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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyinBrooklyn View Post
    ...Radically poor and uneducated immigrants of all colors tend to rise out of poverty both faster and in greater numbers than Americans living in poverty.
    They do overall, historically. We don't see the same generational welfare outcomes. This in part could be due to leveraging strong family networks.

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyinBrooklyn View Post
    In my opinion the social welfare state has made poverty comfortable enough so that there is not as strong an incentive to get out of it as there once was. Most welfare programs continue to exist for the mental satisfaction the program's advocates, not the true benefit of the recipients.
    For certain living on welfare is precarious, and needs to be a turnstyle as such, and the funding not infinite. And as funds must be spread further the 'satisfaction' factor is fading. As is the tax-payer base.

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyinBrooklyn View Post
    The Left has-mostly unintentionally- broken the cycle of upward mobility in urban black and rural white poor areas.
    Precisely! By jettisoning the man from the households [[to qualify for welfare benefits) the welfare state [[ergo replacing the head of the household) for example, helped destroy the black nuclear family.

    The stronger the intact family, the stronger the opportunity for upward mobility!
    Last edited by Zacha341; May-27-17 at 10:56 AM.

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