attacks of 9/11? “Probably an inside job,” ran the title of an RT series on the subject in 2009. The Boston Marathon bombing in 2013? “Preparation for new wars and martial law in America,” said British RT host Daniel Bushell on his now discontinued show The Truthseeker."

"In many Western countries, the network has found a loyal following among viewers—from both the left and the right—who are mistrustful of their own governments and wary of prevailing takes on world events."

But the people tuning in are dupes, wasting their time consuming, as Time put it, "richly endowed propaganda dressed up as journalism."

Mind you I don't waste my time with CNN either. There remain some other US media outlets that focus on much more important matters than Twitter faux pas, and tackle questions like the ones you complained are not covered.

[bust]

What is pathetic is people obsessing with Russia hacking,we do the exact same thing to them and everybody else in the world.

Richard, it's no surprise Russia hacks us. But it's a surprise how effective they were this time. We should be infuriated if it was enough to indirectly change the election result. And besides, the multiple investigations underway in Washington aren't just about Russians hacking, they're about whether members of the President's inner circle colluded with them -- to help orchestrate their desired election result and/or for their own financial gain. And that would be appalling, doncha think?