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    Quote Originally Posted by 313WX View Post
    As the saying goes:

    "Don't have the player, hate the game."

    I suppose next, people are going to bitch about Bernie Sanders having IRAs or a 3rd house.

    But yet Mr Carson and Mrs DeVose have no business being where they are,is that how it works.

    Chavaz campaigned for the poor and redistribution of the wealth while his family became billionaires,every country and every city that has ever used that ideology ends up the exact same way.

    On a smaller scale locally was Kirkpatrick hurting for money while the citizens were well taken care of?

    You make money off of the poor and not the rich,the more poor that you have the less that you have to give them in order to look good and have thier support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    But yet Mr Carson and Mrs DeVose have no business being where they are,is that how it works.

    Chavaz campaigned for the poor and redistribution of the wealth while his family became billionaires,every country and every city that has ever used that ideology ends up the exact same way.

    On a smaller scale locally was Kirkpatrick hurting for money while the citizens were well taken care of?

    You make money off of the poor and not the rich,the more poor that you have the less that you have to give them in order to look good and have thier support.
    I'm not even sure what you're trying to get at with this response.

    1. Mrs. DeVos, along with her sociopathic brother, were born into a relatively obscene amount of wealth and never had to truly struggle a day in their lives or "pay their dues" like most people. Yet, unlike Michael Moore or Bernie Sanders, they actively engage in activities that work to harm those who aren't nearly as fortunate as them (from making a a quality education harder to obtain to mudering innocent people at the behest of "special interest groups").

    2. I'm not sure what to think about Dr. Carson. He may be a damn good surgeon and I applaud his accomplishments in medicine, but he seems to be completely inept when it comes to every other subject about life (at least that is what he has shown the country ever since he decided to get into Politics). He's also in the same boat as the Prince / DeVos family in that he's actively working to harm those who have been less fortunate than him with his political rhetoric, unlike Moore and Sanders. Wasn't this guy who now wants to "shrink the government" raised by a grandmother who depended on government assistance in order to support her family?

    3. The reason for the poor economic situation in Venezuela is due to low commodity prices (since their economy is primarily based around oil). Revisionist seem to forget that when oil prices were $100+ per barrel, Venezuela was doing quite well. But besides all of that, how is any of this even remotely comparable to concept of Social Democracy that we see today in Europe or Canada?

    4. As far as Kilpatrick, are you really trying to make a comparison to blatant political corruption?
    Last edited by 313WX; July-09-17 at 01:23 PM.

  3. #128

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    Quote Originally Posted by 313WX View Post
    I'm not even sure what you're trying to get at with this response.

    1. Mrs. DeVos, along with her sociopathic brother, were born into a relatively obscene amount of wealth and never had to truly struggle a day in their lives or "pay their dues" like most people. Yet, unlike Michael Moore or Bernie Sanders, they actively engage in activities that work to harm those who aren't nearly as fortunate as them (from making a a quality education harder to obtain to mudering innocent people at the behest of "special interest groups").

    2. I'm not sure what to think about Dr. Carson. He may be a damn good surgeon and I applaud his accomplishments in medicine, but he seems to be completely inept when it comes to every other subject about life (at least that is what he has shown the country ever since he decided to get into Politics). He's also in the same boat as the Prince / DeVos family in that he's actively working to harm those who have been less fortunate than him with his political rhetoric, unlike Moore and Sanders. Wasn't this guy who now wants to "shrink the government" raised by a grandmother who depended on government assistance in order to support her family?

    3. The reason for the poor economic situation in Venezuela is due to low commodity prices (since their economy is primarily based around oil). Revisionist seem to forget that when oil prices were $100+ per barrel, Venezuela was doing quite well. But besides all of that, how is any of this even remotely comparable to concept of Social Democracy that we see today in Europe or Canada?

    4. As far as Kilpatrick, are you really trying to make a comparison to blatant political corruption?
    You deserve an Oscar wrapped up in a big envelope with a Nobel check for this response. Lol.

  4. #129

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    The G-20

    Lets take the G-20 and hold it in the most radical far left anti capitalism city we can find,Hamburg.

    Hold my beer for a sec.

    Not sure if people are paying attention to what is going on over in Europe but things are going downhill very fast.

    Attempted assignation of the leader of France which is getting ready to implode,Germany is devided between immigration and refugee issiues,anti capitalism and fighting factions of Middle East and Somalia transplants.

    A lot of the smaller countries that had opened thier borders now have no go zones and even the ones that that took advantage of the open borders are now infighting,who thought that the ones that did not get along in thier own countries would all of the sudden get along after migrating.

    Those smaller countries do not have the resources to combat this and are losing ground fast.

    You can bet that as soon as the little physco can make a missle that can reach California he will make a statement because he can.

    Venezuela is a taste is what is coming world wide and we are turning a blind eye if we think it is not going to happen here on our soil,so we are left with the choice of either pull together as a country or stay divided and redraw the borders.
    You're absolutely right Richard. Europe as we knew it is over. It will be muslim in about three generations and the descendants of the people that built it will be "removed".

    It won't start to happen in America for the next 8 years but as soon as we return to electing pillocks like obama, clinton (the female one) and bush et al we will return to open borders and race downhill in short order and the deplorables will be "removed" unless they produce an inordinate amount of tax money and can be hated by the people that benefit from it.
    Last edited by coracle; July-09-17 at 04:12 PM.

  5. #130

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck View Post
    You deserve an Oscar wrapped up in a big envelope with a Nobel check for this response. Lol.

    So why do you guys hide behind the skirts of democracy that others have died to protect,go join your fellow comrades in Cuba and the like,o wait that would kind be like Bernie,talk the good talk until it comes time to actually live in ones beliefs.

    313 said the reason for their collapse was because of the economy,never even said anything about the government seizing private and corporate assets to distribute among the few in public office.Or the thousands of missing people that they did not agree with.You guys are perfectly comfortable with governments controls on every aspect in your lives.

    Must have no problem with that concept ,so why stick around in the states or Canada,go live the good life under dictatorships and be happy,the only thing one has to lose is thier freedoms,but I guess sense they were paid for by somebody else they mean nothing.

  6. #131

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck View Post
    You deserve an Oscar wrapped up in a big envelope with a Nobel check for this response. Lol.
    Maybe a Genie instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    So why do you guys hide behind the skirts of democracy that others have died to protect,go join your fellow comrades in Cuba and the like,o wait that would kind be like Bernie,talk the good talk until it comes time to actually live in ones beliefs.

    313 said the reason for their collapse was because of the economy,never even said anything about the government seizing private and corporate assets to distribute among the few in public office.Or the thousands of missing people that they did not agree with.You guys are perfectly comfortable with governments controls on every aspect in your lives.

    Must have no problem with that concept ,so why stick around in the states or Canada,go live the good life under dictatorships and be happy,the only thing one has to lose is thier freedoms,but I guess sense they were paid for by somebody else they mean nothing.
    Juste the high rate of imprisonment and the High crime rate is worth the price of admission to... ahem...

    You are not an apologist for what goes on in dictatorships. So how is it your President shakes Putin's hand suggesting a firewall to protect both countries from electoral fiddling?

    Take a break from Breitbart and the Enquirer Richard, your neural paths will clear up.

  9. #134

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck View Post
    Juste the high rate of imprisonment and the High crime rate is worth the price of admission to... ahem...

    You are not an apologist for what goes on in dictatorships. So how is it your President shakes Putin's hand suggesting a firewall to protect both countries from electoral fiddling?

    Take a break from Breitbart and the Enquirer Richard, your neural paths will clear up.
    I would agree that our money motivated criminal justice system needs a lot of work to say the least.

    I can actually say I have never even read a breitbart or enquirer article,so my neural paths are pretty clear.

    The one thing I can say pretty much with clarity is that most Americans and Canadians that embrace socialism and the dictatorships that follow have either never visited a country or experienced what it is actually like to live under a dictatorship.

    I would also say that it is highly likely that they would proably last less then 1 day because they are so used to being under the umbrella with a haveing your cake and eating it comfort.

    An American visiting China will have no less then 3 shadows assigned 24/7 every move you make is documented,every meal you eat is logged,there are places and cities that you will not be allowed to go or visit and if you take one picture without prior approval then you will be immediately expelled,then you also have the risk of you may just disappear and nobody will know what happened.

    There is a US taxpayer paid for refugee camp for ISIS women,these women found ISIS online and were promised free healthcare,a monthly salary for simply existing and free food and housing.

    So why is the US taxpayers now responsible for them?

    It does seem that they received a bit more then they bargained for when they signed up,you know the whole women are dogs aspect.

    I would encourage those that see utopia in the whole everything is provided for aspect to go online and join ISIS,Cuba,or any other socialist country of your choosing,it is easy to do and I am sure that they would love to have you.

    If you believe in your convictions that much and are prepared to give your life for those convictions then follow through with them,I did,I stood up for what I believed in and a system and a country that I believe in,if you are not willing to do that then all you are doing is blowing smoke and talking a game that you are not prepared to back up.


    President Trump shook Putins hand because that is politics,knowing full well that Putin was X KGB,I or anybody else with common sense would realize that President Trump is well aware of that fact and a handshake for the camera do not constitute a lets join forces to rule the world companion.
    Last edited by Richard; July-10-17 at 01:58 PM.

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    I have not read MAD magazine in probably over 35 years ��

    As it happens, Ivanka participated in a very important panel discussion: “Launch Event Women’s Entrepreneur Finance Initiative.”

    It is funny how the far left are having a panties in a bunch moment,personally I would rather have a woman seated there looking out for women's best interests then the president.

    Shes a woman that can relate and obviously has the presidents ear, So who better to be there.


    It is not like she revamped the entire school system lunch program based on the daily diet of a rabbit.

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    ^^
    Funny, but I'm old enough to remember all the Republicans 'getting their panties in a bunch' when Hillary took on National Health Care back in 1993. I believe the mantra was, "No one voted for her" !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bong-Man View Post
    ^^
    Funny, but I'm old enough to remember all the Republicans 'getting their panties in a bunch' when Hillary took on National Health Care back in 1993. I believe the mantra was, "No one voted for her" !
    Where's the damned "Like" button?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bong-Man View Post
    ^^
    Funny, but I'm old enough to remember all the Republicans 'getting their panties in a bunch' when Hillary took on National Health Care back in 1993. I believe the mantra was, "No one voted for her" !
    Funny, because I also remember Obamacare being a right-wing health care bill straight out of the Heritage Foundation that Republicans defended tooth and nail while Democrats pushed for Universal Health Care.

    Yet, fast forward to the 2010s and you have the Democrats who implemented the right-wing healthcare bill (that no one is fond of and people only tolerate) and are defending it tooth-and-nail, including Hillary who wouldn't even give her support for a Public Option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 313WX View Post
    Funny, because I also remember Obamacare being a right-wing health care bill straight out of the Heritage Foundation that Republicans defended tooth and nail while Democrats pushed for Universal Health Care.
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    .Option.
    The Heritage plan was limited to Catastrophic coverage not a comprehensive healthcare plan. Also had tax breaks wrapped up in it for for individuals. So not like A.C.A. which wants to be single payer.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot.../#7cddc6a56187

    Good thing it lacked support back then otherwise the economy would have tanked sooner.
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    The recent unusual flood of three posts of the same image reveals the desperate (x3!) overcompensation for:


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    [QUOTE=Jimaz;528864]The recent unusual flood of three posts of the same image reveals the desperate (x3!) [quote]

    Well, I guess we could spend our time doing something petty,like going around and correcting everybody's spelling errors,or maybe start 3 different threads and add over 6000 posts of talking to ourselves.

    Have you ever thought about getting a puppy or kitten?

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    Post 140. (Trump demonstrating what we should have been doing for the last 20 years)
    A bunch of losers mulling round wondering who's going to give them their "pocket money" now "the man" has wised up to our pillocks who sunk us deeper into dept to finance their defenses while they spent their own money on socialized programs for their "needy", immigrants and migrants.

    I see Turkey is going to pull out of the Paris Accord because they are not going to get the compensation "promised by Paris" to pay for it. Wonder where Paris was going to get the compensation money from to pass on?
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    Ah, "news" from Colbert. He is always so funny in his snide arrogant way. Does anyone know who the nine men are behind Trump that Trump presumably is supposed to be having such a good time with? For all we know, Trump might be the first G-20 leader to sit down for a meeting. Let's pretend the 9 guys behind Trump are G-20 leaders. If Trump had to take in refugees that Obama/SOS Clinton created or make good Al Gore's stake in carbon futures trading CO2 offsets to be popular with the globalist crowd there, its better that he didn't sell out the US to be popular there.

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    It's shocking that, at this point, people are still defending Trump as being intelligent, tactical, or logical. He thanks you for his ever-clean boots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    It is not like she revamped the entire school system lunch program based on the daily diet of a rabbit.
    You don't seem to be aware that this speaks greater volumes about you than it does Michelle Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimaz View Post
    Trump has a dangerous disability - George F. Will interview MSNBC

    George Will's quiet renunciation of his long-time Republican Party membership was a tipping point.

    He now recommends that the public actively "quarantine this presidency."
    Is sanity contagious?:

    Joe Scarborough Explains Why He's Done With The GOP.
    And you have to ask yourself: What exactly is the Republican Party willing to do? How far are they willing to go? How much of this country and our values are they willing to sell out?...

    I am a Republican but I'm not going to be a Republican anymore. [applause]
    Last edited by Jimaz; July-12-17 at 09:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    The Heritage plan was limited to Catastrophic coverage not a comprehensive healthcare plan. Also had tax breaks wrapped up in it for for individuals. So not like A.C.A. which wants to be single payer.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot.../#7cddc6a56187

    Good thing it lacked support back then otherwise the economy would have tanked sooner.
    Do you have a link to back up this claim about "wrapped up tax breaks?"

    In any event, my point is Obamacare is a right-wing health care bill and its main features (vouchers, individual mandates, ban on denying customers based on pre-existing health conditions, purchasing pools, etc.) are identical to the Heritage Foundation's plan.

    If anything, Obamacare's slightly more evil than the Heritage Foundation's plan in that it:

    1. Does nothing to address medical malpractice abuse (Heritage's plan did), which is IMO a huge driver behind the rapidly increasing medical costs we're experiencing.

    2. Forces people (who are perfectly healthy) to buy a bunch of health care benefits they can't afford and likely won't need at whatever price the health insurance companies wants to charge them.

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    Now Trump Wants A "See-Through" Wall.

    Hmmm. If that wall is soooo transparent that it's indistinguishable from no wall at all, then who could possibly know whether the wall is not there?

    If it's not there, how much did it cost? Nothing! How much did Mexico pay for the wall? Nothing!

    Magically, Mexico paid for the entire cost of the wall!

    Quote Originally Posted by NOTSteve View Post
    ♪That's the way we can get things done & that's how i do it.♪
    ♪It's easy & simple cuz you know what to do.♪
    (Forgive me. I'm trying to channel Trump's other neuron because the first one was, um, er, unintelligible.)
    Last edited by Jimaz; July-15-17 at 11:50 PM.

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    Had a women tell me that she could get in home therapy for her MS and how happy she was with that. Almost in the same sentence she said how happy she was with Donald Trump in office.
    You can't reap Obamacare while heralding the man who plans to rape health care as we know it, for the rich 1% who don't need more money to sit on.
    I didn't plan to tell her. I don't go there.

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    I like how people freak out over words like,plans on,alleged,un-named source,may have,could have etc.

    It reminds me of the Transporter movie where the driver is taking the young boy to the doctor,he was freaking out about a shot from the doctor.

    Driver told him,you do not even know if you are getting the shot,so why worry about it.

    How can people say/freak out over what is in a health care bill when it has not even been presented yet?

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