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    This op-ed is worth one of your free monthly articles at the NY Times:

    They Were Bad. He May Be Worse.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/20/o...s-history.html

    "The best way to evaluate President Trump is to compare him not with the great presidents but with the worst."
    Last edited by bust; January-21-18 at 06:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bust View Post
    The Guardian is not only one of the most respected newspapers in the UK, also Europe.

    Maybe you confused it with Murdoch's The Sun?
    Or The Daily Mail?
    The Gaurdian established in the 1800s as an independent newpaper and run by a trust.

    They use independent reporting and submitters which have a tendency to lean left.

    Some like myself prefer their news being presented unbiased.

    Which also brings me to Major Garrett with CBSN,when the whole election fiasco started he was everything against Trump,he now has turned 180 degrees and in his reporting he comments on both sides of the issiue giving an unbiased opinion.

    I have respect for that because to me it is not the medias job to manipulate the public,they should all be presenting just the facts on both sides.

    Not everybody has the time to delve into the realm of everything life and in a short timespan they should not be subject to one sided decision making views.

    As we can see the media has always been a powerful tool,some may enjoy that aspect when it works in their favor,but keep in mind that can also turn on one just as fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bust View Post
    This op-ed is worth one of your free monthly articles at the NY Times:

    They Were Bad. He May Be Worse.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/20/o...s-history.html

    "The best way to evaluate President Trump is to compare him not with the great presidents but with the worst."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honky Tonk View Post
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    Sorry; fixed it!

    Here it is again, since I can't fix yours, to avoid further confusion:

    They Were Bad. He May Be Worse.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/20/o...s-history.html

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    Some conservative websites claim that Dr. Bandy Lee [[jimaz' post #698) lost her medical license in 2015. That is mostly false. Dr. Lee gave up medical licenses in CA and CT but retains her NY medical license. She teaches at Yale. Keywords for Dr. Lee: encouraging asylum attorneys, anti-violence, UN. She suggests that Trump's mentions of Muslim violence encourages violence. Her armchair assessment of Donald Trump violates American Psychiatric Association guidelines but, she says, she felt compelled to speak out.

    "The Goldwater Rule embodies these concepts and makes it unethical for a psychiatrist to render a professional opinion to the media about a public figure unless the psychiatrist has examined the person and has proper authorization to provide the statement," said APA CEO and Medical Director Saul Levin, M.D., M.P.A. "APA stands behind this rule."
    Last edited by oladub; January-21-18 at 08:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    but, she says, she felt compelled to speak out.

    Of course she feels "compelled", a grand opportunity to get her name out there and sell her book. Maybe if she sells enough copies, she won't have to listen to these wackos and their stupid problems day in and day out.
    Last edited by Honky Tonk; January-21-18 at 09:52 AM.

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    Well Monday was Donald and Melania's wedding anniversary, but you might not have known since it wasn't publicly acknowledged in any way. Nor was it privately acknowledged it seems, as the President's daily schedule for that day did not have any private time blocked off to celebrate it. Also interesting, Melania had been planning for months on accompanying her husband to Davos for the economic summit there, but recently cancelled that trip due to "scheduling issues." The White House "declined comment" on whether Donald and Melania did anything to celebrate their anniversary.

    On January 20, Melania tweeted a photo from Inauguration day on the anniversary of her first year as First Lady. Was it a photo of her and her husband, the President? Did she even mention him? No, it was a photo of her and her Marine escort.

    During their most recent trip to Mar-a-Lago two weeks ago [[immediately after the Stormy Daniels story broke), Trump hosted two dinners for his guests...his wife wasn't at any of them. Even though she was present at the resort. They also maintain separate bedrooms at the White House.

    Hmmm, I'm thinking some NYC divorce attorney is going to find him or herself landing a golden goose come January 21, 2021. That is, if she doesn't get fed up with the daily humiliation before that point and we end up seeing the first White House divorce in American history.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/23/polit...ary/index.html

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    Well that is getting desperate,speculation becomes fact?
    Who was there in their private time and filmed it?

    She has supporters and non supporters just like every other First Lady in history,maybe she needs to join the circle of old ladies and men sitting around in a circle gossiping all day.

    You say 2021 but there is always the possibility of it extending to 2025,if we are lucky.
    Last edited by Richard; January-25-18 at 12:29 PM.

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    Trump rebuffs Congress and ignores the law, refuses to implement sanctions against Russia despite universal bipartisan support for sanctions.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.efcf95c5c146

    The "Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act" was passed by Congress last year and was designed to punish Russia for its interference in the 2016 election, along with its military action in Ukraine and general human rights abuses.

    The bill received near-total bipartisan support in Congress, passing 98-2 in the Senate and 419-3 in the House. Trump reluctantly signed it into law because he had no choice, the bill had well in excess of the 2/3rd majority in both houses needed to override a Presidential veto.

    According to the law, the deadline for the Executive Branch to implement the sanctions was Monday, however Trump refused to do so, with spokespeople claiming that the White House "didn't see the need" for it.

    This refusal coincided with CIA Director Mike Pompeo [[a former Republican Congressman and Trump's handpicked choice to run the CIA) stating that he believes the Russians will attempt to interfere in the 2018 elections:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42864372

    Trump, to this day, remains convinced that there was no Russian meddling in the 2016 election despite the universal consensus by everyone [[including Republicans) that there was.

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    Democrats outdid themselves at Trump's SOTU speech. Attempting to be anti-Trump, Democrats came off seeming anti-American. When Trump said he wanted to work with Democrats, Pelosi looked like she bit into a lemon. When Trump mentioned the lowest black employment in 47 years and the lowest Hispanic unemployment ever, Democrats looked disgusted. When “USA” was chanted, Benedict Arnold Gutierrez took off. It was the first time I’ve seen an exorcism. Joy Reid tweeted, ““Church … family … police … military … the national anthem … Trump trying to call on all the tropes of 1950s-era nationalism. The goal of this speech appears to be to force the normalization of Trump on the terms of the bygone era his supporters are nostalgic for.”

    Democrats must have worn black in solidarity with their constituents who wear basic black burkhas, designer antifa costumes, aging goths, and scariest of all, covens of family court lawyers gathered around cauldrons in between tearing up families. In contrast, Republicans cheered lower unemployment , the destruction of ISIS, and wore crisp red, white, and blue. Melania showed up looking like an angel. What a contrast to Democratic women. It’s no wonder that 75% of Americans who watched Trump’s speech approved of it.
    Last edited by oladub; January-31-18 at 08:22 PM.

  12. #712

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    This is past becoming a total cluster-frig mess in the effort to remove Donald Trump from office. Then we have Pence...

    Case in point, Pelosi's coming unhinged and harder to defend. She's wearing out many dems and even some hard-core leftists wishing she'd pump them brakes on that self-loathing anti-Trump car she driving!

    Trump really has to resign. The price is getting higher and higher.
    Last edited by Zacha341; January-31-18 at 09:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    This is past becoming a total cluster-frig mess in the effort to remove Donald Trump from office. Then we have Pence...

    Case in point, Pelosi's coming unhinged and harder to defend. She's wearing out many dems and even some hard-core leftists wishing she'd pump them brakes on that self-loathing anti-Trump car she driving!

    Trump really has to resign. The price is getting higher and higher.

    Wait until they see the price if he is forced to resign,then they will be wishing for him back,but that is thier agenda,to split this country apart,any means necessary,they already make it clear they careless about the country and what it stands for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    Trump rebuffs Congress and ignores the law, refuses to implement sanctions against Russia despite universal bipartisan support for sanctions.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.efcf95c5c146

    The "Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act" was passed by Congress last year and was designed to punish Russia for its interference in the 2016 election, along with its military action in Ukraine and general human rights abuses.

    The bill received near-total bipartisan support in Congress, passing 98-2 in the Senate and 419-3 in the House. Trump reluctantly signed it into law because he had no choice, the bill had well in excess of the 2/3rd majority in both houses needed to override a Presidential veto.

    According to the law, the deadline for the Executive Branch to implement the sanctions was Monday, however Trump refused to do so, with spokespeople claiming that the White House "didn't see the need" for it.

    This refusal coincided with CIA Director Mike Pompeo [[a former Republican Congressman and Trump's handpicked choice to run the CIA) stating that he believes the Russians will attempt to interfere in the 2018 elections:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42864372

    Trump, to this day, remains convinced that there was no Russian meddling in the 2016 election despite the universal consensus by everyone [[including Republicans) that there was.
    Some really like to twist words around to meet their agenda,he has repeatedly stated there was no Russian collusion,remember when you guys were crying minutes after the election that he colluded with the Russians in order to win.

    There is a big difference between collusion and Russian intervention,which was already exposed during the previous administration.

    But you already know that,you are not stupid,so why the blantant mis statements?

    It is like somebody desperately grabbing for the rope while falling off of the cliff.

    A high school student with 3 days expirence can stand up and say the Russians will try to influence the 2018 elections.

    I guess this is the first election that most have been involved in,every country in the world seeks to influence others elections,we do it all the time in craphole countries and it works very well in gaining support to over throw currant governments.

    Geee sounds familiar? No ? Pick up any newspaper or watch the news it is easy to see how it works and how it is easy to manipulate people.
    Last edited by Richard; January-31-18 at 11:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    There is a big difference between collusion and Russian intervention,which was already exposed during the previous administration.
    Trump has refused to admit that the Russians even interfered in the election. Collusion issues aside, Trump has repeatedly and steadfastly refused to acknowledge that Russia did anything wrong in the election. You know, it is possible for him to maintain that there was no collusion but admit that the Russians meddled in our democracy, but he can't even do that. It destroys any credibility he has on the issue when he openly ignores reality.

    So when POTUS refuses to acknowledge reality [[his own handpicked CIA Director even admits that Russia interfered) and then refuses to implement punitive sanctions against Russia [[passed in a 517-5 vote by Congress) that are mandated by law, what are we supposed to say about that? Let's ignore any accusations of collusion for a moment, WHY is Trump bending over backwards to protect Putin? To the point where Trump openly denies reality and is ignoring the law and ignoring Congress? What's the explanation for this? 517 to 5 vote in Congress, you will never see that kind of universal bipartisan agreement on anything, Trump is the only one who still thinks the Russians didn't do anything wrong. It's curious to say the least. If there was no collusion, then maybe we need to ask just how much money the Trump Family has borrowed from Russia over the last two decades and how that might be influencing Trump's actions today.

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    aj, Whether or not Obama and other presidents followed the Constitution, whether or not the Russian sanctions are incredibly stupid and self-destructive to the US, the bill is a revival of Joe McCarthy sentiment, and/or the US is being hypocritical by sanctioning Russia after overthrowing so many other countries and tapping Merkel's phone. Trump should observe his constitutional duty and let the chips fall where they will. My heroes in opposing this stupidity are the "5 US lawmakers who voted against the bill: 4 libertarians and 1 progressive independent.Those lawmakers were US Reps. Justin Amash [[R-Mich.), Thomas Massie [[R-Ky.), John Duncan Jr. [[R-Tenn.), and US Sens. Rand Paul[[R-Ky.) and Bernie Sanders [[I-Vt.)" According to an article by The Hill, Trump would have to impose Obama the Idiot's executive order sanctions on Russia but Trump is not required to impose new sanctions of his own on Russia.
    Some unrelated polling news. 75% of Americans who listened to Trump's speech approved. Even 43% of Democrats who listened approved. More: According to a Monmouth Poll, Trump has gone up 10% in the last month and the generic Congressional 15% preference Democrats had is now only 2%. Maybe Russiagate isn't selling so well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post

    Some unrelated polling news. 75% of Americans who listened to Trump's speech approved. Even 43% of Democrats who listened approved. More: According to a Monmouth Poll, Trump has gone up 10% in the last month and the generic Congressional 15% preference Democrats had is now only 2%. Maybe Russiagate isn't selling so well.
    Ahhhh, so polls are bullshit and "fake news"... until you can cherry pick one out of a thousand that has a little bit of good news for you, then it's legitimate. I see how that hypocrisy works now.

    Since you're so open to the polls now, let's take a look at what all the polls say. Take your pick from literally any of the polls below, any one you want:

    http://www.pollingreport.com/trump_ad.htm

    As for one of the five votes against the legislation [[Bernie Sanders), Sanders stated that he voted against the bill not because he thinks Russia shouldn't be sanctioned, but because the bill also added new sanctions on Iran and he worried that those would endanger the U.S.-Iranian nuclear agreement.

    But it's all good oladub. With each and every day, we get more and more information to act on. For example, we learned this week that that Russia's top spy chief [[equivalent to the head of the American CIA) visited Washington in December and met with top Trump Admin officials despite the fact that he is on a U.S. sanctions blacklist for his involvement in Russia's seizure of Crimea and its military invasion of Eastern Ukraine.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/01/31/582059134/russian-spy-chief-reportedly-met-with-u-s-intelligence-officials-despite-sanction

    We also learned that Dutch Intelligence hacked the Moscow-based Russian hacking conglomerate known as "Cozy Bear", who had interfered in the 2016 U.S. election and is believed to be behind the hacking of the DNC. As such, the Dutch were able to provide direct proof to the FBI and CIA of Russian hacking efforts during the U.S. Presidential election.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...-idUSKBN1FE34W

    And I already linked to a story in a previous post about how Trump's CIA Chief, Mike Pompeo, said that he believes Russia is gearing up to interfere in the 2018 election.

    Tune in next week for yet more and more proof that you will simply dismiss and ignore. Putin needs you, oladub! Keep fighting the good fight.

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    Joe McCarthy's spirit, neocons, and the deep state need you aj. Unlike you, I proudly support detente and oppose expanding the cold war and interventionist policies. Unlike you, I assume Russia, China, Iran, the NSA, geeks in their mothers' basements, and others to be hacking. Even the Untied States' government hacks other countries and its own citizens. I don't know how you manage to keep up the faux outrage under the circumstances. The answer is better computer security at our end rather than pretending the US doesn't do its own share of spying. I guess you didn't like the results found in New York Magazine's link to the Monmouth poll taken January 28-30 before Trump's SOTU speech. After all, how could this be? Most of the polls told us Hillary had a lock on the presidency. You should have clarified whether you thought New York Magazine, the Monmouth poll, or both were "fake news". Thank you though for serving as Bernie Sander's spokesperson. I remain grateful Sanders stood up and voted against this travesty. My vote for Sanders in the primary to defeat neocon babe Hillary is paying off.
    Last edited by oladub; February-01-18 at 02:42 PM.

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    ^ that's what I was doing while watching the Dems playing with their phones and Pelosi looking like she was constipated the whole time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    ^ that's what I was doing while watching the Dems playing with their phones and Pelosi looking like she was constipated the whole time.
    oh, very similar to what the Republicans did to Obama during a joint session and a goon named Joe Wilson yells "you lie".
    Last edited by Maof; February-01-18 at 09:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    oh, very similar to what the Republicans did to Obama during a joint session and a goon named Joe Wilson yells "you lie".
    Joint session and SOTU are two different things,but I agree,he was an idiot for doing what he did.

    Respect is shown to the building for what it stands for and who it represents,it does not matter who is standing behind the podium.

    That building represents us,we the people and when disrespect is shown within its walls it is also disrespectful to us,no matter what side one leans to.

    There were some Dems that stood up and clapped and showed their support on some important issues,but were given the evil eye by her.

    I am not a party person,independent,if we could take those Dems that stood up and some of the republicans that also care about this country and put them together,maybe we can do some good in this country.

    I just think the attitude of I do not like the guy so I protest is a bit far stretched.

    At the end of the day we really know who suffers and pays the price and it is not the politicians.

    President Trump is a republican and I support him,Mayor Duggan is a democrat and I also support him,whoever I feel is best for the job and country is who I will stand by.

    All the tweets and rhetoric is nothing but filling space,just as all of the impeach,Russians bla blah blah.

    Obsessing on it does not solve the real issues,or maybe it makes for a good distraction while the issues are being decided in the background,which kinda defeats the whole system of getting involved.

    They say 57% of Americans would be hard pressed to come up with $1000 cash in an emergency,I think we should be dealing with that aspect instead of freaking out over a tweet.

    Tweets do not pay the bills or put food on the table and that's what most Americans,that I know anyways,are more concerned about.

    Priorities.

    I think half the time he does his tweets it is just to rock the boat and get people riled up.

    But you can send him an email and get a response,sometimes personally,which was not the case in the previous administration.
    Last edited by Richard; February-01-18 at 10:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    What I don't understand about Trump is why he chooses to lie about things that are so very easily fact checked and can be conclusively 100% proven to be wrong. Like we don't have ratings data from previous SOTU addresses?

    In reality, it was the sixth-most watched SOTU address in history. Clinton got higher ratings in 1994 and 1998, GWB got higher ratings in 2002 and 2003, and Obama got higher ratings in 2010.

    The highest ratings ever for a SOTU were George W Bush in 2002, who drew 62 million viewers. That's 17 million more than Trump's "most watched SOTU in history."

    Makes you wonder why some people here still think this guy has any credibility when he lies so blatantly, so casually, and so incredibly often.

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    Maybe it's because finding a politician that does not stretch the truth is like finding a needle in a haystack.

    People act like he is the first president in the history of the world to do half of the things he does.

    Did you keep your doctor?

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    Stock market has its worst day in 10 years, the DJIA has plummeted almost 1200 points today [[4.6% of its total value) after plummeting over 650 points on Friday.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/business-42942921

    This essentially wiped out two full months worth of stock gains in just two days of trading. Coincidentally, this came on the same day that Jerome Powell was sworn in as the new Chairman of the Federal Reserve, having been appointed by Donald Trump to replace Janet Yellen [[who oversaw four straight years of sustained market growth) after deciding not to reappoint her to another term as Fed Chair.

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