Hudson's Site Building Thread

**Scottathew** · November-22-19, 10:43 AM

Here are some pictures!

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**401don** · November-22-19, 10:55 AM

I remember when it was just all farmland - kind of miss the girder farm.

**EGrant** · November-26-19, 10:10 AM

Free Press article about the crane base; no new information: https://www.freep.com/story/money/bu...it/4300937002/

**angry_fred** · November-26-19, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by EGrant

Free Press article about the crane base; no new information: https://www.freep.com/story/money/bu...it/4300937002/

Keep in mind that their FAA permit starts December first, so the chances of going vertical prior to then are pretty much zero.

I would expect to see a line of trucks Monday morning with crane parts ready to go up

**Scottathew** · November-27-19, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by angry_fred

I would expect to see a line of trucks Monday morning with crane parts ready to go up

As well as a line of cement trucks to fill the base. It will be exciting to see it rise.

**Lapooty** · November-27-19, 01:52 PM

I wouldn't be so sure of it going up on Monday. The base of that crane needs to be filled with its rebar cage and once the concrete is poured I believe there needs to be plenty of time for the concrete the cure before the tower can go up.

Here's an interesting youtube video on all the steps necessary to erect a tower crane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC9m3sGRlnE

**Atticus** · November-28-19, 02:32 PM

In the most recent video, it looks like the foundation for the second crane is starting to get dug and prepared towards the north side of the pit.

**bigboat** · November-30-19, 06:53 AM

Great that we can see the placement of the base for a high rise crane. There is another base sitting in the NE corner of the pit. Now, they are getting to the point where steel girders have had to be ordered as I'm sure that would not be a stock item as every building would require something unique. By any chance has anyone seen an announcement just what the tower will look like, how tall, who is the possible hotel operator and does the new design deviate from what we were shown before.

**Nicholas D'Asti** · December-02-19, 11:32 PM

Are there any caissons that have to go in underneath the ramp? I feel like that's a big obstacle.

**EGrant** · December-03-19, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by Nicholas D'Asti

Are there any caissons that have to go in underneath the ramp? I feel like that's a big obstacle.

Those were some of the first caissons they drilled and poured last year. The ramp used to be in the tower section of the pit. I assume once all the caissons are drilled and the cranes are up, they'll start to remove the ramp.

**stasu1213** · December-04-19, 07:34 PM

How long did it take for the RenCen to start building vertical from the time the ground was broken?

**DetroitRises** · December-05-19, 02:04 PM

Interesting question, but apples and oranges comparison because RenCen wasn’t built over the foundation of a previous high rise [[Hudson’s building)

**angry_fred** · December-11-19, 11:59 PM

Looks like they've tarped over the tower crane base, which is presumably to keep concrete warm while it cures, but I never saw any trucks in there to pour it.

Any ideas why they might have done that?

**Scottathew** · December-12-19, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by angry_fred

Looks like they've tarped over the tower crane base, which is presumably to keep concrete warm while it cures, but I never saw any trucks in there to pour it.

Any ideas why they might have done that?

I would imagine soon. Before it was covered we noticed more rebar in it. Perhaps it's covered to allow workers to place the rest of the rebar without freezing their asses off.

The site is visible from the building I work in and we've been checking quite a bit through the day because we REALLY want to see the concrete pour for the crane!

**401don** · December-12-19, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by angry_fred

Looks like they've tarped over the tower crane base, which is presumably to keep concrete warm while it cures, but I never saw any trucks in there to pour it.

Any ideas why they might have done that?

Did they secure the tarp? Removing it should buy them a couple more months.

**angry_fred** · December-12-19, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by 401don

Did they secure the tarp? Removing it should buy them a couple more months.

LOL. I would imagine 48307 is correct that they're just taking their time on rebar and heating the ground around it. Tarping wet concrete in the winter is standard practice, so with structural stuff it's reasonable to expect that it's gonna need some pre heating before the pour

**angry_fred** · December-12-19, 11:15 AM

I hope so! I'm coming home for the holidays and it sure would be nice to see a crane!

**DetBill** · December-13-19, 01:15 PM

Its kinda humorous but you do realize that we all [[ myself included ) comment and guess on every little movement made on this development, [[ and others ) in the city... Thats exhausting..A friend commented that we look a little desperate . I mentioned we probably are.. If they end up building a 15 story building, gosh have we wasted our time. 😊😊

**stasu1213** · December-14-19, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by DetBill

Its kinda humorous but you do realize that we all [[ myself included ) comment and guess on every little movement made on this development, [[ and others ) in the city... Thats exhausting..A friend commented that we look a little desperate . I mentioned we probably are.. If they end up building a 15 story building, gosh have we wasted our time. 😊😊

Include me also. I guess that everyone is questionable about the process being that construction is being done one a project where the design has been changed.

**EGrant** · December-13-19, 01:43 PM

^^You should see some of the threads on SkyscraperCity's forum. The one for Tottenham's new stadium had people updating when a bolt was put in place. I think it's fun to track the progress.

**401don** · December-13-19, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by EGrant

^^You should see some of the threads on SkyscraperCity's forum. The one for Tottenham's new stadium had people updating when a bolt was put in place. I think it's fun to track the progress.

Doesn't work here in downtown Toronto where there are over 100 cranes currently. Heck here in the suburbs there are 12 condos of over 20 stories under construction just next to our mall.

**stasu1213** · December-21-19, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by 401don

Doesn't work here in downtown Toronto where there are over 100 cranes currently. Heck here in the suburbs there are 12 condos of over 20 stories under construction just next to our mall.

Toronto doesn’t have backwards thinking elected officials and city planners to throw a monkey wrench in any plans that will move Toronto in a advancing direction such as Detroit has

**Scottathew** · December-15-19, 12:31 PM

We're on a forum, about Detroit, in a thread about a specific construction project! This is our place to nerd out for the sake of the people that we know in the real life that aren't as interested!

**angry_fred** · December-15-19, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by 48307

We're on a forum, about Detroit, in a thread about a specific construction project! This is our place to nerd out for the sake of the people that we know in the real life that aren't as interested!

Nailed it!!!