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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimaz View Post

    That Time Everyone Tried To Defend Injecting Bleach - SOME MORE NEWS
    Ahh, another idiot liar making videos of himself from his mom's basement.

    The pres never said "bleach".

    And UV light has been used since the 1940's to kill viruses,. though until now the blood has had to be circulated outside the body and though the lights.

    Those with I.Q.s over 70 had presumed the president was party to some briefings where this sort of thing was being discussed,.. and simply didn't understand all the details of what was being discussed, but he was excited and wanted to share his excitement.

    He should have kept that to himself of course, but this pres speaks off the cuff. This would not have happened to a terrible public speaker like president Obama, who only read other people's words off a teleprompter.
    Last edited by Bigdd; August-02-20 at 01:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdd View Post
    We can forever ignore any media types that say "Bleach",.. because the president never said that.


    Those people that spend every waking moment trying to undermine our president and our country as part of the propaganda arm of the DNC need to be cancelled.
    Correct. He said disinfectant which is pretty much the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    Correct. He said disinfectant which is pretty much the same thing.
    Um, NO.

    It's called lying.

    Rubbing alcohol is a disinfectant. How come they didn't lie and say that he said rubbing alcohol? Why did they use bleach as their lie? And even the name-brand Clorox in their lie?

    It's because they have NO intention of accurately informing you of the news. Their GOAL is to lie, and create hatred and division. Then they have the nerve to turn around and blame the president for creating division.

    The media is the lying propaganda arm of the DNC,.. not actual news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdd View Post
    Um, NO.

    It's called lying.

    Rubbing alcohol is a disinfectant. How come they didn't lie and say that he said rubbing alcohol? Why did they use bleach as their lie? And even the name-brand Clorox in their lie?

    It's because they are the lying propaganda arm of the DNC and not actual news outlets. CNN, CSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC really ARE fake news.

    If you see it on their channels,.. you can be pretty much certain it's not true. Either it willbe a flat-out lie,.. or the way they say it will give you the wrong impression.

    FOX is leftists also. There are only 2 Republican presenters of the 15 or whatever on the channel. Most are Dems [[Chris Wallace, Bret Bair, Juan Williams, Tucker Carlson, etc are all registered Dems) . And they say the same lies,..... just with a conservative sounding spin.
    Um what part of the video did you miss? Want me to post it here again? I'm not going to sit here an argue with you the difference between rubbing alcohol and bleach...LMAO.
    Last edited by Maof; August-04-20 at 06:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    Correct. He said disinfectant which is pretty much the same thing.
    Yes,please post the video where he recommends people to inject themselves with anything.

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    Great insight to Trumps golf game. You can draw some parallels to what we have witnessed the last 4 years as president.

    https://golf.com/lifestyle/celebriti...g-tiger-woods/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Yes,please post the video where he recommends people to inject themselves with anything.
    Seriously, how much idiotic shit does Trump have to say/do before you stop blindly following the moron? and is your memory REALLY that short, or do you just block out any facts that make your messiah look bad [[which would be, essentially, ANY fact)?

    https://youtu.be/33QdTOyXz3w
    Last edited by rb336; August-03-20 at 11:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rb336 View Post
    Seriously, how much idiotic shit does Trump have to say/do before you stop blindly following the moron? and is your memory REALLY that short, or do you just block out any facts that make your messiah look bad [[which would be, essentially, ANY fact)?

    https://youtu.be/33QdTOyXz3w

    I've posted it several times as well as others. Even posted the video of Birx yesterday looking horrified and squirming at the suggestion. Hell, all he had to do is look it up for himself. But, ya know, we have a few spin doctors here.
    Last edited by Maof; August-04-20 at 06:30 AM.

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    It's often instructive to reconsider who stands to benefit from reducing the signal-to-noise ratio in public discourse. How and why that would be done also helps us understand the phenomenon.

    One way to reduce SNR is to add more noise, especially incendiary noise that elicits responses from others which ultimately amplifies the noise.

    We would all benefit from considering these things occasionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rb336 View Post
    Seriously, how much idiotic shit does Trump have to say/do before you stop blindly following the moron? and is your memory REALLY that short, or do you just block out any facts that make your messiah look bad [[which would be, essentially, ANY fact)?

    https://youtu.be/33QdTOyXz3w
    rb336, Take a Dump has a "Jim Jones" like spell cast upon his base. Hope they don't meet the same fate as his flockers did. Such a shame too....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rb336 View Post
    Seriously, how much idiotic shit does Trump have to say/do before you stop blindly following the moron? and is your memory REALLY that short, or do you just block out any facts that make your messiah look bad [[which would be, essentially, ANY fact)?

    https://youtu.be/33QdTOyXz3w
    PLEASE WATCH THAT VIDEO YOURSELF,.. AND POINT OUT ANYTIME HE SUGGESTS INJECTING BLEACH? OR ANYTHING ELSE FOR THAT MATTER?

    Please stop making up lies to defame our nations president.

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    No one can defend something that Trump didn't say.


    The title of the video eliciting responses is, That Time Everyone Tried To Defend Injecting Bleach. Either Trump suggested injecting bleach or he didn't. So far, I haven't seen evidence that Trump suggested injecting bleach. Maybe some people are just invested in believing that Trump suggested injecting bleach.

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    HE SAID DISINFECTANT FOR THE 10TH TIME. BLEACH, DISINFECTANT DOESN'T MATTER, HE'S NOT A SCIENTIST AND SHOULD NOT BE THROWING OUT SUCH INSANE SUGGESTIONS......LMAO. In case you're hard of hearing from the video that has been posted multiple times, here's the full transcript............

    "And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that. So you're going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me, so we'll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it goes in one minute, that's pretty powerful."
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...nscript-2020-4
    Last edited by Maof; August-03-20 at 05:33 PM.

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    ^^^ Ah... yes, setting aside a direct reference to bottled floor-mopping 'bleach', the careless commentary, fragmented sentences and words thrown together lead to this.

    Sigh.

    The ambiguity, misunderstanding, misunderstanding of intent or intended distortions, the debate, the defending, etc......

    And to think it could have all be avoided.
    Last edited by Zacha341; August-03-20 at 06:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    ...The title of the video eliciting responses is, That Time Everyone Tried To Defend Injecting Bleach....
    ... which is not the same as asserting that Trump said "bleach."

    Trump said:
    And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning.
    To which specific disinfectant was Trump referring?

    Moments earlier Bill Bryan [[DHS) said, which was mentioned in the video,
    We’re also testing disinfectants readily available. We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus, specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids. And I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes; isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds,...
    In that larger context, to argue that he didn't mean bleach or isopropyl alcohol because he said literally "disinfectant" seems a bit petty. Perhaps he meant some other disinfectant that was mentioned, what, three, four, five weeks ago? How far do we need to stretch this charade to legitimize the clown?

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    What is obvious about the ‘disinfectant, bleach’ rambling is everyone saw it repeatedly, in context, and at that point in time the president took a beating in the approval rating that he has not recovered from.

    Anyone can argue that he ‘did’ or ‘did not’ as much as they want but the fact remains that he looked and sounded like a complete idiot and lost a substantial amount of people in the middle exactly then.

    As always the middle is where elections are lost and won. 92 days to go. Plenty of time for God knows what. Both candidates are highly qualified at opening mouth and inserting foot.

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    ^^^ Well stated ABD! And you don't have to be a Trump rabid advocate or detractor to see that this particular 'rambling' episode was not his best moment.
    Last edited by Zacha341; August-03-20 at 07:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    HE SAID DISINFECTANT FOR THE 10TH TIME. BLEACH, DISINFECTANT DOESN'T MATTER, HE'S NOT A SCIENTIST AND SHOULD NOT BE THROWING OUT SUCH INSANE SUGGESTIONS......LMAO. In case you're hard of hearing from the video that has been posted multiple times, here's the full transcript............

    "And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that. So you're going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me, so we'll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it goes in one minute, that's pretty powerful."
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...nscript-2020-4
    This is on point. He's the freakin POTUS. He shouldn't even mildly suggest for his people whom he's suppose to govern and lead, to ingest ANYTHING !! It's amazing to me how some people will defend this psycho to their graves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    ^^^ Well stated ABD! And you don't have to be a Trump rabid advocate or detractor to see that this particular 'rambling' episode was not his best moment.
    so if one is a Trump supporter they are defined as a rabid advocate but if not they are just a detractor.

    Got it.

    Reminds me of when somebody here posted that they wanted to smack the smirk off of the kids face after listening to the fake narrative and making a decision.

    The same kid that won a $250 million dollar defamation lawsuit against CNN and 15 lawsuits are also pending against other news agencies and individuals.

    Everybody's twist is okay then they come up with all kinds of names against those who they do not agree with.

    Everything the guy has said for the last 3.5 years has been attacked then interpreted into a narrative.

    But yet every time that narrative has been taken to task it turns into a complete failure,but it is always Trump and those who support him are the ones with the screwed up views.

    People ever think that maybe after failure after failure it is time to maybe rethink on how they view things instead of blaming everybody else?

    All this compulsive obsession with every word he utters is a little demented at times even more so because it comes from a side of proven failures.

    I guess it is understandable that people cannot stand that he has

    Leveled the playing field with fair trade deals.
    Removed minimum mandatory sentencing.
    Sent millions to democratic controlled cities in order to provide skills training and advanced skills training.


    • Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
    • Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
    • Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
    • Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
    • Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
    • Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
    • Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
    • The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
    • 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
    • Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
    • Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
    • As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
    • Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
    • Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
    • Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
    • Record number of regulations eliminated.
    • Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
    • Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
    • My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
    • Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
    • We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
    • Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
    • Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
    • We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
    • Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
    • Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
    • United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
    • Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
    • Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
    • Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
    • NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
    • Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
    • Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
    • Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
    • Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
    • Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
    • Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
    • Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
    • Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
    • Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
    • Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
    • Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.


    Passing the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement [[USMCA) that will bring relief and business to the American farmer.
    • Passing 12 weeks of paid family leave for federal workers. An initiative that Ivanka Trump has been advocating for since Day One. And on a personal level, one that NO LESS than 10 career HUD employees thankedme for in private - with some even admitting they may vote for him in 2020.
    • Reaching an historic trade deal with China that lifts the unfair tariff burden off the American tax-payer that the LAST THREE PRESIDENTS had no problem paying for DECADES.
    • Getting Space Force
    • Requiring Hospitals to publicly disclose the costs charged and paid by ALL insurance companies to ensure transparency and fair competition.
    • Making animal cruelty a FEDERAL FELONY, praised by the American Humane Society as a bill they’ve been trying to pass for DECADES
    • Forcing delinquent foreign countries to contribute an additional $530 BILLION to NATO so that Americans are no longer bearing the global burden
    • Expanding federal civil rights protections against anti-semitism, which was duly praised by the President of the Anti-Defamation League

    Ooooo Trump is a bad man because he was not an expert on the corona virus when nobody else in the world was but me on the internet.

    Everybody is an expert on how to run a country,and those who do not agree with them,there is a word for them out there somewhere.

    Looks to me like while some have spent 3.5 years on failure after failure others have been getting things done.

    Where have y’all’s hero’s been for the last 40 years in power and what the hell have they been doing for the country?

    They all have been there for a combined power of over 200 years and they could not even get a simple new baby leave for women in the workplace.

    And people wonder why the inner cities are in the same shit as 50 years ago,because it is everybody else that has the screwed up mindset and we like it that way.

    Like they say actions speak louder then words and the one thing people will not forget is the one that actually did what the others could not do.

    Besides nobody likes a failure and there is a solid track record of 3.5 years of failures and it not with Trump.

    So keep obsessing with words while taking zero context in,it worked so well in 2016,one would figure by now that it would sink in that it is a losing path to go down but 50 years of destroyed and burning cities prove that people are comfortable with that,because it gives them something to complain about,when they cannot find something to complain about they will make it up as they go along.

    Last edited by Richard; August-03-20 at 11:07 PM.

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    Wow. As rants go Richard that is a pretty good one.

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    ^^^ Yeah considering I meant 'rabid' relative to being a detractor as well. Hah! Not just as an advocate. I'm neither extreme and yet still see the problems.

    I don't even find Trump to be the epitome of all evil and failures as some do but some of his comments/ response re. the COVID have been unfortunate. A is A.

    To say the least. Beyond what people 'make up'.
    Last edited by Zacha341; August-04-20 at 04:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cincinnati_Kid View Post
    He shouldn't even mildly suggest for his people whom he's suppose to govern and lead, to ingest ANYTHING !! It's amazing to me how some people will defend this psycho to their graves.
    It's a good thing he never did that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    HE SAID DISINFECTANT FOR THE 10TH TIME. BLEACH, DISINFECTANT DOESN'T MATTER, HE'S NOT A SCIENTIST AND SHOULD NOT BE THROWING OUT SUCH INSANE SUGGESTIONS......LMAO. In case you're hard of hearing from the video that has been posted multiple times, here's the full transcript............

    "And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that. So you're going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me, so we'll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it goes in one minute, that's pretty powerful."
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...nscript-2020-4
    Ah, so then Trump did not say "Bleach" and the title of your article claimed. The title of your article was,

    "That Time Everyone Tried To Defend Injecting Bleach"

    Actually, you didn't present the full transcript either. I opened your link and in the same paragraph, Trump was twice rambling on about the possibility of light [[twice) or some sort of injection that could treat Covid-19 but there was not one mention of "bleach". Neither courts of law nor science would allow sloppily substituting the word "bleach" for "disinfectant" as your video's title did.

    Radiation is a form of light and penicillin like injections are used to suppress diseases. Trump could, however, be criticized for using the word 'disinfectant' because disinfectants are usually, but not always, used on inanimate objects to kill viruses. Had he said 'antiviral drugs' instead of 'disinfectant', then at least his rabid enemies would have been less likely to pretend that he implied "bleach".

    "Is there a way you can do something like that" is a question and not a suggestion that anyone be injected with bleach. "It'd be interesting to check that further suggests that Trump was asking questions to be investigated. Even Republican presidents should be allowed to ask questions. Neither of the italicized quotes were directed at consumers. They were questions floated to the medical research community. It is absurd, disingenuous, and even evil to suggest that Trump recommended that anyone be injected with 'bleach' as your video title suggested. This is an good example of a lie perpetuated by the left.

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    Had he said 'antiviral drugs' instead of 'disinfectant', then at least his rabid enemies would have been less likely to pretend that he implied "bleach".
    Gee...and in a perfect 'Trump World' the FDA and Lysol wouldn't have had to publish an immediate disclaimer for misinterpreting his comments the entire nation saw and heard. I suppose in your strange reality his effort to hold an upside down bible has to mean he prays on a nightly basis, and invisible sky people are truly on his side.

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    ^^^ Yep. At minimum, the rambling, imprecise statements presented enough ambiguity [[still being debated) they had to get ahead of per the disclaimers.
    Last edited by Zacha341; August-04-20 at 10:23 AM.

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