Hudson's Site Building Thread

Nero · December-17-17, 07:13 AM

I Trumpet; "The Ruins have been restored!"

Woe, woe, woe to those who stay without remorse as the dead and the damned walk amongst the living on Earth. All around us we can smell the flower of their flesh decayed, yet we think to ourselves; "oh how nice a flower, but how putrid the smell. Let me take the flower's seeds to new lands, so that all lands can be infected by the honey of her misdeeds".

Evolution has a counterpart.

**mikeg19** · December-18-17, 08:05 AM

I'm hoping that they setup a live site camera like District Detroit did for the LCA construction. Anyone heard anything about them possibly doing that?

**stasu1213** · April-03-18, 06:20 PM

Will the 80 story building be built on top of the steel beams that are already protruding from the ground or would the beams be removed all together?

**401don** · April-03-18, 06:48 PM

The beams were only built to support 18-20 storeys so they will be ripped out along with the underground parking, to be replaced with new parking also.

**casscorridor65** · April-03-18, 08:06 PM

I'm working on the project. I'll snap some pictures over the next few years and post them. It's gong to be a fun project to be a part of.

**southen** · April-03-18, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by casscorridor65

I'm working on the project. I'll snap some pictures over the next few years and post them. It's gong to be a fun project to be a part of.

are they waiting to wrap on Shinola before kicking it into high gear?

**Jason** · April-03-18, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by casscorridor65

I'm working on the project. I'll snap some pictures over the next few years and post them. It's gong to be a fun project to be a part of.

Thanks!

**Detroitdave** · April-04-18, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by casscorridor65

I'm working on the project. I'll snap some pictures over the next few years and post them. It's gong to be a fun project to be a part of.

Thank you !

**dtowncitylover** · April-04-18, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by casscorridor65

I'm working on the project. I'll snap some pictures over the next few years and post them. It's gong to be a fun project to be a part of.

Please do so you can prove Bham wrong.

**Bham1982** · April-04-18, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by dtowncitylover

Please do so you can prove Bham wrong.

Yes, I'm eagerly awaiting the promised "80 floor building", which, so far, is nothing but talk.

Bring it on, ye downtown starry-eyed optimists.

I especially appreciate how the building gets 10 floors taller with every breathless "news story". At 80 floors, given modern day office heights, we're now looking at something taller than the Empire State Building, supposedly being built by a guy who has never built something outside of a taxpayer funded parking lot.

**MrMichigan** · April-04-18, 10:00 AM

58 [[above ground) floors actually.

Originally Posted by Bham1982

Yes, I'm eagerly awaiting the promised "80 floor building", which, so far, is nothing but talk.

Bring it on, ye downtown starry-eyed optimists.

**MSUguy** · April-04-18, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Bham1982

Yes, I'm eagerly awaiting the promised "80 floor building", which, so far, is nothing but talk.

Bring it on, ye downtown starry-eyed optimists.

I especially appreciate how the building gets 10 floors taller with every breathless "news story". At 80 floors, given modern day office heights, we're now looking at something taller than the Empire State Building, supposedly being built by a guy who has never built something outside of a taxpayer funded parking lot.

They're already workers on site. You're clueless

**EGrant** · April-04-18, 08:58 AM

This project is going to be nuts. Feels like just yesterday the "What's going on at the Red Wings Arena" thread just started and here we are, at the start of another massive project.

Noticed they tore down the structures that housed the stairwells and elevator shafts this week. Excited to see this site transform.

**MrChrome** · April-04-18, 11:34 AM

I can see the construction from my apartment and I can verify that they are out there working every day.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article...e-construction

The schedule, from Crains:

end of 2017-spring 2018: demolition, earth retention, temporary electrical installation
summer/fall 2018: demolition of some of the underground garage foundation
fall 2018: building tower foundations
spring 2019: parking deck foundations and structure
spring 2019: building the tower structure
summer 2019: building the block structure
fall 2019: mechanical, electrical, plumbing and fire protection system installation
fall 2019: site utilities
fall/winter 2020: enclosure of the block and tower
winter 2020: elevator and escalator installation
spring 2021: building interiors and finishes
summer 2022: final site work

**EGrant** · April-04-18, 11:57 AM

Bham, I understand your comments about the height being exaggerated, but do you really think this building is not going to be built? Barring an economic catastrophe, this is a done deal.

**SammyS** · April-04-18, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by EGrant

Barring an economic catastrophe, this is a done deal.

Both Empire State Building and Rockefeller Center were built during the worst recession in US history.

**Danny** · March-27-19, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by SammyS

Both Empire State Building and Rockefeller Center were built during the worst recession in US history.

Gilbert Tower Building in Gilberttown Detroit will be built on the population decline of Black Detro---I mean city residents in Michigan history.

**DetroitRises** · March-27-19, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Danny

Gilbert Tower Building in Gilberttown Detroit will be built on the population decline of Black Detro---I mean city residents in Michigan history.

Cities live, die, and are reborn. Those citizens chose to leave for jobs and a better life with no repleshment of new blood. Dan Gilbert is investing in Downtown because it’s where the youth want to be, or they’ll leave the state. Decline is happening throughout Michigan. There are others beyond Gilbert trying to rebuild Detroit as well. I for one, born in Detroit in1973, am happy to see a Detroit as a Phoenix , not dwell in parking lots, ashes and dust.

**stasu1213** · March-28-19, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Danny

Gilbert Tower Building in Gilberttown Detroit will be built on the population decline of Black Detro---I mean city residents in Michigan history.

Hey, wait a minute. The RenCen, was built as Michigan's tallest building during the white decline in the city. Now, The Hudson Tower is being built during black decline in the city

**rb336** · May-23-19, 11:14 AM

I have not yet seen a rendering of Detroit's skyline with that building. Anyone?

**Gistok** · April-04-18, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by stasu1213

Will the 80 story building be built on top of the steel beams that are already protruding from the ground or would the beams be removed all together?

Not 80 story.... 800 ft.

**emu steve** · April-04-18, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by Gistok

Not 80 story.... 800 ft.

Here is how to estimate the height of various types of buildings when only the number of stories is known.

And I assume the opposite, the number of stories when only the height is known [[as well as the type of building).

http://www.ctbuh.org/HighRiseInfo/Ta...B/Default.aspx

Regardless, I predict it will get built.

**ABetterDetroit** · April-04-18, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by Bham1982

Yes, I'm eagerly awaiting the promised "80 floor building", which, so far, is nothing but talk.

Bring it on, ye downtown starry-eyed optimists.

I especially appreciate how the building gets 10 floors taller with every breathless "news story". At 80 floors, given modern day office heights, we're now looking at something taller than the Empire State Building, supposedly being built by a guy who has never built something outside of a taxpayer funded parking lot.

WTF?

For someone who flies off the handle at Fake News that fits their own agenda you sure can spew out a load of it.

What the hell happened? Tough going on your “Nobody wants a condo at the Book Cadillac” anymore so it was time to make up some other negative Detroit lie and start peddling it?

You have one big problem with your latest fabrication.

A majority of the people on this board can go to the Hudson site and see with their own eyes what is happening there now.

**Dexlin** · April-05-18, 12:56 AM

No one has to predict anything. The building is 58 above-ground stories and approximately 800 feet and is very much under construction. The first phase is the most complicated. They are demolishing the existing underground garage, which first required the stablization of the tub walls, which is what they are doing, now. I've been told by someone working on this project that we should see above ground work taking place in May when they get ready to tear down the interior and "roof" of the garage.

MrChrome posted a helpful schedule that they so far have stuck to. Once the new garage is poured, we'll start seeing the actual foundations of the tower and neighboring building poured later this year.

Barton Malow, the Southfield-base general contractor, is very busy on this site. It's unfortunate that Bedrock and BM have been so quiet about the initial work, but that doesn't mean it's not occurring. They'd be wise for such a historic project to get the webcam on the site going and starting posting at least monthly updates of what they are doing.

**emu steve** · April-05-18, 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by Dexlin

No one has to predict anything.

B'ham, did you read that... Put it in your calendar for Summer, 2022.

Maybe, like the Little Caesars [[which had to pay off after UMBC beat UVa in the NCAAs), maybe B'ham will buy a Starbucks for each poster in this thread when the building opens.

Everyone can come to the Starbucks, and B'ham can say: A latte for everyone. On me.